Satsvarupa: “I have come to realise my participation in a grave error. I have allowed myself to be worshiped and regarded on the level of maha-bhagavata paramahamsa, far above my “non-guru” God brothers. As a result, I have slighted and offended my Godbrothers -and Srila Prabhupada- in various ways. And I have mistrained my disciples in these matters.” (Guru Reform Notebook)
DEVIATIONS OF THE GURU REFORM NOTEBOOK
Satsvarupa’s “Guru Reform Book” is actually more dangerous than his obvious miss characterization of a pure devotee, because of its philosophical deviation, perverted ideology and bogus siddhanta.
While we have to give credit to Satsvarupa’s personal reform, his GURU REFORM NOTEBOOK is a total contradiction of Vaishnava philosophy, because it advocates that “BAD GURUS” and/or “FALLEN ACARYAS” (such as in Iskcon) can be reformed. It thus creates a bogus guru system with a perverted ideology and bogus siddhanta.
But Srila Prabhupada states quite the opposite:
Reporter: But the bad gurus…
Srila Prabhupada: And what is a “bad” guru?
Reporter: A bad guru just wants some money or some fame.
Srila Prabhupada: Well, if he is bad, how can he become a guru? [Laughter.] How can iron become gold? Actually, a guru cannot be bad, for if someone is bad, he cannot be a guru. You cannot say “bad guru.” That is a contradiction. What you have to do is simply try to understand what a genuine guru is. […] A guru cannot be bad. There is no question of a bad guru […] Guru means “genuine guru.” (Srila Prabhupada interview with The Times, London, The Science of Self-Realization)
From Srila Prabhupada’s books we understand that ‘guru’ is synonymous with ‘pure devotee’ i.e. Guru never falls. Nobody in ISKCON during Srila Prabhupadas time even dreamt of a philosophy that accommodated the idea of a “guru falling down” or fallen gurus who have reformed?
“Which previous gurus or acharyas in the disciplic succession had to be ‘reformed’? Which previous acharyas were fallen or ‘voted in’ at all? Which previous acharyas were voted in with a known homosexual,” and so on and so forth?
This it self shows how badly Satsvarupa has not understood the siddhanta, otherwise he would not have advised a “guru reform” if he knew that gurus do not need reform? For that matter, sincere neophytes also do not need to be “reformed” from illicit sex, drugs and crimes like NM’s acharyas need to be rectified from? Which previous acharyas needed reform for deviations? Why does Satsvarupa think that acharyas are less advanced than the neophytes? Only a dull person in the mode of ignorance will accept that someone was a fake mahabhagavat guru, admitted his pretense, but still went on continuing being guru.
The fact that such lack of knowledge still remains today is evidenced by the necessity of a “Guru Reform Notebook” which, in and of itself, wrongly suggests that a guru is ignorant. However a true guru, uttama-adhikari is fixed and as stated by Srila Prabhupada: “One should not become a spiritual master unless he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikari.”
So this is the first problem with Satsvarupa and his GURU REFORM NOTEBOOK, he helped the GBC’s promote the idea that their acharyas need “reform” and he thus helped the GBC’s contrive a whole convoluted system of — guru reform, guru suspension, guru monitoring, guru voting, guru rectification, guru removal, and even — gurus sometimes being demons and etc. None of this was mentioned by Srila Prabhupada.
This offensive attack on the guru-parampara is a continued pattern in Iskcon. The notion that “Krishna’s pure guru successors are subject to contamination” (and fall-downs) has expanded in the “living guru” project. For example, a “living guru” based in eastern India, lectured in January 1990, that sometimes, for a few minutes, Krishna’s great successor gurus, such as Lord Brahma, become bewildered by maha-maya (mundane illusion). [Read More…]
GURU REFORM NOTEBOOK
Satsvarūpa dāsa Goswami
“Every disciple must consider himself completely unaware of the science of Kṛṣṇa and must always be ready to carry out the orders of the spiritual master to become competent in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. A disciple should always remain a fool before his spiritual master.”
—from the Bhaktivedanta purports to Caitanya-caritāmrta, Ādi-lilā, 7.72
1 • GURU REFORM NOTEBOOK
2 • QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
3 • APPENDIX AN EXCERPT
4 • FROM MĀDHURYA-KĀDAMBINĪ
This is one man’s confession and public apology. In Harināma Cintāmani, by Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, public confession is recommended to counteract offenses against the holy name. For example, if one commits the offense of interpreting the holy name, Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura advises:
He should humbly go before an assembly of Vaiṣṇavas who engage in discussions about Kṛṣṇa and reveal his offenses at their feet, begging sincerely forgiveness. The devotees of the Lord, conversant with all the glories of the holy name, will mercifully forgive him and embrace him. The offense of interpreting or concocting will not occur again.
Similarly, while discussing what to do to be forgiven for the offense of giving the name to the unfaithful, Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura writes as follows:
if by misfortune or accident a guru gives the name and instructions to a faithless person, he should have great fear. He should confess in front of a Vaiṣṇava assembly and give up that disciple. If the guru does not do this, he himself by the offense will become devoid of bhakti, worthless, wandering in illusion.
My intention is not to accuse others of misdeeds, but mostly to point out my own. In the name of reform, I do not want to commit further offenses by criticizing Vaiṣṇava spiritual masters. If by my statements anyone is offended, I beg their forgiveness. We may each present our realizations, based on the authority of guru, śāstra, and sādhu, and then we may decide together what is right and what should be done.
Speaking for myself, I desire to express my wrongs and take right action. Recently, by association with my Godbrothers in Vṛndāvana-dhāma during the month of Kārttika, I have come to realize my participation in a grave error. Since Śrīla Prabhupāda’s disappearance, I have allowed myself to be worshiped and regarded on the level of a mahā-bhāgavata paramahaṁsa, far above my “non-guru” Godbrothers. As a result, I have slighted and offended my Godbrothers—and Śrīla Prabhupāda—in various ways. And I have mistrained my disciples in these matters.
For years, while I was not aware of these mistakes, I thought my critics were my enemies. Now I see them as my friends. I am hopeful to regain the approval of ISKCON Vaiṣṇavas and join with them to rid ISKCON of false ego and the quest for power, wherever it may appear. I have barely begun my “guru reform,” but I think this is the right direction. Only now do I get an inkling of the meaning of Prabhupāda’s words, “Your love for me will be shown by how much you cooperate to keep this institution together after I am gone.” [Read More…]
Prabhupada, April 20, 1973, Los Angeles: […] And these, these living entities, they’re flying. They have got intelligence. “The men are coming. We shall be smashed.” They’re flying, taking shelter. Defence. Ahara-nidra-bhaya-mai… Defence, defence measures. They know how to defend themselves in their own way. Similarly they know how to eat and similarly they know how to sleep. But what is the difference between this insect and me? I can talk of God, I can understand God. It cannot. That is the difference. Full Lecture
Monarch Butterflies Use Medicinal Plants to Treat Offspring for Disease
ScienceDaily — Monarch butterflies appear to use medicinal plants to treat their offspring for disease, research by biologists at Emory University shows. Their findings were published online Oct. 6 in the journal Ecology Letters.
In a humble attempt to expose the everlasting truth of the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradayas’ workings, inaugurated some trillions of years in ages of yore, to rescue lost conditioned souls like myself, we come to a strange topic that has been percolating recently. That of: Did His Divine Grace A.C. Srila Prabhupada, by His instructions “invent something new,” regarding disciplic succession; the passing of transcendental knowledge.
Hmmmmm…. this is a valid question. So as all-ways let’s see how His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada answers as to how one passes a perfect recipe called transcendental knowledge, seamlessly, in an unbroken chain.
Srimad-Bhagavatam lecture 7.9.28 Mayapur, March 6, 1976, Srila Prabhupada states,
“So this is the process. Tava bhrtya-seva. We have to… Adau gurvasrayam. First beginning of Vaisnava life is to accept guru, spiritual master, adau gurvasrayam, then other things. Because who will teach you? So we have to approach a pure Vaisnava as spiritual master, follow his instruction. And what is his instruction? His instruction is as he was instructed by his spiritual master. He does not invent instruction. This is instruction. The pure Vaisnava, he does not invent anything new.”
Hmmmm….For those interested in following the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya, this may lead to; Did Srila Prabhupada misunderstand the instructions of His Guru Maharaja ? Did His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Maharaja a pure Vaisnava, invent anything new and pass it to His disciples, including another pure Vaisnava, Srila Prabhupada ?
Well, what exactly did His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Maharaja request His disciples to do, being the directly empowered representative of Lord Sri Krsna and His Parampara, in constant Bhakti Yoga with Him, to keep this glorious and faultless chain intact? [Read More…]
Srila Prabhupada explains the divine position of Sri Gadadhara Pandita
In the beginning of the Caitanya-caritamrta, Krishnadas Kaviraja Gosvami writes, “I offer my respects to my spiritual masters.” He uses the plural here to indicate the disciplic succession. It is not that he offers obeisances to his spiritual master alone but to the whole parampara, the chain of disciplic succession beginning with Lord Krishna Himself. Thus the guru is addressed in the plural to show the author’s highest respect for all the Vaishnavas.
Adi-lila 3.52: “In the Age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who constantly sings the name of Krishna. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Krishna Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, servants, weapons and confidential companions.”
PURPORT BY SRILA PRABHUPADA
This text is from Srimad-Bhagavatam (11.5.32). Srila Jiva Gosvami has explained this verse in his commentary on the Bhagavatam, known as the Krama-sandarbha, wherein he says that Lord Krishna also appears with a golden complexion. That golden Lord Krishna is Lord Caitanya, who is worshiped by intelligent men in this age.
That is confirmed in Srimad-Bhagavatam by Garga Muni, who said that although the child Krishna was blackish, He also appears in three other colors-red, white and yellow. He exhibited His white and red complexions in the Satya and Treta ages respectively. He did not exhibit the remaining color, yellow-gold, until He appeared as Lord Caitanya, who is known as Gaura Hari.
Prabhupada, Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila 20.110, New York, July 17, 1976: […] By the sun’s illumination we see practically how trees are growing their leaves, their color. Everything is due to the sunshine, we have got practical experience. Where there is no sunshine, especially in these countries, all the leaves fall down, and as soon as there is sunshine, immediately millions and trillions of leaves come out. Immediately. Not that waiting. Immediately.
At least in this way you have to understand how Krishna’s potency is working. That is the Vedic information, parasya brahmanah saktir. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate svabhaviki jnana-bala-kriya ca. Just like the sunshine is the potency of the sun and how it is acting wonderfully.
Dr. Oliver, Rector of the University of Durban, October 10, 1975: […] But how does one get modern man to voluntarily make this experiment? The real tragedy is we have wandered so far away from the spirit that we do not know where to start. And we can’t get a few dozen honest believers to sit down and try to find out how much God wants to give of His mind to our minds.
Srila Prabhupada: God is giving Himself. We just have to accept Him. That requires a little advancement. Otherwise, everything is there. God says that the soul is eternal and the body is changing. It is a very simple example. A boy becomes a young man, and a young man becomes an old man.
There is no denying this fact. I can understand it, and you can understand it. It is very simple. I remember that as a boy I was jumping, and I cannot do that now because I have a different body. So I am conscious that I possessed a body like that. Now I do not possess it.
The body is changing, but I am the same person eternally. It requires a little intelligence to see this, that’s all. I am the owner of the body, and I am an eternal soul. The body is changing.
Sri Guru-Tattva and the Secret of Diksa (Part 1)
By: Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura
(On the morning of Wednesday, August 8th 1934, Sriyukta Rajendranath Pal Chaudhuri Mahasaya, the famous zamindar of Louhajang, came to Sri Gaudiya Matha accompanied by one of his employees. Offering his humble dandavats at the lotus feet of Sri Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Prabhupada, he expressed his desire to hear some words on Sri Guru-tattva and the secret of diksa etc. Srila Prabhupada obligingly gave a valuable discourse for two hours. Some brief excerpts from that talk are presented below. It has only been possible for us to publish this priceless gem by the help of Upadesaka Pandita Sripada Pranavananda Pratnavidyalankara Mahadaya. Thus, we convey our sincere gratitude at his feet – Nishikanta Sanyal)
Rajen Babu – Is it necessary for me to take diksa again if I have already taken diksa from a kula-guru (hereditary family guru)? He does not eat fish or meat; he studies the Bhagavatam, is the son of a Gosvami and is a householder.
Prabhupada – Bhaktisiddhanta:
asat-saṅga-tyāga, – ei vaiṣṇava-ācāra
‘strī-saṅgī’ – eka asādhu, ‘kṛṣṇābhakta’ āra
To discard the company of those who diminish one’s resolve in krsna-bhakti (asat-sanga) is truly the natural conduct of a Vaisnava. And the most detrimental association of all is those who enjoy the company of women and the non-devotees. (Cc. Madhya. 22.087)
These two types of non-devotees can never become spiritual masters. They are not devotees of Krsna.
kibā vipra, kibā nyāsī, śūdra kene naya
yei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā, sei ’guru’ haya
Whether one is a brahmana, a sannyasi, a sudra or whatever, if he is fully conversant with the science of Krsna, he is eligible to become a guru. (Cc. Madhya. 8.128)
From this we understand that Sri Gurudeva must be a krsna-tattva-vetta (one who knows the science of Krsna). It is incorrect to assume that only those who are born in a high caste family, who has attained knowledge of the Absolute (brahma-jnana), or who are famous are entitled to be guru. Sri Gurudeva may externally be a brahmana, a sannyasi or a grhastha – that is irrelevant. If the spiritual master is not a krsna-tattva-vetta, he should be abandoned. [Read More…]
By Yashoda Nandan Prabhu
Srila Prabhupada glorifies Srila Vrindavana dasa Thakura:
Vrindavana dasa Thakura’s birth
tanra garbhe janmila sri-dasa-vrindavana
narayani—of the name Narayani; caitanyera—of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu; ucchista-bhajana—eater of the remnants of food; tanra—of her; garbhe—in the womb; janmila—took birth; sri-dasa-vrindavana—Srila Vrindavana dasa Thakura.
Narayani eternally eats the remnants of the food of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Srila Vrindavana dasa Thakura was born of her womb.
Gold, Guns and God: Swami Bhaktipada
and the West Virginia Hare Krishnas
© 2016 by Henry Doktorski (Hrishikesh Das)
Government Exhibit 433: photograph of the body of Sulocana dasa
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One chapter from Henry Doktorski’s forthcoming book:
Chapter 63: The murder of Sulocana.
At approximately one a.m. Pacific time (four a.m. Eastern time) during the early-morning of Lord Nrsimhadeva’s appearance day, Thursday, May 22, 1986, a decisive event occurred which inevitably and irrevocably changed the destiny of New Vrindaban: while the 33-year-old Sulocana sat rolling a joint 1 in his rusted 1976 Dodge van, maroon in color, parked at the intersection of Flint Avenue and Cardiff Street, a half-mile from the Los Angeles ISKCON temple, 2 his brains were blown apart by two bullets from a hand gun fired through the driver’s-side window at close range.
The coroner reported: “Gunshot wound number one was to the left lower jaw region of the cheek, and it caused injury to the jaw bone, caused injury to a vessel of the carotid artery, and went through the cervical spine, that is, the spine in the neck region, and a bullet was recovered. There was injury to the spinal cord as a result of this gunshot wound. The second gunshot wound . . . also entered the face and the entrance was in a region just in front of the left ear. This gunshot wound went through the cheek region of the left side to a bone called the maxilla, went into the oral cavity and came out through the right maxilla, the cheek bone, and exited, that is came out, in the right cheek region. . . . The bullet was recovered from the musculature behind and lateral to the neck spine on the right side. . . . Surrounding the entrance of gunshot wound number one there were multiple abrasions or scrapes in which there was some glass pieces.” 3
News of the murder spreads quickly: New Vrindaban all a-buzz.
The news of Sulocana’s murder traveled fast: lightning fast. The murderer, Bhaktipada’s disciple Tirtha dasa (Thomas A. Drescher), made a speedy getaway from the Los Angeles temple vicinity to the airport, where he dumped his rental car and made a quick telephone call to New Vrindaban authorities while waiting for the next flight back east. He said, “I went to the airport, dropped off the vehicle, took the first flight out of Los Angeles . . . I guess about an hour and forty-five minutes later. It just happened to be going to Dallas.” 4
Separating the Saints from the Swindlers
In an interview with the London Times, Śrīla Prabhupāda explains how a sincere seeker can tell the difference between a counterfeit and genuine spiritual guide.
Reporter: What frankly worries me is that since the arrival in Britain some time ago of an Indian yogī, who was the first “guru” that most people had ever heard of, a lot of “gurus” have suddenly appeared out of nowhere. Sometimes I get the feeling that not all of them are as genuine as they ought to be. Would it be right to warn people who are thinking of taking up spiritual life that they should make sure that they have a genuine guru to teach them?
Śrīla Prabhupāda: Yes. Of course, to search out a guru is very nice, but if you want a cheap guru, or if you want to be cheated, then you will find many cheating gurus. But if you are sincere, you will find a sincere guru. Because people want everything very cheaply, they are cheated. We ask our students to refrain from illicit sex, meat-eating, gambling, and intoxication. People think that this is all very difficult—a botheration. But if someone else says, “You may do whatever nonsense you like, simply take my mantra,” then people will like him. The point is that people want to be cheated, and therefore cheaters come. No one wants to undergo any austerity. Human life is meant for austerity, but no one is prepared to undergo austerity. Consequently, cheaters come and say, “No austerity. Whatever you like, you do. Simply pay me, and I’ll give you some mantra, and you’ll become God in six months.” All this is going on. If you want to be cheated like this, the cheaters will come.
Reporter: What about the person who seriously wants to find spiritual life but who happens to finish up with the wrong guru?
This has manifested after deliberating on the poisonous change of Bhagavad-gita As It Is 4.34 1972 to the non gita 1983, wherein soul has be changed to souls, and he to they. Both have been provided.
Paramapara authorized 1972 edition
Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual
master. Inquire from him submissively and render service
unto him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto
you because he has seen the truth
Ignorance authorized 1983 version
Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual
master. Inquire from him submissively and render service
unto him. The self-realized souls can impart knowledge unto
you because they have seen the truth
Hmmm.. i know who”he” is, He is the current link in the unbroken disciplic chain. The He is the Founder-Acarya of the worldwide Krsna consciousness movement, His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, but what is this they all about ? who or what would make such a bold, arrogant move as change Lord Krsna’s speech ? Who would be so pompously confused 5000 plus years later to make a singular person that The Blessed Lord Sri Krsna speaks personally about to Sri Arjuna into a plural persons ? and what does His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada say regarding something like this unauthorized and misleading, cheating, bluffing, lying statement that has arisen and was not ever uttered once by Sri Bhagavan. [Read More…]
THE FALL DOWN OF ISKCON GURUS
(Their philosophical deviation, perverted ideology and bogus siddhanta)
BY: VIKRAMASINGHA DAS – INDIA
The perverted Iskcon GBC philosophy on guru-tattva and initiations has evolved over many years. In the late 1970s and early 80s, they conceded, due to the insistence of a few leading members, that eleven individuals had been appointed and empowered by Srila Prabhupada to act as zonal acharyas in Iskcon. The GBC conceded that these eleven could create their own authority structure called “The Acharya Board”. The GBC agreed that only these eleven could be initiating spiritual masters in Iskcon and, in the future, only they could appoint other spiritual masters, or diksa-gurus, from among their disciples or Godbrother followers.
In the latter part of the 1980s, after few of the “chosen eleven” fell down and went insane, these contentions were overturned under mounting pressure from a so-called guru reform movement. GBC reformists decided that these eleven “Iskcon acharyas” could no longer be zonal autocrats above the authority of the GBC. The GBC resolved that only a majority vote of the GBC body would have authority to sanction and regulate initiating spiritual masters in Iskcon. They resolved that any devotee sanctioned by the GBC could initiate his own disciples in Srila Prabhupada’s mission, and they recommended that “diksa-gurus” no longer accept elaborate public worship in Iskcon temples and titles and prayers meant for maha-bhagavatas. They thus tried to reduce the power and ritual status of “Iskcon acharyas” while opening the door for all senior preachers “in good standing” to covet the post of “Iskcon guru”. In this way the GBC quelled the “guru reform movement” within Iskcon. [Read More…]
These demoniac people (politicians, bankers, etc) want us to use only credit cards
or online banking so that they can control our money and track our every move.
India Outlawing Cash – Cash is for criminals.
The Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced on Friday the 14th, that 75 cities will be designated cashless/less-cash townships, with an overwhelming 56 of them being in Gujarat. Modi is determined to bring India into the 21st century. He is being cheered behind the curtain and every government is keenly watching the results. The townships were actually selected on the basis of a recommendation by none other than Price Waterhouse Coopers (PWC) furthering the G20 agenda to stamp out tax evasion worldwide.
We should be paying close attention to this effort for it is really a global effort to desperately try to support socialism in a world facing a complete collapse in the global monetary system that is on the horizon. Government keep borrowing with never any intention of paying anything off. It’s just one Ponzi Scheme until nobody buys the debt anymore and it just stops. [Read More…]
The Lord’s beauty
darśanaṁ no didṛkṣūṇāṁ
rūpaṁ priyatamaṁ svānāṁ
My dear Lord, I wish to see You exactly in the form that Your very dear devotees worship. You have many other forms, but I wish to see Your form that is especially liked by the devotees. Please be merciful upon me and show me that form, for only that form worshiped by the devotees can perfectly satisfy all the demands of the senses.
The Lord’s beauty resembles a dark cloud during the rainy season. As the rainfall glistens, His bodily features also glisten. Indeed, He is the sum total of all beauty. The Lord has four arms and an exquisitely beautiful face with eyes like lotus petals, a beautiful highly raised nose, a mind-attracting smile, a beautiful forehead and equally beautiful and fully decorated ears.
The Lord is superexcellently beautiful on account of His open and merciful smile and His sidelong glance upon His devotees. His black hair is curly, and His garments, waving in the wind, appear like flying saffron pollen from lotus flowers. His glittering earrings, shining helmet, bangles, garland, ankle bells, waist belt and various other bodily ornaments combine with conchshell, disc, club and lotus flower to increase the natural beauty of the Kaustubha pearl on His chest. [Read More…]
The “Living Guru” Concept (concoction)
BY MADHUDVISA DAS
Hare Krishna, All Gloires to Srila Prabhupada. I have been reading the articles on this website for at least a few years now and it has given me great spritual benifit. I do agree that there are so many bogus guru’s out there I am looking for a guru as well, but I still think that there must be a living guru to approach. Do the devotee\’s who maintain this website reccomend anyone as a bonified spritual master other than Prabhupada? Prahbupada is the spritual master of the entir world there is no arguing this point but how can one take initiation from him. Please do not take any offence by my question, this is a most sincere question. Your Servant Steve
Hare Krishna! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Thank you very much for reading the articles on www.krishna.org and I am happy that you feel you have received great spiritual benefit from these articles.
You say you agree there are so many bogus gurus but you think there must be a living guru to approach and can I recommend one. Firstly this idea of “living guru” is very offensive. If you are talking about “living gurus” then we have to assume that you consider that Srila Prabhupada is not in the category of a “living guru,” that he is a “dead guru.” This is most offensive and it is not your fault for thinking in this way but this is the philosophy that many so-called spiritual organizations are spreading. So there is no question of a “dead guru.” The spiritual master lives in two ways, one is his physical form which may be appreciated at some time and no longer appreciated, however the other way the spiritual master is living is through his instructions, his vani. His physical form is called “vapu” and his instructions are called his “vani.” It is more important to associate with the spiritual master by following his instructions than by serving his physical form. [Read More…]
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The Spiritual Master and the Disciple
In the months of apprehensive anticipation preceding His Divine Grace Śrīla Prabhupāda’s departure from this world, we, the disciples of His Divine Grace, were all forced to contemplate, more deeply than ever before, certain basic, essential questions: Who is Śrīla Prabhupāda? What is the position of the spiritual master? What does it mean to be a disciple of a spiritual master? What is the nature of my connection with Śrīla Prabhupāda? What is the nature of my relationship with him? And finally, What will be the nature of my relationship with my spiritual master after his physical departure? During this difficult period, and shortly following Śrīla Prabhupāda’s disappearance, I thought that it might be a worthwhile project to compile all of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s instructions on the subject of spiritual master and disciple, so that all of the disciples of His Divine Grace could find shelter, solace and inspiration in Śrīla Prabhupāda’s own illuminating instructions. [Read More…]
Tamal Krishna says
that Srila Prabhupada in his final two months on this planet
ASKED FOR POISON (MEDICINE) TO END HIS LIFE
IN A TAPE RECORDED INTERVIEW DATED 11/77 TAMAL KRSNA STATES:
“A number of time he (Srila Prabhupada) would say: ‘Can you give me
medicine, please give me medicine. That will allow me to disappear now…’
Audio-Transcription: “A number of time he (Srila Prabhupada) would say: ‘Can you give me medicine, please give me medicine. That will allow me to disappear now…’ And other times… ‘I want most now to disappear… I want to die… peacefully… let me die peacefully.’ Now on one hand we could take it and give him that medicine or let him stop eating… fast until death, we could have done that.”
In other words, Tamal is saying he had some authority to poison Srila Prabhupada to get him out of the way, because Prabhupada had asked to be poisoned. And why he was saying this, because he was thinking he might have to cover his tracks, when this poison issue might finally come out. And when it did would come out, that was going to be his excuse.
COMMENT: “Prabhupada wanted some medicine to die – so we gave it to him, because we are faithful, obedient disciples?” WHAT A CRAP.
ALL REAL DISCIPLES AND FOLLOWERS OF HIS DIVINE GRACE A. C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPADA REJECT THESE STATEMENTS OF TAMAL KRSNA GOSWAMI (TKG)
Srila Prabhupada would never use the word “disappear” in the first person! This is how the passing of a Devotee is describe by OTHERS! I DID NOT POISON PRABHUPADA. In fact, NOBODY POISONED PRABHUPADA.
The idea that SRILA PRABHUPADA WOULD COMMIT SUICIDE is a very non Prabhupada way of doing things. Its completly in the mode of ignorance normally. AS AN ACARYA, to show how to leave the body by suicide is not a very perfect example. Furthermore as an ACARAYA and thus a teacher showing by his own exemple for common peole to follow its highly unlikly that he choose the way of leaving in the mode of ignorance as well by taking drugs. After all SRILA PRABHUPADA warning that dying under the influence of a drug is very dangerous beacause it unables one to think of Krishna.
Jayapataka Swami has not discounted the possiblilty of poison. He simply says that if Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, it was done by the Gaudiya Matha. Tamal himself has suddenly “found” a CYA tape with Satsvarupa Maharaja that alleges that Srila Prabhupada wanted Tamal to play “Dr. Kevorkian” and do a “merecy killing” because Tamal says that Srila Prabhupada had said,”help me disappear“. If Srila Prabhupada wanted to commit suicide as Tamal claims, then he (as a former pharmacist) was fully capable of obtaining some sort of poison and taking it to “help Him disappear”.
Why would Srila Prabhupada wish to commit suicide, when he teaches in his books, that suicide is sinful?
Prabhupāda: By suicide he becomes a ghost. That is more troublesome. Yes. Because the body given by God, he is killing. So from this body he has to accept another body. So unless that point comes, he has to remain a ghost. You have committed so many sinful activities, and simply by killing you are trying to escape. In that way you are committing another sin. You are committing another sin. Therefore these persons who commit suicide, they become ghosts. Suppose I have to live in this body eighty years. I’ll make suicide. So up to five years I have to remain a ghost, no body. Then it may be chance to get another body. This is wrong. Killing of any body, because na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre. (Philosophy Discussion) [Read More…]
Dont be depressed or feel alone
(compiled by Padmapani Prabhu)
“I understand that you are feeling my absence. Krishna will give you strength. Physical presence is immaterial; presence of the transcendental sound received from the spiritual master should be the guidance of life. That will make our spiritual life successful. If you feel very strongly about my absence you may place my pictures on my sitting places and this will be source of inspiration for you.”
January 19, 1967)
“But always remember that I am always with you. As you are always thinking of me I am always thinking of you also. Although physically we are not together, we are not separated spiritually. So we should be concerned only with this spiritual connection.”November 13, 1969)
“To feel separation from the Spiritual Master or Krishna is very good position. That means one who is in pure love with Krishna and His Representative, Spiritual Master, he thinks always of Them. And this thinking process is Krishna consciousness. If we can think always of Krishna even in separation, that is Krishna Consciousness. And in the absolute platform, there is no difference of separation and meeting. The separation is also meeting, rather in separation one relishes the loving relationship more tasty. So don’t be disappointed that you are separated from me, I am also always thinking of you how you are making progress there.” October 21, 1968)
“Spiritual Master is along with you by his words. Just like my Spiritual Master is not physically present, but I am associating with him by his words.” August 18, 1971) [Read More…]
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