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Veganism is crazy
David Hall: Veganism should NEVER be forced on children as they MUST have milk regardless. If there are no Krishna farms then buy local milk. This is what Prabhupada did. Forcing veganism on children is child abuse!!
Labanglalatika dasi: No it is your duty to provide milk from protected cows and not make them drink dirty contaminated commercial milk from abused cows in dairies. that is not even milk. dont cheat in name of so called protein. They need pure milk, Even commercial organic milk is an illusion. If you make them drink dairy milk they will grow up hating milk.
Vegans are crazy. Hare Krishna vegans are even crazier because they should know better. They are so crazy that they have actually convinced themselves that they are superior to their godbrothers/godsisters who simply follow Srila Prabhupada’s instructions and offer dairy products to Krishna that they have purchased from their local grocery store! They are so crazy that they have actually convinced themselves that times have changed, so, therefore, Prabhupada’s instructions no longer apply!
Srila Prabhupada repeatedly forbid us to preach vegetarianism, let alone this new concoction: veganism. The vegan diet is probably the most unhealthy diet ever invented, but time will tell.
Srila Prabhupada: We are not advocate of vegetarianism or nonvegetarianism. No. That is not our business. We are Kṛṣṇa-ites. What Kṛṣṇa said, we have to do. “We don’t advocate vegetarianism or nonvegetarianism. We advocate, “Eat Kṛṣṇa’s prasādam, the remnants of foodstuff which is offered to Kṛṣṇa.”
So we are not eating on the material platform. We are eating on the spiritual platform. Because we are eating, if there is anything sinful, that is Kṛṣṇa’s. We are taking His remnants of foodstuff. So this is our philosophy. And apart from this philosophy, because one living entity is food for another living entity, it does not mean that I shall eat my children also. There is discretion, that human being, they should offer these fruits, vegetables, milk as it is prescribed in the śāstra to God, Kṛṣṇa, and take. That is human civilization, not for the satisfaction of the tongue we have to maintain big, big slaughterhouse and eat them. No, that is not human civilization. The main business of the human society is to understand God, and as soon as he understands God, he understands that every living entity is part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. Then how we can eat? That because Kṛṣṇa eats, Kṛṣṇa allows, then we eat. So responsibility is Kṛṣṇa’s. This is our philosophy. Yes. (More…)
That is the law of nature, that every living being is eating another living being. That is stated in the Vedic śāstra.
ahastāni sahastānām / apadāni catuṣ-padām
phalgūni tatra mahatāṁ / jīvo jīvasya jīvanam
That “Those who have no hands—that means animals—they are food for the animal who has got hands. And those who have no legs, they are food for the four-legged.” Just like grass has no legs, but it is a food fo the cows and the goats. Apadāni catuṣ-padām, phalgūni tatra mahatām: “Then one who is powerful, very powerful…” Just like tiger, he jumps over another animal. So because the other animal is weak and this animal is strong, so in this way, the feeding is going on, one living being for the other. But when you come to the… That is nature. The tiger will never eat grass. But we human being, we eat grass, goat, cows and everything. Because advanced, so-called advanced. But our foodstuff is to accept the remnants of foodstuff which is eaten by Kṛṣṇa. That is our philosophy. Kṛṣṇa-prasāda. Just like in this temple, we don’t eat anything. Neither we eat grass, neither we eat animals. We eat kṛṣṇa-prasāda. So Kṛṣṇa says that “You give Me these foodstuffs.” Patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyaṁ yo me bhaktyā prayacchati [Bg. 9.26].
What mother Labhanga says above is not supported by shastra or Srila Prabhupada, it is PURE speculation. I drank milk purchased from the market for many years when I was growing up and I still love it to this day (I’m now 62 years old). So i’m not sure where she has come up with the outrageous claim of children hating milk purchased from the store. In fact Srila Prabhupada has this to say about store bought milk.
There is a saying in Bengal: “When milk is available in the marketplace, what is the use of keeping a cow?”
Morning Walk with Dr. Patel, January 9, 1977, Bombay
HANSADUTTA: Prabhupada, you gave the example that what is the use of keeping a cow if you can get milk in the marketplace.
PRABHUPADA: Yes, cow-keeping is expensive.
DR. PATEL: Why keep a cow when milk is available.
And here is a very nice pastime of HDG and milk.
Smara Hari , The reason I asked you about the milk in the lota example is that I also have a Prabhupada lota pastime that I witnessed.
In Kolkata temple one evening in early 1974 an older Marwari gentleman with dhoti n kurta came into the temple. he brought with him his cow man dressed in worn vest n hitched up lungi and carrying two large size milk churns full of milk. probably 80 litres in total.
Both men were ushered into Prabhupada’s room and Prabhupada engaged the Marwari in conversation (a business man , a trader , from Marwari district in Rajastan. There is a large community of Marwaris in kolkata. They are pious, are veggie and wordhip Krishna. Whole communities have become our life members in India )
Srila Prabhupada instructed us to bring all the kitchen pots to be filled (small temple of 12 devotees).
There was still more milk.
Prabhupada instructed the devotees to bring their personal drinking cups to be filled.
There was still more milk.
Prabhupada then told us to take the two brass lotus from the two toilets , one from each, to throughly clean them and bring to get filled with milk.
One toilet lota was filled. The other filled to an inch below the rim, with the last of the milk from the second churn.
Srila Prabhupada ended the conversation with the Marwari gentleman . Both men left the building.
Prabhupada then told us to immediately boil all the milk lest it should spoil , and boil it down In the biggest pot to make sweet rice that could be offered at mongal aarti and taken by the devotees at morning prasad.
The devotees queried whether the milk in their personal drinking cups could be used in making the deities’ sweet rice and Prabhupada said “Yes”. The devotees then asked about the toilet lota milk . And Prabhupada confirmed that it should also be used.
He added “When ever anyone offers anything, fully accept it and use it in Krishna’s service and the person will be benefitted. Do not let them walk away with a portion of what they would give. Accept it all.”
So if a devotee buys milk and offers it properly there is no harm, we just have to follow Prabhupadas instuctions that all.
Yhs,Ofs
please where i can associate with devotee through internet? i need it badly. i need to chant, and they help me to do that. Thanks for beautiful readings. Hare Krishna
You have already found a suitable place for association with Srila Prabhupada’s devotees through internet ;> Hare Krishna
Vegans Love Cows!
This commentary was delivered on January 25, 2017
VEGANISM: The Ultimate Lactose Intolerance
What is ice cream?
Like most dessert treats it’s made up of fat and sugar.
Sugar is plant based, but what about fat? Does it have to be of animal origin? Let’s compare coconut ice cream to dairy based ice cream.
Real dairy starts ironically with artificial insemination.
Beyond that there are some unfortunate realities.
For instance:
It will be two years on average before a calf will produce. During this time the young cow will consume enormous amounts of feed, land, and water, all before the first drop of milk is taken.
Nothing against them, but cows are quite needy. Another reality is that to build a herd of five hundred dairy cows, you would need to breed into existence a thousand animals.
You would then have five hundred unwanted male calves, this problem would be remedied by selling the bulls off to the beef industry.
As I was told during my vegetarian years, “the dairy industry IS the beef industry”.
So let’s move on to coconut ice cream. Coconut milk yields a wonderful creamy product, and can be enjoyed immediately after harvest.
It’s cleaner, healthier, less expensive, better for the environment, more humane, and tastes better.
So why are we still following those needy cows around?
I love cows.
I think it’s a tremendous step forward to “wean” oneself from a dependence on their milk.
This is why I became vegan.
I see the cause of animals and that of Veganism to be one and the same.
Any argument against Veganism is an argument against animals..
What are the arguments against Veganism?
In the past five years I haven’t found a single one.
This is why I helped start VegCurious.
Animal agriculture is a game that’s now played mainly by a wealthy few.
The rules of that game run contrary to the laws of nature.
Trust your senses, defining a truth can be difficult, but detecting a lie is easy.
I believe we should all stand for something. I stand for the respect and ethical treatment of others,
Where do you stand?
Thank you
Ray Cooper
VegCurious
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Precious Three-Year-Old Girl Explains to Her Mom Why She Can’t Drink Cow’s Milk Anymore
by Amanda Lindner
Milk has been touted a staple in the American diet for decades, and while milk consumption is considered a cultural norm, few people are actually aware of what happens in order for us to have milk. Even though cows are mammals, just like us, many people don’t even realize that a cow has to give birth to a baby to produce milk! If humans are the ones drinking the milk … then, what happens to the baby? Sadly, these calves are ripped away from their mothers, often within hours or days, of being born and sent to slaughter, while their mothers are hooked up to milking machines. The concept can be a hard one for even adults to grapple with, but sometimes, children have a way of making complicated things seem so simple.
That’s what this adorable three-year-old girl does when she learns the truth about where milk comes from. Her solution? She’s not going to drink cow’s milk anymore. “We can’t… we don’t need to,” she says. Instead of hurting these baby cows by drinking their milk, she’s come up with a better idea: “Let’s go save those cows!” She even enlists her mom to help saying, “We got to hold them together.”
We can’t help but be completely inspired by this little girl and her compassion for animals. And the best part is, she doesn’t have to give up any of her favorite things. Almond, soy, coconut, and so many other non-dairy milks, cheeses are everywhere! Ben & Jerry’s just released four dairy-free flavors … Mmmm. Want to help save cows along with this little girl? Check out how you can change the world for animals and the environment just by changing what’s on your plate, or in your glass.
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Mohandas Gandhi, India’s great apostle of nonviolence, wrote extensively on cow protection:
“The central fact of Hinduism is cow protection… It takes the human being beyond his species. The cow to me means the entire sub-human world. Man through the cow is enjoined to realize his identity with all that lives.
“Cow protection is the gift of Hinduism to the world. And Hinduism will live so long as there are Hindus to protect the cow… Hindus will be judged not by the correct chanting of mantras, not by their pilgrimages, but their ability to protect the cow.
“The cow is a poem of pity. One reads pity in the gentle animal. She is the mother to millions of Indian mankind. Protection of the cow means protection of the whole dumb creation of God. The ancient seer, whoever he was, began with the cow. The appeal of the lower order of creation is all the more forcible because it is speechless.
“…The cow is the purest type of sub-human life. She pleads before us on behalf of the whole of the sub-human species for justice to it at the hands of man, the first among all that lives. She seems to speak to us through her eyes: ‘you are not appointed over us to kill us and eat our flesh or otherwise ill-treat us, but to be our friend and guardian’…
“I worship it and I shall defend its worship against the whole world.
“My religion teaches me that I should by personal conduct instill into the minds of those who might hold different views, the conviction that cow-killing is a sin and that, therefore, it ought to be abandoned.
“Cow protection to me is not mere protection of the cow. It means protection of what lives and is helpless and weak in the world.
“The reader will observe that behind the foregoing requirements lies one thing and that is ahimsa (nonviolence), otherwise known as universal compassion. If that supreme thing is realized, everything else becomes easy. Where there is ahimsa, there is infinite patience, inner calm, discrimination, self-sacrifice and true knowledge.
**”My ambition is to see the principle of cow protection established throughout the world. But that requires that I should set my own house thoroughly in order first.**
“When these primary things are done, it will be found that the Muslims will, of their own accord, recognize the necessity, if only for the sake of their Hindus brethren, of not slaughtering cattle for beef or otherwise…”
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If I demand the Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. cease to kill cows: cease to eat beef, cease to wear leather, etc… tell them that there’s heavy karma in cow-killing, tell them that the collective karma for killing cows is abortion and war…
…they’ll argue that I’m trying to “convert” them, saying only Hindus believe the cow is sacred. And they might ask, what about the killing of other animals: lambs, chicken, pigs, fish, etc.?
If I say in response that killing any animal is a crime: go vegetarian…
…they might ask, what about the cruelty of modern factory farming and the killing of animals in obtaining animal by-products (dairy, eggs, honey, wool, silk, etc.) ?
But if I take a nonsectarian stand in favor of animal rights: animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for “entertainment,” so go vegan, join People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), or any other secular animal rights organization, opt for vegan items on the menu, etc… as social progress for all mankind…
…then they can’t make these kind of accusations!
Check out:
https://www.all-creatures.org/murti/art-hare-krishna-vegan.html
1. I appreciate your open-mindedness and willingness to consider veganism and give veganism a fair hearing. Some devotees regard veganism as a heresy, when they really should be vegan-friendly. The Hare Krishna movement has spearheaded the growth of vegetarianism in the West.
“The International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) has contributed tremendously to the growth of vegetarianism in the U.S. and elsewhere, and for that… it deserves the gratitude and respect of the civilized world.”
–Dr. Alex Hershaft, Farm Animal Reform Movement (FARM)
“The International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) is doing a superb job of letting people know that vegetarian food is healthful, delicious, and pleasing to the eye.”
–Scott Smith, Associate Editor, Vegetarian Times
In his 2004 book, Holy Cow: the Hare Krishna Contribution to Vegetarianism and Animal Rights, when describing the Hare Krishna Food For Life program, Steven Rosen (Satyaraja dasa) quotes Srila Prabhupada as having said:
“To distribute prasadam (sanctified vegetarian food offered to the Lord) to millions of hungry people hankering for spiritual emancipation. This is the mission of the Krishna consciousness movement.” (Srimad Bhagavatam 1.13.9 purport)
According to Steven Rosen, A Nigerian radio station compared the Hare Krishna Food For Life program with “the second coming of Jesus, because just as he fed the masses, so the Hare Krishnas were feeding thousands of people.”
2. Veganism is merely a slight disagreement with Srila Prabhupada’s teachings.
In the mid-’80s, Vaishnavas, devotees or worshippers of Lord Vishnu (or Krishna, who is considered the eighth incarnation of Vishnu), members of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) joined forces with animal activists in Italy, circulating petitions for a ban on hunting!
When the Smith’s album Meat Is Murder was climbing the charts in England, the ISKCON World Review reported it, saying, “Hit Song Blasts Cow Slaughter.”
An initiated (ordained) woman in our clergy wrote an editorial in the ISKCON World Review around that time: “Animal Rights: the Answer to a Vaishnava’s Prayer.”
The animal rights video “We Are All Noah” (animal rights activists courting the religious community for inspiration, blessings, and support) was shown in Krishna temples as well, even though (as you can guess from the title) the video was clearly aimed at members of the Abrahamic faiths… rather than trying to convince Hindus to become strictly vegan (instead of lacto-vegetarian), because of the cruelty of the dairy industry.
At a cruelty-free Thanksgiving at a Krishna temple around 1986-88, a turkey was served… literally! The guest of honor was a live turkey, a living turkey named Jiva, and Jiva was fed part of the Thanksgiving feast!
And Govinda’s Restaurant in San Diego, CA served as a regular meeting place for members of San Diego Animal Advocates. Dhruva dasa, a bramachari or Hindu monk, spoke favorably of Sally Mackler for having singlehandedly started San Diego Animal Advocates.
In the late ’80s, San Diego Animal Advocates (a chapter of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA, before they dissolved the chapter system for legal purposes) had a booth at Koby’s Swap Meet (a kind of flea market). We had volunteers staffing a booth, selling t-shirts, buttons, and bumper stickers with pro-animal and pro-environmental messages or logos. We had petitions to sign and graphic photos of animals being experimented upon, etc.
Kids would come by, and ask smart-alec questions, like, “Are the donations *really* going to help animals?” or make references to the Smiths’ album Meat Is Murder.
If there were any couples passing by, it was always the women, moved by the sight of animal cruelty, who would respond, and come over to sign petitions, purchase animal paraphernalia, etc., while the men tried to act tough, as if they weren’t affected by the graphic photos.
In the late ’80s, Vegetarian Times reported that women are five times as likely than men to go vegetarian.
When the secular animal rights movement started making headlines in the 1980s, Krishna devotees took it as a sign that their book distribution, mission, and preaching were influencing mainstream secular American society.
In the mid-’00s, a member of Food Not Bombs, which distributes vegan food to the homeless, attended a Sunday Feast at ISKCON Berkeley and referred to ISKCON as “a wonderful organization.”
And as recently as the end of 2007, when Mother Malati Devi visited the Berkeley Krishna temple, she spoke favorably of the vegans, the animal activists, saying, “These are our friends.”
At the very least, we should have vegan options available at the Sunday Feasts for them, and allow them to use our temples as meeting places!
In the 2006 edition of the Higher Taste vegetarian cookbook, there are 72 recipes.
19 are vegan; 53 have dairy products in them.
When we distributed free copies of The Higher Taste (the 2006 edition) at the World Vegetarian Festival in San Francisco in years past, many people would ask us if it is a vegan cookbook.
“Vegan-friendly!” we would tell them!
There are a significant number of vegan recipes, and simple substitutions (e.g., olive oil in place of butter or ghee) can be made to make the recipes vegan.
The Introduction to the 2006 edition of The Higher Taste acknowledges vegans and itself as a vegan-friendly cookbook:
“The editors are pleased to provide you here with an improved edition with all-new recipes, including elegant vegan choices and a number of reduced-fat or low-fat recipes.”
The 2006 edition of The Higher Taste is the most progressive book we’ve got, as it touches on mad cow disease, factory farming, and global warming, all of which were absent in the 1983 edition.
But like the 1983 edition, the 2006 edition fails to mention that Leonardo Da Vinci was a vegan and not merely vegetarian, and that the ancient Egyptian priests who were vegetarian to help them with their vows of celibacy were vegan, and that they referred to eggs AND milk as “liquid flesh.”
The 2006 edition of The Higher Taste: A Guide to Gourmet Vegetarian Cooking and a Karma-Free Diet has an entire chapter on “Factory Farming and Compassion” and subsequent sections on “Indian Philosophy and Nonviolence”; “The Equality of All Living Things”; and “Do Unto Others…”
3. Krishna’s Diet is Bhakti (Devotion)
Q & A with Swami B. V. Tripurari
Thursday, April 22, 2005
Does one have to drink milk or offer milk to Krishna to be a devotee?
Q. I’m a vegan so I don’t eat any animal products. I question the need to offer milk products to Krishna because of the horrendous things modern factory farming does to cows in order to make them produce more milk. Most of the milk served today comes from these farms where cows are slaughtered when their milk production diminishes. Considering this, it seems to me that it would be better if devotees did not support the factory farming system by using milk products. My question is does one have to drink milk or offer milk to Krishna to be a devotee?
A. Scripture says that Krishna is fond of milk products. Still, one does not have to drink milk or offer milk to Krishna to be a devotee. Bhagavad-gita says, patram puspam phalam toyam, that if one offers to Krishna with devotion a leaf, flower, water, or fruit, then he will accept it. The main ingredient mentioned in this verse is devotion, bhaktya prayacchati. It is the bhakti (devotion) in the offering that satisfies Krishna. Therefore, if someone refrains from offering milk to Krishna because of conscientious objections over inhumane dairy farming methods, there is no harm.
I do feel that whenever possible devotees should avoid buying milk from companies that grossly mistreat cows, even if milk from more humane companies is costlier. Here at Audarya our cows provide all of our milk products. Fortunate are those who can alter their lifestyles to have the same situation. Otherwise, one does not need to offer and consume milk to practice devotional service. A person can be vegan and still be a devotee of Krishna, but he or she should aspire to be a bhakta (devotee) first and foremost, and a vegan, vegetarian, fruitarian, or whatever second. A bhakta (devotee) is a person who values devotion above all else.
4. “Devamrita Swami goes Vegan”:
–BY: BHAKTA JARED.
May 07, 2009. AUSTRALIA (SUN) — “All the Yoga centres in Australia which are run by His Holiness Devamrita Swami have banned the use of cow’s milk. They are very proud to declare that their centres are totally vegan.
“They feel compassionate towards cows… The new mantra in these Yoga centres is “Be Vegan not Vegetarian”.
“Hare Krsna,”
-bhakta Jared
Australia
5. But Mahalakshmi commented in 2011:
“Honestly, I don’t know bhakta Jared or where he is based. I also don’t like that this young devotee is making a public statement about Devamrta Swami ‘banning cows milk’.
“I think what bhakta Jared has said could be misleading.
“I personally did not know that any centers in Australia were vegan.
“I do know that the preaching centers in Auckland and Wellington, New Zealand are vegan. It seemed that the change to vegan prasadam was to accomodate the growing number of vegan people living in New Zealand. As far as I am aware Devamrta Swami is not a vegan himself.
“But he decided that because some New Zealand people are concerned about animal cruelty, his preaching centers would not serve commercial dairy products. He does hope that in the future there will be milk provided by protected cows which can be served in these centers.
“I have heard that some Devamrta Swami followers in New Zealand have become strict vegans, but I have only heard this secondhand.
“I hope that I have been helpful.”
6. Yogindra-vandana dasa, temple president of New Talavan farm community in Mississippi, sent me the following e-mail about Bir Krishna Goswami:
“I don’t agree that everyone in this movement has to do the same thing……I protect cows on a most practical level and I am not vegan. Bir Krishna preaches about cow protection but we (New Talavan) are probably the only temple in his zone that protects cows. He is vegan for preaching purposes. You’re right we cannot be hypocritical. We drink cows milk because it is the miracle food substance… nor will we ever support animal slaughter; but we must be practical about diet. Most people in cities cannot find milk from a non-slaughted herd. Offer the cow to Lord Krishna and do not buy more then required and preach……”
-Yogindra
7. Tim Whitley responded favorably when I posted “Should Hindus Be Vegan?” on the worldvegansociety email list out of New Zealand in 2013:
“Thanks for posting this… There is a lot of pressure on the Hare Krishnas now to become vegan.. Some of their restaurants have already made the transition and are now completely Vegan…”
8. Krishna is known as “Govinda” friend of the cows, and as “Gopala” a cowherd. Mother Nischala dasi in Australia, sympathetic to veganism, writes:
“What hypocrisy it is to call out ‘jaya Govinda’ and yet support the killing of the innocent creatures which He loves most of all. Krishna loves cows so that His planet is called Goloka Vrindavan. As we would not allow the destruction of a forest of sacred tulsi bushes (Vrinda), we should not allow the destruction of a herd of dairy cows through modern methods of exploitation for milk, followed by meat. At the very least we should not support it. We should not view vegans as a threat or even as outsiders, as they are pleasing Govinda in their own way, and may even be more pleasing to Him than we who call on His name without integrity of action.”
9. Jennifer Marigold similarly writes:
“And Srila Narayana also said that (factory farmed) milk produced in the conventional grocery store is ‘like meat. We should not take it.’ Bhakti Yoga, “Yoga for Peace,” p.14
“Unless one can purchase guaranteed ahimsa (nonviolent) milk one should be a vegan. But irrespective of that Vaishnavas (devotees of Lord Vishnu, or Krishna) should be aware that vegans are potential sympathizers and not the enemy. I went vegetarian in 1977 after getting interested in Krishna Consciousness and receiving a Back to Godhead from Bhaktivedanta Manor. Then in 1981 I read about the cruelty in the dairy industry and went vegan, however I didn’t realize how much criticism I would get from devotees for this.
“Once I was stopped in the street by a devotee selling books who attacked me verbally (unprovoked) because I was wearing a vegan badge! Then I started to realize that many devotees did not approve of my dietary choices which cumulated in an all out argument in the street with a devotee who told me that I could not be a vegan and a devotee so I gave up being a devotee for nineteen years.
“In 2002 I came back determined to try the advice of Srila Prabhupada who said that if you had problems you should just chant. I have been doing this since and as part of this I have discovered that Vaishnavism is not anti-vegan and as I don’t have home Deities not a conflict – in fact you could list diets as a) meat eating – not acceptable, b) lacto-ovo vegetarian , better but also not acceptable, c) conventional lacto-vegetarian acceptable (questionable?), d) vegan – better than other options, excepting e) lacto-vegetarian but only using ahimsa (nonviolent) milk.
“I was recently asked by a devotee if as a vegan I would take ahimsa (nonviolent) milk. I answered no as I see no point – I’m happy been a vegan and healthy and I have no taste for milk. Also as there is such a short supply what would be gained by my drinking of it.”
“Yours for a truly Vaishnava world where all animals are treated with respect.”
Vasu Murti says ; “Vegans Love Cows! “.
It seems that Vasu Murti dasa became Vegan on account of the source of the production of the Cow’s Milk commercially as it is produced.
If it is so, then, Srila Prabhupada says that all of us must develop a land and a Cow to take care of our maintenance of the body and the Soul.
Meantime, if we are not able to do so, then, we should make the best choice of the bad bargain close to the natural Biological produce including Cow Milk.
Where is the need to create any controversy for unnecessarily ( unproductive ) arguments ?
NO OFFENSE TO ANY READERS PLEASE.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Krishna Likes to be offered butter, milk, sandesh, panir, yoghurt, cream, honey, etc etc. Srila Prabhupada did not say that we should become vegan! (although many foods which we offer are plant based). The SAME SYSTEM of milk production was practiced when Srila Prabhupada was present in his vapu form.
The Vegan Movement and The Environmental Movement HAVE BEEN HIJACKED FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES! (like everything else!). PETA is a mundane political movement and big promoters of the “CO2 Global Warming Myth” which is the introduction to Agenda 21 which wants to do away with private ownership of land so that very large corporations will completely control the food supply, driving small farmers into high density city apartments. PETA also promotes BEYOND BURGERS which is all controlled by Illuminati Eugenicist Bill Gates, who is a shareholder and promoter of GMO corporations. They want to control food production so they can introduce GMO and reduce the population of the world by 90% ……..THIS MEANS MASS STARVATION AND/OR MASS STERILIZATION (the 3rd generation of rats fed of GMO “food” become sterile!)
We offer and (honor prasadam) which Lord Krishna desires and follow instructions of Srila Prabhupada in these matters (Vikarmi’s will kill cows and calves regardless of whether we drink milk or not!).
We should not be interested in the opinions of rascals and fools such as homosex traitor Gandhi or FISKCON retards and halfwits such as Devamrita (Dave’s not here!), Malati, or Bir Krishna!
Haribol
see long term effects of vegan diet after 10 years.
vegan diet is a starvation/malnutrition diet!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reO6BJ3bPtA
Ys
Animals such as Hyenas, lions etc (shown in the video clip) eat practically everything and in the case of hyenas the bones as well (as Mukunda Prabhu was narrating) this is because they have the suitable body, with powerful jaws that can crush very large bones. These meat eating carnivores do not like the taste of ‘smaller’ carnivores and will only eat them at a very last resort preferring herbivores to eat as the first thing they eat is the viscera (intestines). They eat also the stomach contents (semi-digested plant matter) and this contains nitrilocides which is good for their health and stops them from getting cancer so this is what these dumb ‘raw meat’ eaters should do, this is why carnivorous animals kept in zoos have a high incidence of cancer (as their keepers are only feeding them the meat and not the viscera (and contents).
Veganism is most popular for the disciples of Lillith (lesbians), but as Srila Prabhupada has stated illicit and deviant sexual practices are the most sinful of activities, much more sinful than the eating of meat!
The Deep State Cabal will promote ANYTHING WHICH IS ‘OUTSIDE’ VEDIC CULTURE AND THIS IS BEING PROMOTED BY THEM TO DESTROY FARMERS AND INCREASE FACTORY PRODUCED “FOOD” (LIKE VEGAN PLANT BASED “BEYOND MEAT”) TO PUSH FARMERS OFF THE LAND AND INTO URBAN DEVELOPMENTS. This is already happening as dairy farms are closing down at a rapid rate and the land is being bought for “fire sale” prices by the Deep State Cabal….this is a wake-up call folks! this is Agenda 21.