Even an ordinary man, uneducated villager, he believes in the next birth.

Samsara - the circle of birth and death

Here even an ordinary man, a cultivator, uneducated villager,
he believes in the next birth. He believes. He’s afraid of committing sin-

Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam  1.8.42
Māyāpura, October 22, 1974

Then he dropped into this ocean of material existence. Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura has sung, anādi karama-phale, paḍi’ bhavārṇava-jale. Anādi. Ādi means the beginning of creation, and anādi means before that. This creation, this material world, it is created and annihilated, as is the nature of anything material. We have got experience from our body, or any body. Everything here is created and annihilated. Even big, big empires like the Roman Empire, the Carthagian Empire, the Moghul Empire, and so many empires—they came, and they were annihilated. This is the nature. Therefore Vidyāpati has sung, kata caturānanam, mari mari yavat, na tuyā ādi avasana. Caturānana means the Brahmā. Brahmā, his life, duration of life, is very, very long. We know from Bhagavad-gītā that sahasra-yuga-paryantam ahar yad brahmaṇo viduḥ [Bg. 8.17]. He’s not also immortal. He’s mortal. Although his one day is equal to our forty-three lakhs of years multiplied by one thousand, but still, he’s not immortal. When Hiraṇyakaśipu pleased Brahmā and he wanted to give him the benediction, so Hiraṇyakaśipu wanted that “Please make me immortal.” So Brahmā said, “That is not possible because I am, myself, is not immortal.”

So nobody is immortal within this material world. And still, we are attached. We want to be immortal. That is the psychology. Just like last night, when the snake… We became disturbed. Why this psychology? Because we don’t want to be dead, because we are eternal. Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre [Bg. 2.20]. Neither we wish to take the trouble of being changed of the body. Otherwise why we became disturbed? We know… Others may not know that we shall not be killed, even bitten by the snake. Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre [Bg. 2.20]. So why we became disturbed? What is the psychology? The basic principle is that we don’t want to be killed. We don’t want to change the body even. We have got attraction for the body. Even an animal or insect, living very wretched condition of life, still, if you want to kill it, it will protest. It will protest, “No, no. I don’t want to be killed.” This is the psychology.

So the, our real business is how to attain that eternal life. That is real business. Other business, they are not important. Tasyaiva hetoḥ prayateta kovido na labhyate yad bhramatām upary adhaḥ [1.5.18]. This is the instruction, that we should try how to become again immortal. We are immortal by nature, but we have covered by another nature, external nature, bahiraṅga-śakti And because we have been entangled with this material body, we have to die. Otherwise there is no death. Na jāyate na mriyate vā. The living entity does not take birth, neither it dies. Then why we are taking birth and dying? The…, this question does not arise to the fools and rascals of this materialist world. I was talking with one very big man in London, Lord Fenner-Brockway. He came to see me. So I asked him this question. He was old man. He was a, I think, older than me. He was eighty-four. So he said, “Yes, I’ll die peacefully.” You see? This question does not bother even any man. And I talked with that Professor Kotovsky in Moscow. He also said, “Swamiji, after death, everything is finished.” You see? Big, big men in Europe, very exalted position, they do not know even that there is life after death. They do not know. And in India, I think, when I spoke in Calcutta, the American Consulate… There is a club, Indo-American Cultural. They invited. So they gave me the subject matter for speaking: “East and West.” So in that meeting I said that “We don’t make any such distinction, ‘East’ and ‘West.’ Because everything belongs to Kṛṣṇa. But there is little difference between East and West. What is that difference? Here even an ordinary man, a cultivator, uneducated villager, he believes in the next birth. He believes. He’s afraid of committing sin-‘Oh, I’ll have to suffer in my next life.” And in the Western world, the big, big men like Lord Fenner-Brockway and Professor Kotovsky, they do not know that there is life after death.”

Formerly, the advanced condition
was considered to be in the mode of goodness

BG 14.7-The mode of passion is born of unlimited desires and longings, O son of Kunti, and because of this one is bound to material fruitive activities.

PURPORT-The mode of passion is characterized by the attraction between man and woman. Woman has attraction for man, and man has attraction for woman. This is called the mode of passion. And, when the mode of passion is increased, one develops the hankering for material enjoyment. He wants to enjoy sense gratification. For sense gratification, a man in the mode of passion wants some honor in society, or in the nation, and he wants to have a happy family, with nice children, wife, and house. These are the products of the mode of passion. As long as one is hankering after these things, he has to work very hard. Therefore it is clearly stated here that he becomes associated with the fruits of his activities and thus becomes bound by such activities. In order to please his wife, children and society and to keep up his prestige, one has to work. Therefore, the whole material world is more or less in the mode of passion. Modern civilization is considered to be advanced in the standards of the mode of passion. Formerly, the advanced condition was considered to be in the mode of goodness. If there is no liberation for those in the mode of goodness, what of those who are entangled in the mode of passion?

OK-Now what is the condition of one who is NOT affected by the three modes of material nature? And do we need to acquire all these BEFORE we can go back to Godhead? Lets take a further look into this chapter of BG.

BG 14.22-25–TRANSLATION–The Blessed Lord said: He who does not hate illumination, attachment and delusion when they are present, nor longs for them when they disappear; who is seated like one unconcerned, being situated beyond these material reactions of the modes of nature, who remains firm, knowing that the modes alone are active; who regards alike pleasure and pain, and looks on a clod, a stone and a piece of gold with an equal eye; who is wise and holds praise and blame to be the same; who is unchanged in honor and dishonor, who treats friend and foe alike, who has abandoned all fruitive undertakings-such a man is said to have transcended the modes of nature.

Seems like a very high list of things we must accomplish, doesn’t it? Is this even possible for us in this kali yuga or is this just Srila Prabhupadas wishful thinking for his followers? He mentions previously , in his preface to his BG that….

…”We hope, therefore, that people will derive the greatest benefit by studying Bhagavad-gita As It Is as we have presented it here, and if even one man becomes a pure devotee of the Lord we shall consider our attempt a success. [signed] A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami  12 May 1971 Sydney, Australia

BG 7.3-TRANSLATION-Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.

Seems like a mountain we all have to climb doesn’t it? And yet Srila Prabhupada did write and more than once, that some of his disciples were pure devotees of the Lord. How is this possible? Pure devotee means no more birth and death, going back to Godhead.

Letter to Tusta Krsna Dec 14 1972.All of my disciples are pure devotees. Anyone sincerely serving the spiritual master is a pure devotee, it may be Siddhasvarupa or others, a-Siddhasvarupa. This must be very clearly stated. It is not only that your Siddhasvarupa is a pure devotee and not others. Do not try to make a faction.

letter Madhudvisa Dec 29 1972….Recently, I had sent one letter to reply Tusta Krsna’s questions about Siddha Svarupa, namely, that Siddha Svarupa may be pure devotee, but so all of you are also pure devotees. There is no question that Siddha Svarupa is only pure devotee and no one else is pure devotee. All of my disciples, as soon as they surrender themselves to Krsna, they become pure devotees actually.

SB 3.29.8 purport...To act under the direction of a bona fide spiritual master with a motive to satisfy the Supreme Personality of Godhead is pure devotional service. But if one has a motive for personal sense gratification, his devotional service is manifested differently. Such a man may be violent, proud, envious and angry, and his interests are separate from the Lord’s.

Some Conclusions-So we can see from the above BG verses and the words of Krsna’s bona fide representative that the royal road to hell is set with so many “good intentions” and the road back to Godhead is set only with sincere devotees who want ONLY to please Krsnas bona fide representative, Srila Prabhupada. That is the guarantee  that is ironclad perfect.

We also can understand that from one line in the above purport of BG 14.7, Srila Prabhupada tells us that even though now the present condition of the world, many devotees included, is one of passion and ignorance predominantly. But formerly the advanced condition was mode of goodness. Therefore Prabhupada wanted and probably insisted would be a better word that his followers try to live in the rural settings by growing their own food, taking care of cows, etc, and living basically a much more simple lifestyle. That mode of living is mode of goodness by its very nature and makes spiritual life much more conducive for advancement than any city life we now find all over the world. And this mode of living, mode of goodness, he tells us WAS the formerly advanced condition-not what we see everywhere today. So we do what we can to try and evolve our consciousness upwards toward God-Krsna by trying for this type of lifestyle . As the saying goes God helps those who help themselves and SP said once this means we put ourselves into a more surrendered condition of life.

Comments

  1. Pamho agtacbsp, it’s the strangest experience to be in this material world in saguna physical elements incarnated in a material body and forced to act under the three gunas of this material world I mean one is forced to behave compare to his guna quality and karma action and reactions because of his previous karma and unless one believe and not believe to the law of karma, the karma take action and it’s perfect because of KRSNA DESIRE,for example to sin is against our spiritual nature therefore one is scare to sin but one can’t avoid to sin in the material world especially if one is incarnated in a physical form under the three gunas in kali yuga but we got a proper medicine (MMHK)and by taking it everyday we become immune to the sin I mean by the special mercy of SSGG we can avoid the sin through the knowledge we get in chanting the holy name of liberation. Agtacbsp ys haribol

  2. Bhagavad-gītā 2.1-11

    Johannesburg, October 17, 1975

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    Now, Kṛṣṇa took the position of guru, and He began to instruct. Tam uvāca hṛṣīkeśaḥ. Hṛṣīkeśa…, Kṛṣṇa’s another name is Hṛṣīkeśa. Hṛṣīkeśa means hṛṣīka īśa. Hṛṣīka means the senses, and īśa, the master. Therefore Kṛṣṇa is the master of our senses, everyone’s senses. That will be explained in the Thirteenth Chapter, that kṣetra-jñaṁ cāpi māṁviddhi sarva-kṣetreṣu bhārata [Bg. 13.3]. In this body there are two living entities. One is myself, the individual soul, ātmā; and the other is Kṛṣṇa, Paramātmā. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe arjuna tiṣṭhati [Bg. 18.61]. So actually the proprietor is Paramātmā. I am given the chance to use it, so my senses, so-called my senses, that is not my senses. I have not created my hand. The hand is created by God, or by Kṛṣṇa, through the agency of this material nature, and I am given the hand to use it for my purpose, for my eating, for my collecting. But actually it is not my hand. Otherwise, when this hand becomes paralyzed, I am claiming, “my hand”—I cannot use it because the power of the hand is withdrawn by the proprietor. Just like in a house, rented house, you are living. If the proprietor of the house, landlord, eject you, you cannot live there. You cannot use it. Similarly, we can use this body as long as the real proprietor of the body, Hṛṣīkeśa, allows me to stay here. Therefore Kṛṣṇa’s name is Hṛṣīkeśa. And this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means that we have accepted the senses from Kṛṣṇa. It should be used for Kṛṣṇa. Instead of using it for Kṛṣṇa, we are using it for our sense gratification. This is our miserable condition of life. Just like you are living in a place for which you have to pay rent, but if you don’t pay rent—you think that it is your property—then there is trouble. Similarly, Hṛṣīkeśa means the real proprietor is Kṛṣṇa. I have been given this property. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā.

    īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ
    hṛd-deśe ‘rjuna tiṣṭhati
    bhrāmayan sarva-bhūtāni
    yantrārūḍhāni māyayā
    [Bg. 18.61]

    Yantra: it is a machine. This machine has been given by Kṛṣṇa to me because I desired that “If I get a machine like a human body, then I can enjoy like this.” So Kṛṣṇa fulfills your desire: “All right.” And if I think, “If I get a machine in which I can directly suck blood of other animal,” “All right,” Kṛṣṇa says, “you take the machine of a tiger’s body and use it.” So this is going on. Therefore His name is Hṛṣīkeśa. And when we understand properly that “I am not the proprietor of this body. Kṛṣṇa is the proprietor of the body. I wanted a certain type of body to use it for my sense gratification. He has given it and I am not happy. Therefore I shall learn how to use this machine for the proprietor,” this is called bhakti. Hṛṣīkeṇa hṛṣīkeśa-sevanaṁ bhaktir ucyate [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. Because Kṛṣṇa is the proprietor of the senses—He is the proprietor of this body—so when this body will be utilized for Kṛṣṇa’s service, that is our perfection of life. Hṛṣīkeṇa hṛṣīkeśa-sevanaṁ bhaktir ucyate.

    sarvopādhi-vinirmuktaṁ
    tat-paratvena nirmalam
    hṛṣīkeṇa hṛṣīkeśa-
    sevanaṁ bhaktir ucyate
    [Cc. Madhya 19.170]

    If you want the definition of bhakti, the bhakti means to use the things for the proprietor. That is right use. If somebody use for another purpose, that is misuse. So bhakti means, when things are used properly, that is called bhakti. Now we are thinking that this machine, this body, “I am born in India, so it is Indian machine. It should be utilized for India’s profit.” Another person is thinking, “This machine, it is gotten from America, so it should be used for America.” That is going on in the name of nationality or communism, or society or friendship and this and so on. We have invented so many “isms,” but they are all misuse because actually the machine does not belong to the American or the Indian or the African. The machine belongs to Kṛṣṇa. So this is misuse. So when we understand that we are misusing this machine improperly, that is called pure machine. That is called pure understanding, or Kṛṣṇaconsciousness. Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. “I am not American. I am not Indian. I am not brāhmaṇa. I am not kṣatriya. I am not human being.” Ahaṁ brahmāsmi: “I am Brahman.” Not the Supreme Brahman, but part and parcel of Brahman. Supreme Brahman is Kṛṣṇa, Parabrahman. He is addressed as Parabrahman. So we are part and parcel of Brahman. Therefore we are Brahman. So we have to realize this position. Ahaṁ brahmāsmi: “I am Brahman.” I am not this machine. I am put into this machine, but because the machine is gotten either from America or from India or from heaven or from hell, I am designating this machine as American machine or Indian machine. Actually this machine belongs to Kṛṣṇa, and it should be used for Kṛṣṇa. Therefore the definition of bhakti means hṛṣīkeṇa hṛṣīkeśa-sevanaṁ bhaktir ucyate [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. This is bhakti.

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