Shesha Dasa from Russia writes wrongs
Another Opinion About the GBC
BY: SHESHA DAS
Jan 18, 2013 — RUSSIA
I personally am deeply saddened by the attitude of Gadadhar das and GBC criticizers similar to him. Although some of the former or present GBC members sometimes are not up to the standard we are expecting from them, although somebody can think that today’s gurus are authorized or not, it is thanks to the selfless service of many of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples whom Gadadhar criticizes that today, me and many thousands of devotees in my country are having a chance to practice devotion to Krishna.
[PD: First of all, these GBC gurus bankrupted and ruined the Krishna religion in the West, particularly USA and Europe. Then they simply ran away while ISKCON was burning to the ground over here, and they fled to places where no one knew about their scandals like Russia and India, so they could prey on a whole new innocent people there.
Notice that folks like BHAKTI VIKAS SWAMI write all kinds of papers how the GBC is not preaching in the West, and BVKS says ISKCON is a bogus HINDU-IZED operation, but notice, he stays in India, has almost all Indian bodied disciples, and has no interested in building anything in the West himself?]
SD: What did these criticizers do for the people in our country? I personally first time hear their name! Did they pray for our spiritual well-being or come to our country undercover, so as not to be caught by secret police? Or maybe they red Bhagavatam and Gita two times a day for us plus kirtans, plus meetings, plus travel every third day to a new city?
[PD: The critics are trying to warn you what they did here will also happen there, they burned ISKCON to the ground over here and they are burning it to the ground with all kinds of lawsuits in India, and they will burn it everywhere eventually, and we are simply warning you about that process.]
SD: Since the beginning of preaching in Russia there have being distributed many millions of Srila Prabhupada’s books! There are temples in every city! There are many thousands of devotees! ISKCON long time is not only temples in USA, it is worldwide! Today’s ISKCON is not society of only Srila Prabhupada’s disciples, it is a worldwide movement of SRILA PRABHUPADA’S FOLLOWERS!
[PD: This is totally bogus, as soon as we say we are devotees of Srila Prabhupada in ISKCON we are kicked out, beaten up and sometimes killed. We were all kicked out for saying people need to follow Srila Prabhupada.]
SD: Regarding your term “rubber stamped gurus”, that is very offensive to me personally and many thousands of others.
[PD: So the GBC system of guru voting is bona fide? Then why do most of their gurus fall into illicit behaviors if they are voting in gurus?]
SD: It is our practical experience that we have got real initiation into Bhakti.
[PD: Most of the GBC gurus has fallen into illicit behaviors, they can not even provide real bhakti for themselves, what to speak of others?]
SD: Enviers can say tons of nonsense, but our real practical experience shows opposite. I personally have seen countless examples of how Krishna showers His love and affection to devotees in our country, how He reciprocates with us.
[PD: And Krishna is reciprocating with us because we are making much progress exposing these bogus GBC gurus and getting people back to the worship of Srila Prabhupada.]
SD: I have seen how bhaktas prayers are answered and how miracles happened practically every day. I know many devotees, initiated by ISKCON Gurus, who are deeply surrendered to our Lord Krishna and got serious realizations in spiritual life.
[PD: Right, we get letters from these people every day, they tell me they are going to worship Srila Prabhupada now and stay in ISKCON, but do not give their names of they will be banned and beaten up. You are saying they are sincere, and we agree, so we tell them beware of the giant secret police gestapo’s jack boots of the GBC gurus, their program will ban, beat and even kill the devotees of Prabhupada, as has occured.]
SD: We practically see that our process is working. People in our country got really introduced or initiated into the practice of devotional service to Sri Krishna by those whom you people are criticising. How dare you people to tell us that our gurus are rubber-stamped! It is we who choose them, not you. It is for us to decide what to do next.
[PD: The GBC gurus are saying that the parampara is full of illicit sex with men, women and children, that is not real service, that is an attack on the guru parampara and Krishna.]
SD: On the example of my friends I see that process is working even if your diksha guru is not up to standards! So far we are Srila Prabhupada’s followers, we have all chances. We got same mantras that you people have, we are singing same bhajans, doing same sadhana and are reading same Srila Prabhupada’s books! We are hearing every day same lectures by Srila Prabhupada and of his faithful followers. And when I see that somebody wants to deprive me of this blissful life, that somebody tries to destroy my spiritual achievements, it makes me furious.
[PD: Well the GBC kicked out all the people who were already doing that here in the USA, their temples are empty and bankrupted, they cannot stand having us people who worship HDG, and they are now over there because they ruined the whole ISKCON program over here.]
SD: Krishna sent to us exactly these devotees to teach us, NOT OTHERS. Who are we to judge His will! But opposite, we will thank Him and Srila Prabhupada for that and glorify Them! (O! Yes, for your consideration. It is interesting that the great Shyamananda Goswami, a direct follower of the Goswamis of Vrindavan and acharya in Orissa in later part of his life, got not one, but three wives. What about of his state of guruship?).
Recently I personally spoke to one of ex-Guru and GBC for some areas in Russia and told him that I’m very much grateful for his service to my country and his support to me personally. I know for sure that this attitude is shared by most of his ex-disciples in my country and worldwide.
[PD: OK ex-guru is totally foolishness, he never was a guru. What the GBC gurus are doing is good for us, they get people interested in Krishna and then those people read our web sites and we re-convert them to worship the real guru Srila Prabhupada.]
SD: I’m not an idealist and know ISKCON inside out. I was Temple President and was removed. But I want all devotees who are reading this site to know another opinion, another attitude. ISKCON is not a society of ideal men. Quite opposite, it is society of un-ideal men, who are trying to live an ideal life. In our lifetime we most probably will never see ideal ISKCON, if it is at all possible in the age of Kali. But what we have now is already a miracle!
If you have a similar attitude please write to sheshadas@mail.ru.
[PD: The guru must be ideal, or he is not a guru, he is a cheater, that is what Srila Prabhupada says, and that is all we are saying. ys pd]
Shesha; Do you remember when you through me out of the temple because I missed a train to get back on time to do my pujari service? You gave men no laxmi after 10 years of service to have something to start a new life with, after collecting over $36,000 for the temple in one year selling Korean paintings. ember when I got burned out with a very service as a head cook? I had no morning program. I couldn’t even finish chanting sixteen rounds a day. It took me two das and long hours to cook practically the whole 8 course Sunday feast for 200 guest and devotees for the Sunday feast. After you won the Surabhi Cow award for the biggest BBT remittance in the region, ND you sent all the devotees who collected the money to India for one month for Gaura Purnima. I requested to go. I took on a lot more service cooking during that marathon so the cooks under me who cooked could go out and collect money for the marathon. You never approved of me to go to India and refused to pay. Are temple devotees less than the ones’ who collect laxmi? Are they to be abused under some kind of communistic utilitarian dictatorship I was your personal slave. When I told you I was burned out from a few years of almost no sadhana you approved for me to go only because Isha dasa a true an dear Prabhupada disciple offered to help and was not cold hearted. When I had one day to travel to Penn State preaching center to see the president there, you called him back and cursed him out with a lot of anger. You call yourself a disciple of Prabupada, however Krishna tells us anger is a gate way to hell. It is not a profile of a true devotee. As a so called. YOU BLEW ME AWAY AND DESTROYED MY DEVOTIONAL CREEPER AND FAITH INISKCON. IT WAS NOW JUST A SHADOW OF THE REAL ISKCON PRABHUPADA STABLISHED. I WAS AROUND ISKCON SINCE 1971, IHAD DARSHANA IN NY. TEMPLE WITH PRABUPADA. ALTHOUGH I NEVER TOOK FORMAL INITIATION, PORABUPADA TOLD ME HE WOULD INITIATE ME IF I FOLLWED TO 4 REGS AND CHANTED SIXTEEN ROUNDS.I am his disciple and I was glad you through me out. You were bad association. In fact after you left so did almost 80 other devotees. That was a result of your poor representation of Shrla Prabupada. I am just curious where did you get all your money from to go to college and become a mundane lawyer? The GBC bought you because of your materialistic credentials. So now you want a prestigious career and have a materialistic designation seeing yourself as a lawyer and climb to the top in the GBC. Your above debate with Russian devotees is just opinionated. There is so much negative garbage about the GBC and the criminal activities embezzlement, murders, online, as a lawyer you did a very poor job trying to defend ISKCON, homo sexual gurus molesting children, committing crimes against federal law. I went to college to become a psychologist and I specialized in addiction counseling. On the job I was able to reach about love of God. Now I teach English in chin and finally got married in China. I have a small sanga here, and it is dangerous because although the Chinese want Krishna consciousness it is illegal and one can be deported arrested or both. I was recently visited the Philadelphia temple and there are only 50 guests who attend and they are 98% Indians. They are still preaching only the fundamental of Krishna consciousness. Does ISKCON want to prevent guests as well as devotees from making further advancement? Do you know how may thousands of devotees turned to Narayana Maharaja as their Shiksha Guru? There are also other Prabhupada disciple from India who are initiating worldwide but they are members of the Gaudiya Matha. The aparadhas that the GBC committed against a rasika vaisnava like him is unforgivable. Prabupada spoke out against this behavior in the nectar of instruction. “Devotees should never limit Krishna Consciousness to a single group of people or a certain tract of lad and always respect all vaisnava’s” (NOI)who chant Hare Krishna. In fact if one is not free of false prestige and pride and does not respect all living entities he does not qualify to chant Hare Nama. (Chaitanya). I was surpised to hear about Ravindra Svarupa who was a close friend of mine. He assaulted a woman devoteekicking her and yelling at her in the pujari room. I heard he was booted out of Philadelphia temple by the GBC because of this incident. Vishnugada was behind that incident. Yes the ISKCIN temples are becoming like Hindu temples and the Sunday go to temple aspirants come there for a social engagement and are only taught during lectures the elementary basics of Krishna Consciousness. feel sad for you and other corrupt GBC members who are stealing money. When I was in the temple, why didn’t you tell the devotees about the execution of Sulochana. Why did you hide this dirty truth? I am not just writing this letter to be a fault finder. The shastra and Guru judges you and your GBC members. That is why devotees who want ISKCON to go back to being Prabhpada’s ISKCON and develop an over site committee who is not paid. So how many thousand do they pay you to fly around the world play all these prestigious leadership roles? I learned a lot about the psychology of the human and animal mind and I am no longer an oppressed ISKCON member treated like an indentured servant. I should have sued Philadelphia ISKCON for you throwing me out with nothing for just being late for a service after you burnt me out. I was partially at fault because I interpreted surrender to complete submission to the demands of Shesha dasa. It was false humility and you have poor leadership qualities. Now that I am free I teach Krishna consciousness in China. I play live concerts and improvise songs about Krishna playing guitar. Why do you parade with GBC and other aspiring devotees to be superior to those who were initiated after you. I have been reading Shrila Prabupada’s books since 1971 Prabupada a stated that anyone who reads my bookd are my disciples. It is a formality only to be physically initiated. sadhu sanga is through associating with Guru through his words and his physical presence. Everyone knows now the truth that Prabupada never made GBC Acharya’s in our sampradaya. After tripping on acid, having illicit sex and embezzling money and writing books on pornography homosexuality molesting children and having sex with other devotees wives I think that hardly qualifies them even to be considered any kind of guru diksha or shiksha. Is this the result of your academic achievement as a lawyer and mundane social science major. There’a a special hell for offensive devotees and it’s a worse hell then mlecchas an rakshasas go to because we have been given the truth by a pure devotee and try to kill Krishna like Putana who put a disguise on expressing motherly affection to Krishna with only a motive to kill Him. Just because someone wears a dhoti and tilaka that doesn’t mean he is a devotee. GBC Appears to be overrun with imitators of Putana trying to destroy the real ISKCON. I hope you all have a change of heart and allow the new self elected over sight committee to weed out what’s destroying ISKCON. When I moved into the Phila. temple in 1978 I saw in the beginning staring to fall apart and it has continued since, and now you patronize wealthy Indians to pay your salaries and to support the temple. I am appalled that GBC is altering Prabupada’s books. Change your heart Shesha and make some internal changes and take yourself off the pedestal. All glories to Shrila Prabupada. Please examine your conscience or your false pride will destroy you soul.
Is this the same Sesa das who has been elected current GBC (Great Big Con) chairman??
MINUTES OF THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING – SRI MAYAPUR DHAM, FEB 22 – MAR 5, 2016
Section 100: APPOINTMENTS
101. GBC Officers and Members
1. His Grace Sesa Das is elected GBC Chairman.
Yhs,
Balaram das