Jayapataka does not chant his rounds , for days on end he wouldnt pick up his bead bag or clicker…
Jayapataka was incapable of pronouncing the words Hare, Krishna and Rama , the GBC knows this and even assigned one of his disciples to sit and listen and then report, the report was in the negative. Even though the devotee was completely sold out to Jayapataka, he was honest. The only time JPS will pronounce the mantra clearly is, when making a big show, as in Mayapur when on the rare occasion of him turning up for japa period.
He will dominate the atmosphere, sitting on his ostentatious seating arrangement , calling out occasionally to “enliven everyone”…
While travelling, he would hardly ever attend the morning program , only making an entrance to give class, he would prepare for this by having a little read of comic book [folk tales and myths of India ] sourced from a Calcutta train station,
I never witnessed any study of Srila Prabhupada’s books … On occasion he would fall asleep giving class…
He undoubtedly has an eating disorder and packs it away in a manner embarrassing to those with him in public. On the plane he would have 10 course take out feasts, and in meetings with non devotee professionals who where visibly shocked and disgusted, he would gorge himself on feasts personally served by his “servants” while others would have a simple lunch.
Maybe I was a little to sensitive to others reactions… he would have a young female disciple wash his kaupins regularly, [he doesn’t wash his own, if there’s some one else to do it]
He (Jayapataka) is violent , I saw him beat a devotee round the face whilst on the Calcutta Rath Cart, he thought it was his disciple but it turned out to be his godbrother…
I witnessed him give orders for gangs of fiery brahmacaris to go and sort various problems out…
He threatened to “spill my blood” for humbly expressing doubts over the contradictory behaviour I had seen, at first he said he couldn’t remember anything then looking into my eyes pitifully told me he thinks he has Alzheimer’s and doesn’t know what’s going on anymore…
He is regularly dishonest , to many instances to write about here, but one example hails from our waiting in line at the airport whereupon he lets rip with a huge **** everyone in the place turned to look at him, his immediate reaction was to glare at me in a shaming and blaming way…. he would fly into hellish rages and accuse those around of causing all sorts of problems for which he was responsible…
There are many more examples of heartless and cruel behaviour regarding Jayapataka , all of which I personally witnessed, [no need for hearsay and rumour for me to fully realize he is not quite the pure devotee he would have us believe].
I don’t think they all need listing, maybe if comes to court, something like Nurenburg, I will be there.
His main thing is psychic vampirism , a major method is public shaming, he would do this in crowded airports sometimes screaming and baring his teeth like a monster or at least in front of a group of devotees, such as in New Talavan where he shamed an innocent young girl for not bowing down before him “what’s up ******* don’t you pay your obeisance’s to Sannyasi any more” he said it so mean, and all the other devotees give her disgusted threatening looks, this was a young child standing outside her home just watching the devotees go by.
His idea of healing the problems devotees have in their relationships was to side with one party and gang up on the other so there is, so to speak, a winner, he just caused more trouble wherever he went…
One last thing to finish it for me, was when I tried to forget it all and take it as my own faultfinding. I returned to Mayapur in the late 90s to get “purified”, he was giving class [no matter what the original topic was he would only harp on about his right to be worshiped ]
I was sitting to his side when it appeared that his features had changed, and he looked a bit scary, as soon as this entered my mind he stopped speaking and slowly turned to face me, this I swear is no exaggeration , his face was fully demonic and filled with wrath , it even changed colour and became grey with red eyes, he knew I could see him and didn’t seem to like it at all.
I wasn’t really phased with his glaring rage and thought of him as a real unfortunate who has got himself in a right tangle. I am sure that one will not hold up in court…. but I believe I had real darshan… what would Omkara or Acharya or Mahatma do after such experiences? would they still follow blindly? or could they perhaps face the truth that these people are posing as gurus and pure devotees while reaping a terrible carnage in the hearts and lives of sincere souls? they are the greatest ********s.
It is all there right in your face. Do you really not get it! Like you guys, many of the Bengali devotees consider him the Acharya of Iskcon , he does not seem to mind that misconception at all, they also think he is selflessly travelling and preaching the science of KC all over the world, not true. He plays this role as his image of a world acharya, when in fact one of the main reasons he travels outside of Mayapur and India is to keep away from those natives in his zone, because, quote ” they drive me craaazzy ” and collect more money and unwitting disciples to enforce his own little deluded empire .
He takes complete advantage of the natural devotional nature of the Bengalis to live out this grandiose delusional fantasy without a care in the world as to his own madness [I for one am convinced he is seriously in need of psychological help].
Devotees sometimes cite his service history as proof of his divines, not it seems realizing that there are many other unsung heroes who worked harder and more devotionally than him on those very projects he takes so much credit for. The difference is, they are humble vaisnavas and therefore shun any wonderful displays of “specialness” and showbottleism within the society of devotees.
By nature he seems to be a ruthless politician at heart and would think nothing of having someone beaten or [if he thought he could get away with it] killed if they stand between him and his fame , even those who now defend him or similar regimes.
He comes first, he has to be the biggest best and baddest, or he gets very upset indeed, he runs on image, take that out of the picture all you have left is some one in severe need of clinical attention.
Am I straying from the facts here?? This is 14 years on for me and I am still disturbed and troubled . The GBC etc. know all this and much, much more but still he reigns. What a f*****up useless cult.
Last night I had a dream of Jayapataka [it inspired me to post again] he came calling at my place in a travelling Vyasasana mobile [really] and wanted me to go with him again, I agreed thinking “wow my guru has come for me personally”, I went to get my things from my room and found a whole flock of birds had come in through the window, all types really colour full and lively, in particular there where lots of humming bird types, so beautiful and delicate… they allowed me to catch some of them to show to Jayapataka, I held them carefully in my closed palms and was just about to reveal them to Jayapataka, when he quickly and forcefully blew on my hands, all the life energy which I felt fluttering and vibrating in my palms left. As I opened them all that remained where lifeless and featherless bodies… ( any dream analysts out there ?) maybe more later….
yours desiring love and peace… sri fruitcake apada
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Dasdasi : I think your dream is pretty obvious even from the dream itself as well as everything you said in both your posts. Certainly you know you should never go anywhere with JP either in body or mind. In your dream he killed those birds in your hands just by blowing. If he could blow them to death what would happen if you got any closer? Stay away from Jayapataka and some of the other ones as well. Some of them put up good external shows but inside they are just like Jayapataka.
Nitaicandra : If indeed it is true that you had a special vision of Jayapataka, then maybe you saw his subtle body (aura), and also his original, real (?) features (theoretically supposing he is a demoniac creature envious of Prabhupada, while leaving the possibility open that none of the above is true). So if he really is a demon who has been exposed by your subtle vision, then also many claims made by other people might also be true (poison issue, takeover plans, enforced ritualistic jackboot-licking , orchestrated child-abusing by cheerleader-pooja as good as jesus qualified to assist radha-krishna in divine lilas, book changes …). That gives rise to the question if he has not incarnated (among others) especially for that purpose (usurping and destroying Prabhupada’s mission) ?
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Jayapataka Swami alias Gordon John Erdman
Omkara : the anecdotes you have mentioned all sound very out of character to me and borderline delusional. I don’t believe them.
Really? how much personal experience do you have to be such an expert on his character? as for my borderline delusions, I would say they where mostly confined to accepting false gurus [3 altogether] and thinking the upper echelons gave a flying f—- about my spiritual well being, please clarify which anecdotes seem delusional and I may clarify in return, don’t forget Jayapataka at least at one time had more faith in tantric ghost busting to solve just about any problem than in the holy name>, however, since they are your personal recollections, the only one I can attest to be wrong is
> he was giving class [no matter what the original topic was he would only harp on about his right to be worshiped]—- how can you attest? where you there? I was referring to a specific time period, the same time period when he led a march of around 300 ‘disciples’ on the temple in Mayapur when his right to be worshipped was in question by the GBC, also in this same period he read out, somewhat resentfully, an apology from the GBC concerning the original 11 admitting they had committed ‘the greatest offence to the devotees of Iskcon’ this was just after Harikesh split with a ton of $$$ and the heat was on. Its not a lie, I don’t need to print lies, I am making a great effort in my life to live with truth. Its not easy for us to do that, but I do realise if I lie about such serious things I am setting myself up for more torment. This is an obvious lie. (yeah, I’m sure all he did in every class was talk about how he should be worshipped. That sounds real credible.) I suspect that the rest of what you have written is equally motivated.
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What I have written about Jayapataka is motivated by what? Truth and freedom are my motivational aspirations. If I can be supportive of those with similar directions by exposing blatant hypocrisy then I feel satisfied,
I have seen some of my friends go crazy, kill themselves and come to hate with a vengeance the cult which fu***d them up, so much they need to take medication to keep there sanity.
You may be living in a bit of denial if you don’t mind me saying such, denigrating others pain by dismissing them as delusional liars is on par with the hurtful cult dynamics currently employed in Iskcon, what exactly is your motivation?
Regarding my experience of seeing Jayapataka as demon-like for a few moments – I don’t see him as full blown demon specifically incarnating to disrupt Srila Prabhupada’s mission.
He was a young extremely intelligent man with great [material] future ahead of him he gave it all up after reading about Buddha and was on route to India when he met the devotees and surrendered to SP, he applied himself as only he can in a focussed obsessive way, then one day he was told he was a guru [not by SP though] so he applies himself to that in similar 100% fashion.
His whole id is that of guru on the same level of Srila Prabhupada. Now that unfortunately, is delusional . The stresses and strains of maintaining that particular illusion and receiving and expecting massive lavish worship would warp any sane mind no matter how smart, is it not?
His demonic visage which I glimpsed in all its wrath was, I believe a manifestation of extreme attachment, threatening any who would challenge, and its sort of understandable to me, that’s why I consider him as “in a right tangle” that’s what happens to all of us when we are implicated in deception, no doubt, this is nature how things work.
Omkara do you think I am the only ‘servant’ to have witnessed these things and rejected him as a guru? Do you have idea of the turnover rate of his disciples? I personally do not hate Jayapataka or any one [I don’t think] I have seen the man behind the madness and I could really get on with him, but at the moment I consider him trapped in false world.
As I have ventured to speak my mind in all honesty please refrain from replying with more insults and perhaps furnish us with your personal experience and again, your motivations.
yours desiring love and peace… sri fruitcake apada
http://www.harekrsna.org/jayapataka-hist.htm
Powerful letter Prabhu. Very brave of you to state what you have seen. Hope you are well and happy.
ys Suvarna
King Kamsa employed shapeshifter demons to attack Balarama and Krishna.
At First, Hare Krishna. I think there is another beast-like ass. Who is it? The owner of this article and the repliers in favor of it. Be curse upon those, who didn’t respect JPS. Prabhupada declared him the eternal companion of Lord Nityananda. But alas! Heads full of cow dung cannot realize it. Again they claimed themselves as powerful devotee. I think you all involved are the companions of kali.
Hare Krsna,
Ths is a letter I saw on iskcon desire tree website
“Introduction of HH Jayapataka Swami by a senior devotee Srinathji in Sri Sri Radha Gopinath Mandir, Chowpaty, Mumbai:
Hare Krishna!
It is our great privilege that we have amongst us Jayapataka Maharaj ki jai… He is one of the senior most disciples of HDG AC Bhaktivendanta Swami Srila Prabhupad. With your permission, Maharaj, I would like to say something about when you first came to India in 1970. Jayapataka maharaj must have been at time in his early 20s and Prabhupad brought several of his disciples to Bombay. They came for lunch at my father’s house and Maharaj was of course one of them. Prabhupad told my father, who was a Member of Parliament( Lok Sabha) that this young gentleman whom you see in this chair now, at that time he was Jayapataka prabhu. So he wanted to become an Indian citizen from an American citizen. So my father said this is very strange. So many Indians want to become American citizens and why does an American want to become an Indian citizen and he wanted my father to sponsor him to become an Indian citizen. At this stage Prabhupad made a phenomenal statement which I still remember as I was a witness to it as I was standing there.And he said that this young man at that time Jayapataka prabhu is an eternal associate of Lord Caitanya! Hari bol! Hari bol! He will always be in India, he will preach in India, he will have thousands and thousands of disciples who will be Indians. They will be from Bengal, he will preach in Bengali language. Now please note at that time I could see total surprise on Maharaj’s face and it must have come as a shock to him but anyway I was right there as a witness. So I can say I am now 70 years old and that time I was 30 years old. 40 years ago ki baath hai yeh (this is 40 years old event). So then by Krishna’s mercy, Maharaj became an Indian citizen and the first thing he did was to write a letter to my father- a thanks letter to my father, which I have in original, signed by him with his pen in his handwriting and thanking my father for sponsoring him to become an Indian citizen. Maharaj, we welcome you with our deepest hearts and gratitude for coming to this temple. You have undergone so many difficulties, indescribable how a human being can bear it but you have been able to for one purpose only- we know this and that is to fulfill Prabhupad’s desire to preach!! And you started preaching straight away! So once more , thank you for coming to Sri Sri Radha Gopinath temple and with these few words I would like Maharaj to give us his class. Thank you very much Maharaj!
Jayapataka Swami Maharaj: Hare Krishna!”
But practically we see that HH JPS has become a demon…how can an eternal associate of Lord Caitanya become like this?This heavy statement could not have been just a casual encouragement by Prabhupada, right? How can Prabhupada’s words go wrong?
Begging for a reply,
Santosh
Evil_killer says: I think there is another beast-like ass. Who is it? The owner of this article and the repliers in favor of it. Be curse upon those, who didn’t respect JPS.
You curse someone who has the courage to speak the truth? Better be careful. Your curse may backfire!
Dear Santosh prabhu, “Jayapataka prabhu is an eternal associate of Lord Caitanya” — we have to be careful whether Srila Prabhupada actually made such statement or if it is fabricated by unverified source.
If this was actually true Prabhupada would have ordered JPS to be his successor. When Krishna descends anywhere, He is accompanied by His own associates.
Even the six Goswamis are not all eternal associates. “Rupa and Raghunath Goswami are eternal associates”. (9 September, 1967)
There are two kinds of living entities: nityamukta or eternal associates of the Lord, and nityabaddha or eternally conditioned. This material manifestation is a chance for the eternally conditioned entities to go Back to Godhead; but when they go back there is no distinction between the two.
Arjuna is an eternal associate. If JPS would be an eternal associate of Lord Caitanya, Prabhupada would have mentioned this in his books or lectures.
History repeats itself, Prabhupada: “But these people, just after his passing away they began to fight, who shall be acarya. That is the failure. They never thought, “Why Guru Maharaja gave us instruction so many things, why he did not say that this man should be acarya?” They wanted to create artificially somebody acarya and everything failed. They did not consider even with common sense that if Guru Maharaja wanted to appoint somebody as acarya, why did he not say? He said so many things, and this point he missed? The real point? And they insist upon it.”
“Insist upon it” — So this also happened in Gaudiya-matha, some would claim Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja told them this and that and therefore they should be guru.
Even Lord Yamaraja is not an eternal associate. Prabhupada: “The difference between the Pandavas and Vidura is that the formers are eternal associates of the Lord Personality of Godhead, whereas Vidura is one of the administrative demigods in charge of the Pitriloka planet as Yamaraja.” (SB 1.15.49)
In the reply of my first article, it is seen that many are against my opinion.ha..ha..! But actually as a public, I see very stronger wish to serve prabhupada and guru gauranga in JPS moharaj. I think this is a great teaching for us. If he was/is a demon(be curse upon who says) he could not bear such a stronger wish,never. It is not a question that what kind of companion he was(maharaj). He was a companion of lord Nityananda. That’s all. When a human claims maharaja’s quality of character, at first, he should see his own character. Prabhupada gave the duty to maharaj and maharaj is carring on his duty even in his severe physical disorder. The true love to maharaja by others is proved when we see that many of maharajas,his Godbrothers, sent their letter informing their gratefulness about maharaja to maharaja’s ill condition. And numerous devotees also made know us their own gratefulness. For his great philantropical activities all over the world made him very friendly and lovely. So why don’t I curse? It won’t back to me because I am in side of a greater devotee of guru and gauranga. Those who dare to speak evil words upon him they will surely go to the hell. It is a great vaishnava offence. So think again and again about speaking a single worse word about him. Think your own attributes in ISKCON in proportion to Jayapataka maharaj’s. If you all are the real followers of Srila Prabhupada then you cannot disobey his words about maharaja’s.
Thank you to everybody.
Peace be upon who respects the devotees and Radha Madhava.
Hare Krishna.
Santosh says: This heavy statement could not have been just a casual encouragement by Prabhupada, right? How can Prabhupada’s words go wrong?
1. Srila Prabhupada said that all of his disciples are pure devotees just to encourage them.
2. When Balavanta Dasa was running for mayor of Atlanta, Srila Prabhyupada said that someday he would be the President, just to encourage him.
Jayapataka Swami became a criminal in early 1978, when he started pretending to be a “guru like Srila Prabhupada” through the agency of lies, the hiding and destroying of documents, the hiding and destroying of audio recordings, and the banning, beating, and even murdering of those godbrothers/sisters who dared to protest.
Hare Krsna,
It at all what evil killer says is true,then all our discussions are simply in vain…JPS has amasses a large number of disciples around 5000,as much as Prabhupada….so how do we differentiate between his and Prabhupada’s accomplishments?There were many bad things going on even in Prabhupada’s presence,right–by many of his disciples.Please help me to clear my doubt…I mean no offense whatsoever…I only want to strengthen my conviction in Prabhupada.
Your servant,
Santosh
According to the testimony of a number of ex-gurukulis in the Windle Turley lawsuit, while Jayapataka was eating 50 course feasts every day, and he was thus getting to be as fat as a giant walrus, the children in the schools managed by JPS were getting rotten oatmeal that had green mold growing in it. Eating it made some children vomit. This is not food you would feed to a dog even.
Some of the children reported they had rotten teeth because they were not getting enough calcium. Other children have reported having stunted growth due to starvation. Never mind hundreds of boys were reporting allegedly homosexual molested. Meanwhile Jayapataka was eating the whole house down, which of course lead to him having a near death stroke, because he was a big as a house in the end, from stuffing his fat pig face. He was eating enough for 100 children just by himself.
Of course at the same time JPS was also making his hero best pal Bhavananda the acharya of Mayapura, who was having homosexual affairs with taxi drivers in the holy dham, and he was spending thousands of dollars on gold pens, while there was no money for food for the children.
Later on some of these children were committing suicide so we had to make a lawsuit to help them. Evil_Killer is a good name, that is what they did to those children, agreed. Oddly, JPS program not only starves children, he is killing himself by stealing all the money to feed the children and eat himself to death like a giant hog, he is killing himself.
Now JPS is spending $15,000,000 to sue and stop our free food program in India, how did you guess, as soon as JPS finds that children are eating at all, he has to stop that with a giant lawsuit, and so JPS has dedicated his life to stopping children from eating with giant lawsuits, against people who feed children. Yes, as soon as JPS finds that children are smiling and eating, he has to spend $15,000,000 to make sure these children starve to death. Why does JPS dedicate is life to starving the children of the earth?
At least Kamsa was merciful, he just killed the children, JPS wants to kill children slowly by starving them gradually, he wants to torture them to death. No wonder the GBC loves this man, his program has children mass molested and starved children, so he is their hero. They were not happy they only starved a few thousand, now they want to starve millions, they are expanding their children attack process. And JPS is the leader of this process, because he is the direct example of how they wanted to divert food from children and into their fat faces. ys pd
Santosh:But practically we see that HH JPS has become a demon…how can an eternal associate of Lord Caitanya become like this?This heavy statement could not have been just a casual encouragement by Prabhupada, right? How can Prabhupada’s words go wrong?
Mahesh: Jayapataka apparently wanted to put on symptoms of PURE devotee BUT Srila Prabhupada tactfully exposes his drugs habit:
69-03-11. Letter: Jayapataka
Srila Rupa Goswami used to say, wishing if he had possessed millions of ears, and billions of tongues then he could chant the Hare Krishna mantra a little bit relishably. In the conditioned stage, we chant Hare Krishna mantra officially without any attachment and try to finish the rounds as soon as possible. Sometimes we also forget to chant the prescribed number of rounds. But Haridasa Thakura even at the last stage of his life, he was chanting 300,000 beads although Lord Caitanya personally asked him to not labor so hard. But Haridasa Thakura said that he would continue the practice till the end of his life. So that is the position of transcendental taste. Please therefore chant very sincerely with your present aptitude of mind and Krishna will bless you more and more in understanding this secret of transcendental vibration. Of course, sometimes the public may misunderstand such tears of bliss, so we may better have to check it from the vision of ordinary persons.
So far the strange colors, etc., better when you see all these things that you chant and hear; that will help you to understand what they are. (Also, it may be some effects of your past drugs habit.)
Hare Krishna.
Again in discussion.
Dear Santosh Prabhu,
What did you mean by “But practically he has became demon?” First, you have to explain it. I see nobody in this discussion is friendly to JPS maharaj. So, how can they give answer your question? Don’t you believe in what prabhupada said? Pratyatosa das is angry with me..ha..ha! But with respect, I wish to tell him that his own speculation or opinion to prabhupada’s words cannot be valid. He told that prabhupada used to tell devotees as pure to encourage only. If so, prabhupada also used to tell others that he had many temples,disciples etc. even before these had become true. If prabhupada told it just to encourage people then why so many temples and his disciples exist now? Think it again. What prabhupada told, was directly. Thus prabhupada told that JPS maharaj was a eternal companion of lord Nityananda/Caitanya. It was directly and we should accept it just as it was. No own explanation can be valid in this point. He(pratyatosh) also described maharaj as a criminal(curse upon him who insults vaishnavas). What is the proof? First explain Pratyatosh. Puranjana das also have no any clear proof of his own words. Be conscious of telling such. Unless, you all will be victim of jamaraj.
Thanks to all.
Hare Krishna.
I do not write many remarks, but i did some searching and wound
And, if you are posting on other online sites, I would like to follow anything fresh you have to post. Could you list of all of all your shared sites like your twitter feed, Facebook page or linkedin profile?
up here Guru Hoaxer Jayapataka Swami Srila Acaryapada rejected by his own disciple – PRABHUPADA NEWS.
And I actually do have some questions for you if it’s allright. Could it be simply me or does it appear like some of these remarks come across like they are left by brain dead folks?
Evil_killer says: What is the proof? First explain Pratyatosh.
I said:
The above is common knowledge among Srila Prabhupada’s disciples. I challenge you to find even one non-self-motivated disciple of Srila Prabhupada who denies any of it.
Evil Killer: Puranjana das also have no any clear proof of his own words. Be conscious of telling such. Unless, you all will be victim of jamaraj.
Thanks to all.
Hare Krishna.
[PADA: We have plenty of proof. The GBC gurus were sued for $400,000,000 over the child molesting, they plead in court “no contest,” that means they are guilty. I am quoting to you also some of the testimony of children who were victims of the Jayapataka school system, they testified in affadavits in court that they were starved, beaten, molested and deprived of ordinary supplies like soap, blankets, shoes and etc. while JPS was living like a king using the money meant for the schools.
JPS is a person who was a leader of their school system, and he was eating like a pig, he was as big as a walrus, everyone saw that he was huge while some of the children looked like concentration camp victims. Bhavananda was moving molesters into the school system and was, and still is protected by JPS. As soon as JPS found out we were feeding children he sued us and has spent $15,000,000 suing us, this has been in the media in India. Sorry, all of this has been proved in courts already. ys pd
I also can claim that all you, pratyatosh and puranjana, said is absolutely false. Since we are in a forum where we cannot talk face to face, it can be possible that you strongly claim your proof without showing any abstract proof. Ok, I can challenge you to stop maharaja’s divinity or popularity among the people by your spirituality. But you cannot do this. GBC was claimed by prabhupada that it is the body of him. And even without GBC’s permission he did not go to any place. For, he taught us not to disobey GBC. JPS maharaj was also in GBC. If prabhupada saw any fault in him(jps) then why he made him GBC member? Don’t avoid this question. So strange. You are even against Srila Prabhupada. I told that many maharajas and numerous devotees made us know their sympathy and gratefullness to maharaj in his ill condition. OK, I cannot rewrite those letters here because it is too small place. So you, protyatosh and puranjana, need to communicate with those sympathic person to see my proof. But I know all my words will in vain to you, because you are the worshipper of kali, not really devotees of Krishna. Because Krishna’s devotees do not see any fault even in a faulty person, so far as to devotees! Actually you are the hogs, pigs, bitch, evil, demon, servants of kali, and not JPS maharaj. All the good lessons will in vain to you. You all are spreading poison by this poisonous site. If Prabhupada were in his body, then he would kick you with a great speed to refresh ISKCON from such offensive person. But remember you becomes older day by day. Of course all the poisons vomitted by you will surely be refreshed by Lord Krishna as He mentioned in holy Gita. So careful! Do not do offense!
Thanks to everybody.
Hare Krishna.
Dear Puranjana and Pratyatosa Prabhus,
I request you to kindly give the best possible explanation to Evil Killer for the benefit of all here,so that I also don’t fall to his arguments,
Begging for a strong reply,
Your servant,
Santosh
JPS is the founder father of the worship of homosexual pedophile acharyas regime. The result of his support for the worship of child molesters as acharyas was and is: Thousands of children were starved, beat and molested, as was proven in court with hundreds of testimonies from the victims. And JPS headquarters in Mayapura was reported by the children to be the worst place in all of ISKCON for the starving, beating, abuse and molesting. And this means all these evil actions were taking place right in front of JPS door. Are you saying all this is going on right at JPS doorway and he has no idea it is going on there? No, he was covering up for these people and he still is, he still keeps Bhavananda and his crew there even today. Meanwhile, as the children were not getting food, JPS was eating like fifty hogs put together, and he got as fat as a giant bulldozer, and thus he got a stroke. Just look at his face now, this is the result of eating enough for 100 children by starving them and taking their food. He is getting his karma for stealing the food from these children by his stroke, and that is just the start of his reactions for orchestrating child abuse in the holy dham. And now JPS favorite people buried Kirtanananda in the holy dham, JPS is always having homosexual pedophiles being worshiped, even after they are dead. ys pd
Evil_killer says: Actually you are the hogs, pigs, bitch, evil, demon, servants of kali, and not JPS maharaj.
Your having to resort to low-class name-calling simply demonstrates that you are defeated.
JPS told his “disciple,” Madhu Pandit Prabhu, temple president of ISKCON Bangalore, to research the ritvik issue. Guess what Madhu Pandit discovered? Why don’t you ask Madhu Pandit what he thinks of his “guru” now?
All my friends. It is seen that really my words has gone in vain. I am not surprised at all. Santos prabhu begged a strong reply!
But his begging replies are full of wrong words. I requested to my friends not to avoid my question ” if prabhupada saw any fault in jps maharaj then why he made him GBC member?” But I didn’t get answer. I guessed it and knew the answer cannot be given by my friends. Because if it was given they would do it with disobeying Srila Prabhupada in favour of them. And the discussion might be closed. But my friends! Give the answer of my question first. Dear puranjana, if maharaj was reported and he was accused by court then what punishment was given to maharaj by court…uh? You didn’t tell it. By making our discussion complex you are trying to hide many important things. OK, my question to you why prabhupada didn’t make you a Guru? Why he made maharaj a guru? I think some of you, who were not selected as guru, are now trying to make a new movement so that you may get some opportunities by creating fatal condition in prabhupada’s society. If there were no any guru to preach krishna consciousness, would you preach? Prabhupada didn’t do this. He created a system. All of your words are full of black hole. Why you don’t answer to my question at first? Now, I think, to demolish such a evil person jps maharaj really need to be as a buldozer. Bheema had a large face and body so that he could defeat the rascals. Think JPS maharaj as Bheema who is serving guru gauranga by his body. You show you are really a truth speaker. If so, why don’t you tell your complaints to GBC openly? Why are you spreading poison among people hiddenly? Actual cause is you have no power to tell it openly. Only saintly person can tell everything in a open place without creating any violence. JPS maharaj preaching the teachings of prabhupada and you are wasting your time to findout his false fault. So JPS maharaj of course will go to Krishna but you? Oil your own machine. Some of you of prabhupada’s disciples are trying to act as a guru without any qualities. You feel jealousy of our present gurus. It is very cheap and common incident among us. Pratyatos asked me why I don’t want to guess about madhu prabhu’s invention!!!
Because it is very cheap. If jps maharaj broke the rule of prabhupada by being a established guru then how are Narada, vyasa or bhakti siddhanta thakur or even Srila prabhupada? They are also established guru. So what is your problem. A disciple is not much qualified to research his guru who is in authorized by his authorized guru. Therefore, I won’t obey any disciple’s complaint about jps maharaj after authorizing him by prabhupada. And this is very scientific. And at the end I advise you to beg pardon from maharaj as vaishnava offense lead us to hell and suffering. You can realize it when you suffer. Hope the answer is given.
Thanks to all.
Hare Krishna.
Srila Prabhupada never appointed any gurus. He only appointed ritviks. This is explained on:
http://rtvik.com/
Srila Prabhupada said, Jayatirtha is my Tirtha. So according to Evil Killer that means we should all take LSD, have illicit sex with others wives, and get our heads chopped off for same. Sorry, Srila Prahbupada once said all of his disicples are former associates of Lord Chaitanya, to encourage us, it does not mean that we all actually are! Its a means of encouraging, plain and simple. ys pd
Re the critizing devotees and Vaisnava aparadha, one shouldn’t criticize a devotee’s past and sadhana but when one is in any official, including a spiritual, function, his misconduct must be known to prevent misleading others.
Re JPS, I guess his main driving force was to achieve the goal of having 50 000 disciples, as SP once supposedly asked him to initiate. Personally I experienced that he was very much into this. All the “show” was aiming at that. So in the West he used to initiate newcomers, bypassing the recommendation process, and GBC stopped it later. And in India, I heard, he was initiating the whole villages at once. Tons of karma to deal with.
Now the Mayapur mafia just waits for his disappearance to wreak havoc, as they already once tried, when he was once rushed to a hospital.
Jiva das: Re JPS, I guess his main driving force was to achieve the goal of having 50 000 disciples, as SP once supposedly asked him to initiate.
Mahesh: “supposedly” means speculation. Srila Prabhupada has not stated this anywhere. Nither this is accepted in Srila Prabhupada books. On the contrary, Srila Prabhupada clearly states the opposite:
One should not try to be an artificially advanced devotee, thinking, “I am a first-class devotee.” Such thinking should be avoided.IT IS BEST NOT TO ACCEPT ANY DISCIPLES. One has to become purified at home by chanting the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra and preaching the principles enunciated by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Thus one can become a spiritual master and be freed from the contamination of material life.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/7/130