Room Conversation with Jesuit, 1975, Melbourne
Jesuit, May 19, 1975, Melbourne: Would you say that God loves the person that is doing wrong?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Jesuit: Still.
Prabhupada: Therefore He comes…
Jesuit: To save.
Prabhupada: “Don’t do wrong.” That is love.
Jesuit: And if the person…
Prabhupada: Therefore that is love.
Jesuit: And if the person rejects that love, does He still love him?
Prabhupada: Yes, still love him. He’s trying. God is situated in everyone’s heart, isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese ’rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]
Jesuit: God cannot change.
Prabhupada: Yes. God is friend always. He is sitting with the individual soul within the heart and giving him good advice that “You come to Me, you’ll be happy.” But he’s not going. Therefore he’s here. Still God is with him, “All right, let me see.” Just like the father, he loves his son. He always gives him, “My dear son, why you are going out? Your father has got nice property, you live with me.” But he’ll not do, he’ll go away and become hippie. What can be done?
Jesuit: “Krishna”, what exactly does “Krishna” mean?
Prabhupada: Krishna means all-attractive. That is great. You say, “God is great.” We say God, Krishna. Krishna means all-attractive. Unless you are the great, you cannot be all-attractive.
Jesuit: When you speak of Krishna consciousness, it means…
Prabhupada: God consciousness, God consciousness. God is great and I am His eternal servant. This is Krishna consciousness. Two words: God is great and I am His eternal servant, I am small. This consciousness is called Krishna consciousness.
Jesuit: Do you know the prayer that the Russians use, the Jesus prayer?
Prabhupada: Any prayer. God is one. Either you pray in a different way, I’ll pray in a different way, it doesn’t matter.
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