Posted Juli 24, 2010: Further note by Krsnacnadra: That he did not have burns to 100% of his body that has been wildly speculated. There was minor burns on his knees and hands and his bottom lip as he was kneeling in front of the gas burners. His face and chest was reddened but there was no blistering of his skin. Of course due to being over eight hours in the position of paying his obeisances there was some lividity present at the burn sites (his face and chest).
Following is a letter that I submitted as a response to the initial situation that transpired soon after Aindra left. We are slowly getting things together and a lot has improved since then. We are still very much in shock and miss him dearly. Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada ** Aindra dasa
kcdasa108@hotmail.com Wednesday, 21 July 2010 11:11:42 AM panch pgauda@alltel.net Temple President ISKCON Vrndavan
Dear Panc, All glories to Srila Prabhupada. I would like to request that some points could be taken into consideration in relationship to the institution dealing with Aindra Prabhu. Firstly, I would like to say that from my understanding the Temple has been very considerate and kind since our dear friend passed. The passing of Aindra Prabhu has been a shock to the whole devotional community worldwide and great sensitivity care and respect is needed with how the institution handles his arrangements.
How the Temple authorities and the GBC of Vrndavan and internationally deal with these arrangements is of great concern to the devotional community. Aindra Prabhu was fiercely independent and even though he was the leader of the 24 hour kirtan party and a departmental head he never saw himself as an institutional man. It was this quality and realization that kept the kirtan program alive and aloof from the ever changing policies of each successive Temple Administrations and GBCs.
The present Administration and GBC will change, this is self evident, and so the 24 hour kirtan and his will need to have a clear and well defined infrastructure and policy that will ensure that Aindra Prabhu’s legacy and dedicated service to his guru Srila Prabhupada will be protected and maintained nicely.
It has to also be understood that the 24 hour kirtan programme and his Samadhi should never come under the control of any individual, faction or group. The 24 hour kirtan program has become a tradition in ISKCON Vrndavan and should remain independent and free from the ambition and control of any individual faction or group. That is, of course if there is no spiritually advanced and mature devotee who can enthuse and lead the kirtan party.
The Samadhi is more personal and intimate and belongs to everyone and its purity must be strictly maintained and not be allowed to be, controlled or taken advantage of, by any individual faction or group. I would also like to state that there are various misconceptions about Aindra Prabhu circulating around the international devotional community that are largely unfounded and outright mischievous.
Such as; He asked the GBC for Sannyas initiation and to be made a guru that they refused and requested that he take babaji initiation. He has taken babaji initiation from a baba from Radhakunda. That he is giving ‘siddha pranali’ initiation. That he ‘only’ promotes raganuga bhakti. That he has disciples. That he encourages ISKCON devotees to go to take shelter from the babas of Radhakund.
I have discussed specifically these very subjects with Aindra Prabhu only a matter of months before he passed and he was very disturbed and angry that people would make these claims. Those who were his friends knew that he is a very strong and loyal Prabhupada man and would never betray Srila Prabhupada in such a manner. He knew very well what Srila Prabhupada instructed on his disciples going to take shelter outside of ISKCON. He also laughed at the thought that he had the time to go anywhere to take shelter of anyone.
Then there is the idea that the GBC had him killed. Although this sounds improbable it needs to be thoroughly investigated. That means there must be an investigation conducted to be able to make a definitive statement on this matter as soon as possible. The police were only interested in his body and not his room. I humbly request that as far as possible all evidence must be gathered and investigated by independently minded devotees who can be trusted and a report tabled.
There is also the question of a devotee who apparently witnessed the explosion and failed to act in a caring and appropriate manner. This requires investigation and should this claim be true this needs to be deal with for such a lack of care could reflect poorly on the training quality and attitude of the devotional service of devotees who live and serve at the Temple.
As far as his book is concerned Aindra Prabhu and I talked at length on what must be done. We planned to launch it from my home with fortnightly readings and bhajans for those who were interested. This we due to the pressure that the Vrndavan GBC and other GBC members put on him to stop the publishing of his book.
As many of his godbrothers knew of Aindra prabhu and my plans to promote, distribute and reprint his books – several offers have been made to help in funding the initial book publishing.
Prabhu, I do not fear the GBC on this matter which is made especially so since Aindra prabhu is no longer present and cannot be hurt by anyone, so I will do my very best to make sure that his wishes are done.
I am suggesting that a trust is formed with specifically RadheShyam, myself and several of his close friends to manage his book. I know that this is not specifically the area of responsibility of ISKCON but as I know you were also close to him and that you need to know.
Anyway prabhu, thank you for hearing me and for all the assistance and sensitivity in which you have dealt with the arrangements to do with our friend Aindra Prabhu
Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada, Krsnacandra dasa
More Infos: http://blogs.myspace.com/52199499#ixzz0uc3lwo3r
Dear Prabhu
Please, please send me as fast as posible this book by email. We will translate and distribute it in France.
Vrj
Dear Prabhu’s
As I said previously, it is improbable that anyone ‘killed’ Aindra Prabhu. There needs to be a conclusive investigation conducted to ascertain the specific details of the incident before any accusations can be leveled at anyone. Personally from my own investigation I see no reason to doubt that it was anything but Krsna’s arrangement. However, I have indicated on several occasions to the ISKCON Vrndavan Temple Management that the actual gas bottle / gas regulator and the gas hose be analysed by a professional to obtain a definitive conclusion as to the cause and spread of the fire. This to my knowledge is yet to be accomplished.
It is a well known fact that the Vrindavan Executive Board (GBC) was opposed to the publication of Aindra’s book and he told me many times that specific individuals from that board requested that he did not publish it as a book and intimated that he will be removed from his seva at the temple and excommunicated from ISKCON if he proceeded with its publication.
There is no doubt in my mind of the veracity of these statements from Aindra Prabhu.
Aindra Prabhu was very enthused with his upcoming book. We would always talk about it and how we were going to launch it from my home as the Temple was against its publication and how he would give readings finishing with Hari Nama bhajan and prasadam. He was most clear that his book is kept strictly in the format and quality that he has worked so hard to achieve and that it is never edited or changed in any way from the final edition.
The devotees concerned with making sure that Aindra Prabhu’s book is published and distributed are keeping the status of the book highly confidential and have assured me that when it is finally ready and printed then they will make this known to me. I have implicit trust in these devotees who I know have the best interest of Aindra Prabhu at heart.
Also regarding the point I made about the misconceptions on Aindra Prabhu… He at no time requested to be given sanyasa from ISKCON or from anyone. The title ‘baba’ that some devotees are attributing to Aindra Prabhu is not a status but an affectionate term used by his friends. Baba is an affectionate term used in India. Some of his friends took to calling him Aindra Baba as one would say Govinda baba.
So I would like to clear this up once and for all. Aindra did not take babaji initiation. If you were his friend I would imagine that it would be okay to call him this affectionately but if you are not then I would think it only proper that one should refer to him as Aindra Prabhu… I was close to him but I never once called him baba.
If you knew him you would understand how he was not happy with being misconceived in any way.
Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada and the memory of Aindra Prabhu.
Krsnacandra dasa
hare krishna ,
i wanted to comment a reply to krishna candra on his comment on Aindra prabhu’s leaving his body, by propane gas explosion, here devotee said he had lost his smelling sense and therefore could not detect. i need more info, it was a set up unless rumors are correct.
your servant
chandra vidya dasa
Regarding Aindra Prabhu’s alleged poor sense of smell, in this part of the world an additive is mixed with gas to give it a distinctive odour -as otherwise it has none. If this were not the case in India, the gas would have been undetectable by anyone as it is completely odourless in its natural state. Ys Sila dasi
I had never heard of him until his tragedy. I want to read his book though. What most devotees have not grasped is the serious power of the Holy Name. They have lost that understanding if ever they had it. To them it is a means to an end, a badge of membership, a stage show for customers and a qualification for fans to some.
The name was removed as much as possible from the world as a whole so as to impede Lord Caitanya and Srila Prabhupada from releasing the masses from their stupor and opening their hearts for love of God, Krsna. Of course this will not last, the impediment I mean. The Holy Name can clear material threats from the earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and ego.
Yes it can stop wars, purify oceans, clear chemtrails, stop earthquakes, shut down HAARP, stop tsunamis, reduce taxes, reduce prices on food, increase food supplies, bring rain to dry areas and wet areas to dry, lengthen human life spans and improve general health, get people off illicit sex, off recreational drugs, meat eating, intoxication and gambling. It can bring world peace and co-operation, turn swords into plough shares, heal the sick and lame, help keep families together and make everyday that everyone gets up a day to look forward too.
Hari Nam sankirtan can do this. It is our main weapon it is not a simple Hare Krsna folk song. Launch that weapon now.
Ys Hasti Gopala Dasa
Jay dear Hasti Gopal das Prabhu!
harer nama harer nama harer nama eva kevalam
kalau nasty eva nasy eva gatir anyatha
There is no other way, no other way, no other way than chanting the holy names, chanting the holy names, chanting the holy names of the lord….
Everything HG Aindra prabhu wanted to say is in his last Vyasa Puja offering to Srila Prabhupada. His book will probably reveal the same but more in detail. Read the transcription:
http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/07-10/editorials6355.htm
Pertinent points he made:
1. On Raga Bhakti: He talks abt the need for use to enter into raga bhakti to realize our siddha deha, out spiritual form.
“Thus some devotees attain knowledge about the moods of Krishna and His Vraja associates from the mouth of the Rasik Vaishnava guru, some from the mouth of the learned Raganuga devotee, and some whose heart has been purified by practicing devotional service will have this knowledge directly revealed to them from within their hearts.” – HG Aindra Das
2. On Sastra’s essential message: He wants us to read the the higher rasas experienced by Radha and Krishna with the gopis via the books left to us by the sampradaya acrayas. He stresses on the urgency of taking this up.
“How can we deem our transcendental book distribution a complete success? Unless that someone becomes fully absorbed in relishing the braja bhavas as a result of having gained the attraction and greed for them by deeply imbibing the sastras essential message.
Work now samadhi later, that’s alright, but what work? and how much later? How later does later have to be, before later to be considered later enough? Later after some future God knows how many births? ” –HG Aindra Das
3. On Guru: But he says that attaining the highest moods of the gopis can only be obtained via the self realized guru or Caitya Guru.
“It’s nice that we in our spiritual infantility, intelligently rely on the power of our guru’s fully self realized purports in the matter of assisting his preaching mission through the solid medium of book distribution. That is no doubt a tremendous credit. In the end
however, it will surely be preposterous to expect the books to be fully Krishna Consciousness for us, wouldn’t it? ” – HG Aindra Das
4. On Who can be Guru?: He stresses that only a liberated and self-realized soul can save the conditioned souls.
“It’s only the emancipated jiva therefore who truly realizes what bliss is in store for the conditioned souls upon achieving the highest perfection. And as such, the emancipated is the fittest to instrumentally deliver the fallen souls to their highest end. Having the fully actuated in sac-cid ananda deha the emancipated jiva remain ever beyond the degrading modes of the ever degrading material nature. He or she may remain therefore, perpetually within the material world for assisting in the Lord’s preaching mission. Apparently, descending
into the 2nd class or madhyama adhikari devotional status without running the risk of falling down to the material platform. ” — HG Aindra Das
5. On Guru Selection and Yuga Dharma of this age: He daringly criticizes the current guru selection process. He says only a self realized guru who is a rasika Vaishnava guru or Raga bhakta can be our guru. He has warned those not qualified not to initiate disciples. He
emphasised on the importance of our yuga dharma that is performing nama sankirtana to achieve the ultimate perfection of reaching raganuga bhakti.
“No where is it mentioned in any sastras that neophytes and intermediate devotees achieve prema by initiating hundreds and thousands of disciples. It is really best not to accept any disciple at all. I repeat, this is Srila Prabhupada’s instruction from the purport in Caitanya Caritamrta it is really best not to accept any disciples at all. Better by far we humbly endeavor to chant suddha naam via the intent prosecution of yuga dharma nama sankirtan with a view to achieve ultimate ragamaya perfection at the feet of Sri Guru. Then we may hope to become truly empowered instruments in the hands of the predecessor acaryas. ” – HG Aindra Das
“We must always remember it is not that the authority constitutes truth. Truth constitutes authority. That is guru parampara. Diplomatic affairs tend to dismantle brahminical culture. ” – HG Aindra Das
6. On internal form of Srila Prabhupada: He is most likely sees Srila Prabhupada as a manjari.
“Whatever we understand about Srila Prabhupada according to our individual maturity, level of purity, capacity and angle of vision we should know beyond a shred of doubt that our Srila Prabhupada is the top most braja basi, very very dear to Srimati Radharani. And by his
mercy, we can also become similarly dear to her if we deeply understand his mission, sincerely take shelter of the yuga dharma nama sankirtan and try our best to follow in his footsteps without material contrivance and mental concoction. ” — HG Aindra Das
7. On his own self realization: He has probably realized his siddha form via his Caitya guru within. And in his compassion and prema that he has obtained, he wants us to realize that as well either via our own Caitya guru or a Raganuga bhakta, self realized guru.
“Please don’t be distracted by the superfluous pursuits. Our human lives are very very short. Moreover the current of world affairs are extremely precarious. The urgency is paramount. If we actually want to become an empowered representatives of His Divine grace, then let us
please boil down the milk making it thick and sweet by seriously concentrating our endeavors, focusing our attention as much as possible on the essence that of what our Srila Prabhupada is ultimately all about. (Bells ring) Confirmed.” — HG Aindra Das
There has been much speculation over the possiblity that foul-play was associated with HG Aindra Prabhu’s departure. If anybody wanted to comit a murder, a faulty gas bottle would have less than 1% chance of success. Sure it could injure the victim, but death would be very uncertain. The smell of gas would alone make this so-called murder plot reidiculous!…On the other hand if the gas bottle fire was used as a diversion, in order to create a false explanation for a death caused by other means, then that is a different matter. Sadly if such is the case, then it is highly unlikely there will be an investigation, because any potential murderer deploying this subterfuge, would know full well that a forensic analysis and post-mortum report would expose the hoax. Therefore they would certainly make sure all the appropriate authorities were bribed. People in the know, say a murder like this nature in Vrindavana would cost upwards of 20,000 Roupees….This is now water under the bridge, Rest In Peace Aindra Prabhu.
AGT Aindra prabhu (I did not even know him) but it appears his only desire was to hear chant and remember Krsna….sure there are many demons within who do not want to see the success of any devotees who are purely and sincerely trying to stay with only truth and not shy to proclaim the truth. So it seems there is certainly motive for any demon or demons to try to do away with such devotees as it is quite clear in our beloved Srila Prabhupada’s case. So it may appear on the surface they are successful in doing this but any devotee with any understanding of action and reaction and aparadha can see they have not and can never be successful in these attempts. Lord Krsna sees to everyone’s purifications. There are so many speculations in regard to Aindra Prabhu but I agree proof is yet to be discovered (whether the gas had odor or odorless, how it could have been set up or rigged) and I do hope this can quickly be determined…till then I hope all devotees who loved Aindra Prabhu have peace of mind knowing NOBODY gets away with anything and Krsna will take All His pure devotees back home…All glories to the incessant chanting of the Holy Name!!! Hare Krsna!!
I have no doubt that gbc had a very good reason to assasinate hg aindra prabhu….he was very outspoken and fierce…did not care at all about the superficial bastards from gbc.
THEY ALREADY HAVE DONE IT BEFORE….check please story on HG SULOCANA dasa who after publishing his book “THE GURU BUSINESS” was shot dead by another so called devotee in LA in 1986…
gbc and other snakes are very afraid to loose their positons,money and people to feed them and pay for they travels….maybe only 3 sannyasis among all of these bastards r pure uttama adhikaris…other then that…demons who are suffering from narcism….they love…but not Lord Krsna…but love themselves….
PLEASE PUBLISH AINDRA PRABHU BOOK ON THE NET…lets the REAL REVOLUTION BEGINS!!!!!!…..we owe him at least that much…
Sri Krsnarpanamasthu!!!!
ummmm, which three? really??!! so there are pure uttama adhikaris hanging out with bastards?
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/wp-content/uploads/aindra.pdf
Knock yourselves out. I have never encountered such a vitriolic text in my life. If this is the revolution you want, than so be it, but I doubt you will garner the support of the egoistic vixens or the sex-addicted griha-medhis of the movement. Such a flagrant disregard for any other human being, for compassion, or best of all, the instruction to not unduly criticise other devotees, to believe that ‘our way’ or ‘his way’ is the best mode of spreading apparently the only possible path to liberation, to claim superior knowledge of the ‘Vedas’ can at best be described as the insanely bigoted ramblings of an obsessive fundamentalist.
Hare Krsna Vishaka,
You seem upset and that is understandable. However, another way you could look at it is as the plain truth and what has been actually authorised by all the previous acaryas.
Don’t confuse vaisnava aparadha with speaking the truth.
I believe that you may be frightened to see that those whom you think are vaisnavas may be simply mundaners in devotional attire.
Don’t let the false guru pretenders distract you from the real Brahma Madhva Gaudiya line.
Cintamani dasi
Amendment to this paragraph
I can definitely tell you if you’re interested in meeting genuine self realised soul you can. It might sound amazing and unbelievable but Krishna is always full of surprises.
If you’re a genuine devotee then ask me where he is hiding I can absolutely say from the bottom of my heart that Radha and Krishna has guided me as a loyal and sincere devotee to a truly honoured liberated soul who is in a living body and walks this earth today.
Can we all know his name?
I can definitely tell you if you’re interested in meeting genuine self realised soul you can. It might sound amazing and unbelievable but Krishna is always full of surprises.
Sri Guru Goswami Radha Krsna Sharan Avatari
Contact para-atma-das at rbdstudio@gmail.com
Amendment to this just proof read it again my apologies
AINDRA PRABHU QUOTATION
On Who can be Sat Guru?:
He stresses that only a liberated and self-realized soul can save the conditioned souls.
What if I’ve told you that I’m privileged to know such a specal person, who is alive today and hiding from Ravana impostors false gurus system would you believe me.
For the last forty years all the work of the previous genuine sat guru has been infiltrated and corrupted genuine followers and material assets have been hijacked stolen and anybody offering resistance has been poisoned or assassinated.
I can definitely tell you if you’re interested in meeting genuine self realised soul you can. It might sound amazing and unbelievable but Krishna is always full of surprises.
If you’re a genuine devotee then ask me where he is concealed. I can absolutely say from the bottom of my heart that Radha and Krishna has guided me as a loyal and sincere devotee to a truly honoured liberated soul who is in a living mind body and walks this earth today.
At the present moment this is strictly confidential knowledge the sort of knowledge mentioned in scriptures
And only available to a selected few who qualify A self realised soul can see the condition of your soul
And your previous incarnations he is very good at detecting Any poisonous inclinations and definitely impostors.
An army of spirit soul guides are waiting in the subtle realms to protect all initiated genuine seekers because your consciousness will burst out you will be born again in Krishna consciousness to be more precise Radha Krishna consciousness in loving awareness and bliss fullness.
When we talk about praising the names unlimited millions of Krishna of which there are also many magnificent incarnations Krishna is the source of everything known and unknown. It is difficult to comprehend unless you surrender Ideally a divine revelation is needed a divine revelation.
That will make your individuals soul fuse with the creation and give you the realisation of its oneness also wittnessing with non creation the TRUE GOD of eternity.
Are you ready do you really want revolution or are you just smug satisfied on accepting more poisonous chanting or holy sacrament contaminated by false messiahs who continually rubber-stamped their credentials.
Contact para-atma-das at rbdstudio@gmail.com
can anyone tell me who all are real gurus in Iskcon?
AVATARAM GODHEAD IS THE SOURCE FROM WHICH AN AVATARA IS CREATED AND HIS GURU PARAMPARA ?
Avataram godhead is the source from which an avatara is created and his guru parampara and
has a timed limit and capability eventual when is the case of it being handed down to an ordinary Guru he/she must make a immediate advancement to gather back up to Avatara qualifications or be considered to be weakling the position or title by diluting or improper replication not referring to the ordinary source Avataram. A ordinary guru might masquerade as a counterfeit Avatara
or an asura evil person will masquerade as a counterfeit guru.
Parampara (Sanskrit: paramparā) denotes a succession of teachers and disciples in traditional Indian culture and Indian religions such as Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism and Buddhism. It is also known as guru-shishya paramparā (“succession from guru to disciple”).
The Sanskrit word literally means an uninterrupted row or series, order, succession, continuation, mediation, tradition. In the traditional residential form of education, the shishya remains with his or her guru as a family member and gets the education as a true learner.
In some traditions there is never more than one active master at the same time
in the same guruparamaparya (lineage).
In the paramparā system, knowledge (in any field) is passed down (undiluted) through successive generations. E.g. division of Veda and its transfer through paramparas describes Bhagavata Purana.
The fields of knowledge taught may include, for example, spiritual, artistic (music or dance) or educational.
Titles of Gurus in Parampara who are not Avatara
In paramapara, not only is the immediate guru revered, the three preceding gurus are also worshipped or revered.
These are known variously as the kala-guru or as the “four gurus” and are designated as follows:
1. Guru – the immediate guru
2. Parama-guru – the Guru’s guru
3. Parapara-guru – the Parama-guru’s guru
4. Parameshti-guru – the Parapara-guru’s guru
1. Guru-shishya tradition
2. Gurukula
3. Lineage (Buddhism)
4. Apostolic succession
Gurus in parampara verses aparampara
Lineage of functional genuine gurus verses Lineage of dysfunctional counterfeit gurus
The original guru in the line of succession must qualify to hand on the session while he is still alive because he always knows exactly when he’s going to die so prior arrangement, are made
In true knowledge that the person he has selected is qualified beyond all reason of a doubt to secure a strong and trustworthy chain in an unbroken lineage.
In cases where the lineage has been seriously broken because of the lack of finding a qualified devotee suitable for the position that guru has no choice but to end the lineage in a state of uncertainty and maybe later on completely ruined by a lineage of dysfunctional counterfeit gurus
In cases where the lineage has been seriously broken for a considerable amount of time the old lineage will have to fade away completely hardly without any trace then a brand new replacement can be made only something original and suitably designed for its purpose, probably not even resembling the previous lineage and method by a person only an avatara who is absolutely qualified to establish a proper connection to a healthy part of the heavenly network administration again and subsequently to secure a sound connection to Godhead.