Prabhupada, Honolulu, May 28, 1976: So we have to go to the platform of soul. That is spiritual education. But there are so many other stages. Somebody’s stopping in the mind. He’s thinking that this is the final. Philosophy, poetry, imagination, the mind mental… As we see that mostly your Western philosophers, they are stuck up on the platform of mind.
That’s all. They’re thinking this is the final. So far I’ve studied only Socrates. He has reached up to the point of soul. Otherwise, all Western philosophers, they’re on the mental platform. So anyway, we have to go farther, farther. So the dreaming is the function of the subtle body, namely mind, intelligence and false ego. You’re not free, the subtle body.
So those who have no knowledge how material things are acting, covering the soul, they utmost they can think of the mind, the activities of the mind—thinking, feeling, willing, psychology, or writing some books, some mental speculation philosophy. They think this is final. That is not final. You have to go farther to the intellectual platform, then egoism, then soul. That is described in the Bhagavad-gita:
indriyani parany ahur indriyebhyah param manah manasas tu para buddhir buddhes tu ya para sah [Bg. 3.42]
Krishna is giving all intelligence. That is, through gross understanding, this indriya, the senses.
So those who are in the lowest stage of knowledge they are in the bodily concept of life—the indriya, the senses. Just like cats and dogs, they cannot think more than that. So, but Krishna advises, “No, don’t stop here.” Full Lecture
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