Evolutionary Assumptions – Life from dead chemicals?

“You have got all the chemicals. Why don’t you manufacture life? So this theory (from matter, life has developed) cannot be accepted.”
Philosophy Discussions
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
The Evolutionists:
Thomas Huxley, Henri Bergson, and Samuel Alexander

httpv://youtu.be/O1fteDkXLBE
video: explorationfilms
“Dr. Jobe Martin was originally a proponent of Darwinian Evolution. For the last twenty years, he has been actively involved in the issue of Divine Creation vs. Evolution.”
http://creationwiki.org/Jobe_Martin

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  1. Mahasana dasa says:

    Here is the welcome message from his home page: http://www.biblicaldiscipleship.org/

    Welcome
    Biblical Discipleship Ministries is a teaching and discipleship ministry for the purpose of bringing the good news of Jesus Christ to the world. God has called Dr. Jobe Martin and his wife Jenna Dee Martin to travel, teach, evangelize and disciple people in all walks of life.

  2. Rukmini Ramana dd says:

    Thanks for pointing out! Right, Prabhupada never would present bhagavat-dharma in a sectarian way.

    Just like Lord Jesus Christ said that “You hate the sin, not the sinner.” Not the sinner. This is very nice. Because sinner is illusioned. He’s mad. If you hate him, then how you can deliver him? Therefore those who are devotees, those who are really servant of God, they have no hate for anyone.
    Just like Lord Jesus Christ, when he was being crucified, he was requesting God: “My Lord, please excuse them. They do not know what they are doing.” This is the position of the devotee.

    (Los Angeles, February 15, 1969)

    So obviously Dr. Martin does a good job in convincing people in general that life cannot be manufactured by chemicals. Who else is preaching like that at present? ISKCON? Negative report! Prabhupada is surely pleased that finaly others take his preaching spirit more seriously and try to defeat atheistic evolution theory.

    We can talk with anyone. Marx. Darwin, all professors and politicians, we can challenge and defeat them. Our philosophy is so perfect. So go on exposing them, that is the purpose of Back to Godhead paper, to expose their materialistic ideas as all nonsense and present the real philosophy that Lord Krsna gives. This is the real knowledge.

    (Letter to: Jagannatha-suta)

  3. Mahasana dasa says:

    Here is an interesting book review in relation to Jesus and the Bible: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/biblefraudreviewmarch02.shtml

  4. Rukmini Ramana dd says:

    Agreed, bible might have some small changes over the years. However, these same people (global atheist movement) would also attack the Vedas. Nevertheless, Prabhupada was aware that there are 2.1 billion Christians.

    Prabhupada: Oh yes. Jesus, the son of God, he’s representative of God. So we have got all respect and honor for him. We worship him.
    (September 12, 1973, London)

    Christians, however, practice bhakti-yoga when they worship Jesus Christ, because they are accepting him as the son of God and are therefore accepting God. Unless one accepts God, there is no question of bhakti-yoga. Christianity, therefore, is also a form of Vaishnavism, because God is recognized.
    (PATH OF PERFECTION)

    So it doesn’t matter whether you understand God through Christian method or Hindu method. But you love God and you abide by the orders of God. Then you are religious.
    (January 29, 1977, Bhuvanesvara)

    And because it is approved by Lord Christ at least the Christian world will accept our Kirtana procedure. I have seen in the bible that Lord Jesus Christ recommended this Kirtana performances in the Bible. You know better than me and I would request you to write a small book on SANKIRTAN MOVEMENT IN THE BIBLE.
    (Letter to disciple, 7 April, 1967)

    Jesus says, “Hallowed be thy name, my Father.” And we are hallowing the name of the Lord. We don’t even demand you say “Krishna.” You can say “Jehovah.” you can say “Yahweh.” You can chant the names of God. You can purify your heart and develop love of God, and then you will stop killing and slaughtering each other.
    (London, August 30, 1971)

  5. Mahasana dasa says:

    According to The Bible Fraud, Jesus is more or less a syntheses of twin brothers who both had remarkable lives. The Bible was put together after 300 AD under the instruction of Constantine, who gathered information from presbyters, who were roving story tellers. They made a living selling drama to the illiterate people. They were street performers, tale tellers, the entertainers of the day. The word rabble comes to mind.
    The Bible evolved from these entertainers and some stray writings, and it was put together under the oversight and authorization of Constantine, who was a psychopathic murderer. He wanted to rein in the Christians under a creed that would stop hostilities in his empire, as these early Christian people were fighting among themselves and with those who did not accept their ideas, and Constantine wanted to shore up his position as Emperor.
    The Bible did not come from original writings that were meticulously copied by honest men. That is a legend, not reality. The source of the information in the Bible is mostly fiction, like the talking snake (Genesis), the flood, the virgin birth, raising the dead, and ascending into heaven (like a helium balloon), the second coming, Noah’s Arc, stars falling to earth from the sky, angels, devils, exorcisms, and on and on. Even the crucifixion was fiction, and there is convincing evidence.
    Indeed, the truth is stranger than fiction. Jesus the Rabbi had 2 wives and 7 kids and died of stoning. That is how far off the mark the story got by the time it reached print, 300 years after the fact.
    Like many things that have happened a long time ago (like even a cold case murder), evidence is hidden, scattered, manipulated, or destroyed, so getting at the hard truth requires research. The older a falsehood is, the harder it is to expose, in most cases, as evidence is lost over time.
    The research in The Bible Fraud is referenced so you know what are the sources of the information, can see for yourself, weigh it out, and come to your own conclusion. There is much evidence, some very strong and some indirect, but all of it points away from the Christian tale.
    Obviously, though, this book is not popular among Christians.

  6. Rukmini Ramana dd says:

    So I understand your authority is THE BIBLE FRAUD websites and our authority is what Srila Prabhupada states. You do not know and I do not know what Jesus Christ realy taught, we have to refer to forwarding. Difference is you refer to THE BIBLE FRAUD put up by some conditioned men and others refer to what Srila Prabhupada states. Who is correct? Fact is that Prabhupada never said things like you posted above. Whom shall I believe? Prabhupada or your THE BIBLE FRAUD?
    Let’s see what Prabhupada says.

    Prabhupada: So what Christ teaches? Let us see what Christ teaches, then we can understand whether only through Christ we can… What is his teaching?

    Devotee (lady): His first teaching is that, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’

    Prabhupada: That’s nice.

    […]
    Room Conversation
    with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
    Delhi, December 12, 1971

    Another thing is, plz back up any statement by quotes of Prabhupada. Thank you!

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