Factually the qualifications of a spiritual master depend on his knowledge of the science of Krsna. It does not matter whether he is a brahmana, ksatriya, sannyasi or sudra. This injunction given by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is not at all against the injunctions of the sastras. In the Padma Purana it is said:
na sudrah bhagavad-bhaktas
te ’pi bhagavatottamah
sarva-varnesu te sudra
ye na bhakta janardane
One who is actually advanced in spiritual knowledge of Krsna is never a sudra, even though he may have been born in a sudra family. However, even if a vipra, or brahmana, is very expert in the six brahminical activities (pathana, pathana, yajana, yajana, dana, pratigraha) and is also well versed in the Vedic hymns, he cannot become a spiritual master unless he is a Vaisnava. But if one is born in the family of candalas yet is well versed in Krsna consciousness, he can become a guru. These are the sastric injunctions, and strictly following these injunctions, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, as a grhastha named Sri Visvambhara, was initiated by a sannyasi-guru named Isvara Puri. Similarly, Sri Nityananda Prabhu was initiated by Madhavendra Puri, a sannyasi. According to others, however, He was initiated by Laksmipati Tirtha. Advaita Acarya, although a grhastha, was initiated by Madhavendra Puri, and Sri Rasikananda, although born in a brahmana family, was initiated by Sri Syamananda Prabhu, who was not born in a caste brahmana family. There are many instances in which a born brahmana took initiation from a person who was not born in a brahmana family. The brahminical symptoms are explained in Srimad-Bhagavatam (7.11.35), wherein it is stated:
yasya yal-laksanam proktam
pumso varnabhivyanjakam
yad anyatrapi drsyeta
tat tenaiva vinirdiset
If a person is born in a sudra family but has all the qualities of a spiritual master, he should be accepted not only as a brahmana but as a qualified spiritual master also. This is also the instruction of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura therefore introduced the sacred thread ceremony for all Vaisnavas according to the rules and regulations.
Sometimes a Vaisnava who is a bhajananandi does not take the savitra-samskara (sacred thread initiation), but this does not mean that this system should be used for preaching work. There are two kinds of Vaisnavas-bhajananandi and gosthy-anandi. A bhajananandi is not interested in preaching work, but a gosthy-anandi is interested in spreading Krsna consciousness to benefit the people and increase the number of Vaisnavas. A Vaisnava is understood to be above the position of a brahmana. As a preacher, he should be recognized as a brahmana; otherwise there may be a misunderstanding of his position as a Vaisnava. However, a Vaisnava brahmana is not selected on the basis of his birth but according to his qualities. Unfortunately, those who are unintelligent do not know the difference between a brahmana and a Vaisnava. They are under the impression that unless one is a brahmana he cannot be a spiritual master. For this reason only, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu makes the statement in this verse:
kiba vipra, kiba nyasi, sudra kene naya
yei krsna-tattva-vetta, sei ’guru’ haya
If one becomes a guru, he is automatically a brahmana. Sometimes a caste guru says that ye krsna-tattva-vetta, sei guru haya means that one who is not a brahmana may become a siksa-guru or a vartma-pradarsaka-guru but not an initiator guru. According to such caste gurus, birth and family ties are considered foremost. However, the hereditary consideration is not acceptable to Vaisnavas. The word guru is equally applicable to the vartma-pradarsaka-guru, siksa-guru and diksa-guru. Unless we accept the principle enunciated by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, this Krsna consciousness movement cannot spread all over the world. According to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s intentions: prthivite ache yata nagaradi-grama sarvatra pracara haibe mora nama. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s cult must be preached all over the world. This does not mean that people should take to His teachings and remain sudras or candalas. As soon as one is trained as a pure Vaisnava, he must be accepted as a bona fide brahmana. This is the essence of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s instructions in this verse.
Madhya 8.129
Wrote this long time back because the IS_CON bunch of MONEY SCREWING SLAVERY MAKING CROOKS were trying to defend they are Diksa gurus by claiming they know the science of Krsna.
**SCIENCE OF KRISHNA**
Srila Prabhupada Diksa guru(paramahamsa)well conversant in science of Krsna.
Accept No Inferior Substitute. Srila Prabhupada is OUR DIKSA guru!
SB 7.13.46
As quoted in Caitanya-caritamrta (Madhya 8.128), Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu said:
kiba vipra, kiba nyasi, sudra kene naya
yei krsna-tattva-vetta sei ‘guru’ haya
A guru, or spiritual master, can be anyone who is well conversant with the science of Krsna. Therefore although Prahlada Maharaja was a grhastha ruling over the demons, he was a **paramahamsa**, the best of human beings, and **thus he is our guru**.
Note: science means hypothesis, theory then **practical demonstration**.
The 2/3 majority voted IS-CON “gurus” lack practical demonstration.
Therefore they do not know the **complete science** of Krishna.
We know for a fact that Srila Prabhupada(paramahamsa)is the pure devotee who has Krishna TELEVISED in his heart and when a devotee chants offenselessly PURE chanting means Love of Godhead. Srila Prabhupada TRANSMITS Krishna into the Madhyama-adhikaris heart. (see CC antya 4.192-4.194 madhyama-adhikari relishes loving mellows with Krishna). This is diksa.
Antya 4.192 T Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri
DIKSA-KALE bhakta kare atma-samarpana
sei-kale krsna tare kare atma-sama
SYNONYMS
diksa-kale–at the time of initiation; bhakta–the devotee; kare–does; atma–of himself; samarpana–full dedication; sei-kale–at that time; krsna–Lord Krsna; tare–him; kare–makes; atma-sama–as spiritual as Himself.
TRANSLATION
AT THE TIME OF INITIATION, when a devotee FULLY SURRENDERS UNTO THE SERVICE OF THE LORD, Krsna accepts him to be AS GOOD AS HIMSELF.
Antya 4.193 T Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri
sei deha kare tara cid-ananda-maya
aprakrta-dehe tanra carana bhajaya
SYNONYMS
sei deha–that body; kare–makes; tara–his; cit-ananda-maya–full of transcendental bliss; aprakrta-dehe–IN THAT TRANSCENDENTAL BODY; tanra–His; carana–feet; bhajaya–worships.
TRANSLATION
“When the devotee’s body is thus transformed into spiritual existence, the devotee, IN THAT TRANSCENDENTAL BODY, renders service to the lotus feet of the Lord.
Antya 4.194 T Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri
martyo yada tyakta-samasta-karma
niveditatma vicikirsito me
tadamrtatvam pratipadyamano
mayatma-bhuyaya ca kalpate vai
SYNONYMS
martyah–the living entity subjected to birth and death; yada–as soon as; tyakta–giving up; samasta–all; karmah–fruitive activities; nivedita-atma–a fully surrendered soul; vicikirsitah–desired to act; me–by Me; TADA–AT THAT TIME; AMRTATVAM–IMMORTALITY; pratipadyamanah–attaining; maya–with Me; atma-bhuyaya–for becoming of a similar nature; ca–also; kalpate–is eligible; vai–certainly.
TRANSLATION
Antya 4.194 Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri
” ‘The living entity who is subjected to birth and death, when he gives up all material activities dedicating his life to Me for executing My order, and thus acts according to My direction, AT THAT TIME HE REACHES THE PLATFORM OF IMMORTALITY, AND BECOMES FIT TO ENJOY THE SPIRITUAL BLISS OF EXCHANGE OF LOVING MELLOWS WITH ME.’
PURPORT
THIS IS A QUOTATION FROM SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM (11.29.34). AT THE TIME OF INITIATION, A DEVOTEE GIVES UP ALL HIS MATERIAL CONCEPTIONS. THEREFORE, BEING IN TOUCH WITH THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD, HE IS SITUATED ON THE TRANSCENDENTAL PLATFORM. THUS HAVING ATTAINED KNOWLEDGE AND THE SPIRITUAL PLATFORM, HE ALWAYS ENGAGES IN THE SERVICE OF THE SPIRITUAL BODY OF KRSNA. WHEN ONE IS FREED FROM MATERIAL CONNECTIONS IN THIS WAY, HIS BODY IMMEDIATELY BECOMES SPIRITUAL, AND KRSNA ACCEPTS HIS SERVICE. However, Krsna does not accept anything from a person with a material conception of life. When a devotee no longer has any desire for material sense gratification, in his spiritual identity he engages in the service of the Lord, for his dormant spiritual consciousness awakens. This awakening of spiritual consciousness makes his body spiritual, and thus he becomes fit to render service to the Lord. Karmis may consider the body of a devotee material, but factually it is not, for a devotee has no conception of material enjoyment. If one thinks that the body of a pure devotee is material, he is an offender, for that is a vaisnava-aparadha. In this connection one should consult Srila Sanatana Gosvami’s Brhad-bhagavatamrta (1.3.45 and 2.3.139).
NoI 5
A madhyama-adhikari has received SPIRITUAL INITIATION from the spiritual master and has been FULLY ENGAGED BY HIM IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE OF THE LORD.
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In the madhyama-adhikari he can see four things. What is that? Four things means, first of all the Supreme Lord, isvara, the controller, he can see. He can see means he understands, he appreciates, he can conceive, “Yes, the Supreme Lord is there”. There is no more theoretical.
NBS 2 P Narada-bhakti-sutra
If a person is fortunate enough to vanquish all misgivings caused by material existence and rise up to the stage of nistha, he can then rise to the stages of ruci (taste) and asakti (attachment for the Lord). Asakti is the beginning of love of Godhead. By progressing, one then advances to the stage of relishing a reciprocal exchange with the Lord in ecstasy (bhava). Every living entity is eternally related to the Supreme Lord, and this relationship may be in any one of many transcendental humors. At the stage called asakti, attachment, a person can understand his relationship with the Supreme Lord. When he understands his position, he begins reciprocating with the Lord. By constant reciprocation with the Lord, the devotee is elevated to the highest stage of love of Godhead, prema.
NoI 7
Although maya may be present, it cannot disturb a devotee once he attains the bhava stage. This is because the devotee can see the real position of maya.
Adi 7.83 Lord Caitanya in Five Features
In this verse it is explained that one who chants the Hare Krsna mantra develops bhava, ecstasy, which is the point at which revelation begins. It is the preliminary stage in developing one’s original love for God. Lord Krsna mentions this bhava stage in the Bhagavad-gita (10.8):
aham sarvasya prabhavo
mattah sarvam pravartate
iti matva bhajante mam
budha bhava-samanvitah
“I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me. The wise who know this perfectly engage in My devotional service and worship Me with all their hearts.”
Madhya 15.108 The Lord Accepts Prasada at the House of Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya
“DIKSA IS THE PROCESS by which one can awaken HIS TRANSCENDENTAL KNOWLEDGE and VANQUISH ALL REACTIONS CAUSED BY SINFUL ACTIVITY. A person expert in the study of the revealed scriptures knows this process as diksa.”
Note: (Svarupa)CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION AS THE ETERNAL SERVITOR OF THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD realized resulting: VANQUISH ALL REACTIONS CAUSED BY SINFUL ACTIVITY. Karma (fruitive activity) burned up THIS is DIKSA.
Bg 4.19 T Transcendental Knowledge
yasya sarve samarambhah
kama-sankalpa-varjitah
jnanagni-dagdha-karmanam
tam ahuh panditam budhah
SYNONYMS
yasya–one whose; sarve–all sorts of; samarambhah–in all attempts; kama–desire for sense gratification; sankalpa–determination; varjitah–are devoid of; jnana–of perfect knowledge; agni–fire; dagdha–being burnt by; karmanam–the performer; tam–him; ahuh–declare; panditam–learned; budhah–of those who know.
TRANSLATION
One is understood to be in full knowledge whose every act is devoid of desire for sense gratification. He is said by sages to be a worker whose fruitive action is burned up by the fire of perfect knowledge.
PURPORT
Only a person in full knowledge can understand the activities of a person in Krsna consciousness. Because the person in Krsna consciousness is devoid of all kinds of sense-gratificatory propensities, IT IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT HE HAS BURNED UP THE REACTIONS OF HIS WORK BY PERFECT KNOWLEDGE OF HIS CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION AS THE ETERNAL SERVITOR OF THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD. He is actually learned who has attained to such perfection of knowledge. DEVELOPMENT OF THIS KNOWLEDGE OF THE ETERNAL SERVITORSHIP OF THE LORD IS COMPARED TO FIRE. SUCH A FIRE, ONCE KINDLED, CAN BURN UP ALL KINDS OF REACTIONS TO WORK.
SB 1.2.21 T Divinity and Divine Service
bhidyate hrdaya-granthis
chidyante sarva-samsayah
ksiyante casya karmani
drsta evatmanisvare
SYNONYMS
bhidyate–pierced; hrdaya–heart; granthih–knots; chidyante–cut to pieces; sarva–all; samsayah–misgivings; ksiyante–terminated; ca–and; asya–his; karmani–chain of fruitive actions; drste–having seen; eva–certainly; atmani–unto the self; isvare–dominating.
TRANSLATION
Thus the knot in the heart is pierced, and all misgivings are cut to pieces. THE CHAIN OF FRUITIVE ACTIONS IS TERMINATED WHEN ONE SEES THE SELF AS MASTER.
PURPORT
ATTAINING SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD MEANS SEEING ONE’S OWN SELF SIMULTANEOUSLY.
This enlightenment perfectly enables the devotee to distinguish spirit from matter because the knot of spirit and matter is untied by the Lord. This knot is called ahankara, and it falsely obliges a living being to become identified with matter. As soon as this knot is loosened, therefore, all the clouds of doubt are at once cleared off. One sees his master and fully engages himself in the transcendental loving service of the Lord, making a full termination of the chain of fruitive action. In material existence, a living being creates his own chain of fruitive work and enjoys the good and bad effects of those actions life after life. BUT AS SOON AS HE ENGAGES HIMSELF IN THE LOVING SERVICE OF THE LORD, HE AT ONCE BECOMES FREE FROM THE CHAIN OF KARMA. HIS ACTIONS NO LONGER CREATE ANY REACTION.
Note: UNLESS ONE IS INITIATED BY THE RIGHT PERSON, WHO ALWAYS CARRIES WITHIN HIS HEART THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD, ONE CANNOT ACQUIRE THE POWER TO CARRY THE SUPREME GODHEAD WITHIN THE CORE OF ONE’S OWN HEART. Krsna is TRANSMITTED from Srila Prabhupada’s heart to the PURE devotee disciples heart. Accepting a faulty bogus guru means no television in heart. Krsna does not go to faulty televison. No diksa!
SB 1.6.33 P Conversation Between Narada and Vyasadeva
The Absolute Personality of Godhead is not different from His transcendental name, form, pastimes and the sound vibrations thereof. As soon as a pure devotee engages himself in the pure devotional service of hearing, chanting and remembering the name, fame and activities of the Lord, at once He becomes VISIBLE TO THE TRANSCENDENTAL EYES of the PURE DEVOTEE by REFLECTING HIMSELF ON THE MIRROR OF THE HEART BY SPIRITUAL TELEVISION. Therefore a pure devotee who is related with the Lord in loving transcendental service can EXPERIENCE THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD AT EVERY MOMENT.
SB 2.9.35 P Answers by Citing the Lord’ s Version
Therefore, although He is present in every atom, the Supreme Personality of Godhead may not be visible to the dry speculators; still the mystery is unfolded before the eyes of the pure devotees because their eyes are anointed with love of Godhead. And this love of Godhead can be attained only by the practice of transcendental loving service of the Lord, and nothing else. The vision of the devotees is not ordinary; it is purified by the process of devotional service. In other words, as the universal elements are both within and without, similarly the Lord’s name, form, quality, pastimes, entourage, etc., as they are described in the revealed scriptures or as performed in the Vaikunthalokas, far, far beyond the material cosmic manifestation, are factually being televised in the heart of the devotee. The man with a poor fund of knowledge cannot understand, although by material science one can see things far away by means of television. FACTUALLY, THE SPIRITUALLY DEVELOPED PERSON IS ABLE TO HAVE THE TELEVISION OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD ALWAYS REFLECTED WITHIN HIS HEART. THAT IS THE MYSTERY OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD.
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So the time is up? No. (break) By initiated process one is elevated to the highest position in this material world. Brahmanas’ position, in this material world, is the highest position. So this is a training to come to the brahminical stage. THEN ONE HAS TO SURPASS THAT BRAHMINICAL STAGE ALSO. THAT IS CALLED PURE GOODNESS. BRAHMANA IS GOODNESS, BUT THERE IS CHANCE OF BEING CONTAMINATED WITH PASSION AND IGNORANCE, BECAUSE IT IS MATERIAL WORLD. BUT WHEN (ONE) SURPASSES THAT BRAHMINICAL STAGE AND BECOMES PURE VAISNAVA, THEN KRSNA BECOMES REVEALED TO HIM. THEREFORE KRSNA’S NAME IS VASUDEVA. PURE STAGE OF LIFE IS CALLED VASUDEVA STAGE. JUST LIKE VASUDEVA WAS FATHER OF KRSNA. THAT MEANS WHEN ONE IS SITUATED IN THE VASUDEVA STAGE, SUDDHA-SATTVA, PURE GOODNESS, KRSNA IS BORN. KRSNA BORN MEANS KRSNA BECOMES VISIBLE, REVEALED. So this initiation process is gradually to raise a devotee to that platform.
SB 10.2.18 Prayers by the Demigods for Lord Krsna in the Womb
Thereafter, accompanied by plenary expansions, the fully opulent Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is all-auspicious for the entire universe, was TRANSFERRED FROM THE MIND OF VASUDEVA TO THE MIND OF DEVAKI. DEVAKI, HAVING THUS BEEN INITIATED BY VASUDEVA, BECAME BEAUTIFUL BY CARRYING LORD KRSNA, THE ORIGINAL CONSCIOUSNESS FOR EVERYONE, THE CAUSE OF ALL CAUSES, WITHIN THE CORE OF HER HEART, just as the east becomes beautiful by carrying the rising moon.
PURPORT
As indicated here by the word manastah, the Supreme Personality of Godhead was transferred from the core of Vasudeva’s mind or heart to the core of the heart of Devaki. We should note carefully that the Lord was transferred to Devaki not by the ordinary way for a human being, but by diksa, initiation. Thus the importance of initiation is mentioned here. UNLESS ONE IS INITIATED BY THE RIGHT PERSON, WHO ALWAYS CARRIES WITHIN HIS HEART THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD, ONE CANNOT ACQUIRE THE POWER TO CARRY THE SUPREME GODHEAD WITHIN THE CORE OF ONE’S OWN HEART.
Note:Srila Prabhupada is tattva-darsinah(seen Krsna by direct realization). Therefore he is able to **give** the holy name. The holy name is (pure devotee) Srila Prabhupada’s property to give.
ISKCONS GBC 2/3 majority votes “gurus” are not realized souls they CAN NOT TRANSMIT Krsna and his pastimes in anothers HEART. This is why all they performing is: ceremony of first and second initiations—but they want to be worshipped as God which is unacceptable!) Only(Srila Prabhupada as acarya) acarya is worshipped as good as God.
SB 5.15.4
The word anusasmara is very significant. God consciousness is not imaginary or concocted. The devotee who is pure and advanced realizes God as He is. Maharaja Pratiha did so, and due to his **direct realization of Lord Visnu**, he propagated self-realization and became a preacher. A real preacher cannot be bogus; he must first of all realize Lord Visnu as He is. As confirmed in Bhagavad-gita (4.34), upadeksyanti te jnanam jnaninas tattva-darsinah: “one who has seen the truth can impart knowledge.” The word tattva-darsi refers to one who has** perfectly realized** the Supreme personality of Godhead. Such a person can become a guru and propound Vaisnava philosophy all over the world.
ISKCON’S UNAUTHORISED 2/3 majority votes “guru” are C-H-E-A-T-I-N-G!. Infact they are also being cheated because they are losing the opportunity to become fully Krsna Consciousness.
SB 8.6.9
The Vedic mantras say: yasmin vijnate sarvam evam vijnatam bhavati. When the devotee **sees** the Supreme Personality of Godhead by his meditation, or when he **sees** the Lord personally, face to face, he becomes aware of everything within this universe. Indeed, nothing is unknown to him. Everything within this material world is fully manifested to a devotee who has** seen** the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Bhagavad-gita (4.34) therefore advises:
tad viddhi pranipatena
pariprasnena sevaya
upadeksyanti te jnanam
jnaninas tattva-darsinah
“Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized **soul** can impart knowledge unto you because **he** has seen the truth.”
Lord Brahma is one of these self-realized authorities (svayambhur naradah sambhuh kumarah kapilo manuh). One must therefore accept the disciplic succession from Lord Brahma, and then one can understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead **in fullness**. Here the word visva-murtau indicates that everything exists in the form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. One who is able to worship Him can see everything in Him and see Him in everything.
Srila Prabhupada is tattva-darsina therefore he is able to deliver Krsna —it is Srila Prabhupada that has realized **the science** of Krsna perfectly!
SB 10.3.14
“Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.” Vasudeva begot the Supreme Personality of Godhead, yet he was in full knowledge of how the Supreme Lord appears and disappears. He was therefore tattva-darsi, a seer of the truth, **because he personally saw** how the Supreme Absolute Truth appeared as his son.
Note: Pratyaksvagamam means direct perception—-Krsna is directly experienced—this is complete science—demonstration! Srila Prabhupada is this personality who is able to give the Holy name because he is well conversant with the science. Srila Prabhupada gives Diksa to the madhyama-adhikari.
Bg 9.2
raja-vidya raja-guhyam
pavitram idam uttamam
pratyaksavagamam dharmyam
su-sukham kartum avyayam
This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed.
Note:Joyfully performed—-when Srila Prabhupada gives diksa to the madhyama-adhikari because he has pleased Srila Prabhupada by offensless chanting, Krishna’s pastimes are also transmitted from Srila Prabhupada’s heart to Madhyam-adhikaris heart. This is Srila Prabhupada giving actual diksa. 2/3 majority votes “gurus” cannot do this! And because they want to cheat they are being cheated themselves with the what Srila Prabhupada has so vividly described in Isopanisad 12 after conducting their **spiritual master business** they are going to the lowest regions of hell.
Bg 9.2
The great devotees relished the taste of unceasing devotional service of the Lord, hearing, chanting, etc., and by developing the same taste, Narada wanted also to hear and chant the glories of the Lord. Thus by associating with the sages, he developed a great desire for devotional service. Therefore, he quotes from the Vedanta-sutra (prakasas ca karmany abhyasat): if one is engaged simply in the acts of devotional service, **everything is revealed to him automatically**, and he can understand. This is called **pratyaksa**, **directly perceived**.
Note: The opportunity to serve as honest Ritvik or defiant cheating pretender 2/3 majority votes “guru”: this is the only choice.
Diksa-guru( Srila Prabhupada) well conversant with Krishna science transmits diksa to madhyama-adhikari.
Madhya 8.128
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura also states that although one is situated as a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacari, vanaprastha, grhastha or sannyasi, if he is conversant in the science of Krsna he can become a spiritual master as vartma-pradarsaka-guru, diksa-guru or siksa-guru. The spiritual master who first gives information about spiritual life is called the vartma-pradarsaka-guru, the spiritual master who initiates according to the regulations of the sastras is called the diksa-guru, and the spiritual master who gives instructions for elevation is called the siksa-guru. Factually** the qualifications** of a spiritual master **depend on his knowledge of the science of Krsna**.
Diksa: transference of Krsna form PURE devotee’s heart to ANOTHER PURE DEVOTEES’s heart this is SCIENCE not theory. Bogus IS_CON and Gaudiya math “gurus” do not have Krsna TELEVISED in their hearts to transfer.
Note: There is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL to date provided by the deviant ISKCON “gurus” who reject July 9th 1977 directive from Srila Prabhupada that Srila Prabhupada can not give diksa to the generations of devotees. ALL they are concerned is with FORMALITY INITIATION which Srila Prabhupada says is NOT VERY IMPORTANT THING:
761016iv.cha Conversations
Interviewer: What is the procedure of the movement? Do you initiate yourself all the disciples or do your other disciples also do that?
Prabhupada: Well, initiation or no initiation, first thing is knowledge. (break) …knowledge. Initiation is formality. Just like you go to a school for knowledge, and admission is formality. That is not very important thing.
pamho agtACBSP,trayodasi ki jai
Thank you for posting this article by HDG ACBSP, yes it’s true SRILA PRABHUPADA is teaching us that our real business is SRI KRSNA, yas tv atma ratir eva syat( bg.3.17) HE was completely satisfied by HIS perfect knowledge coming from constant service since HIS previous lives but still HE took so many inconveniences to come in the western countries to rescue us because HE was and IS a para sukha sukhi para dukha dukhi HE could not tolerate to see the part and parcel of the complete om purnam adah purnam idam purnat purnam udacyate purnasya purnam adaya purnat eva vasyasate (sri isopanisad 1.1) to suffer, actually HE was suffering to see all the living entities as a divine creation of SRI KRSNA to suffer.
Unless we get this knowledge we can’t get prem puman artho mahan which is the goal of our lives. HE was happy HE was trying to make everyone happy through the pure bhakti yoga daily practice,we can see that in our society i mean people who forgot that we are eternal servants of SRI KRSNA get trapped in the bodily concept of life by keeping the good look externally even in old age but we are not these bodies therefore they are serving a bag full of flesh rubbish they are trying to be happy through all the contaminate substances coming out of the prison house in the form of bodies until one get completely disgusted by understanding the only and real purpose of this human form of life. Anyway it’s not the case that SRI KRSNA created the material bodies in that way, HE did it by purpose to make the wise people to understand that faster, it’s true that everyone has to pass through that because we came here for this but once we passed over that nasty experience we should given up what belong to SRI KRSNA by increasing our devotional service and not our senses gratification which can’t save us by bringing us to the complete degradation in different species of forms of life.
We are lucky with the super divine appearance of the most magnanimuous avatara SRI CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU because HE doesn’t look if one is out of caste. Actually SRI GAURANGA MAHAPRABHU helps the westerners sadhakas more then the smarta brahmanas who are very proud about their births but they do not have any bhakti toward the holy name they just do that to survive by cheating people as the actual guru hoaxers are doing nowadays in f-iskcon, there is not love as our guru maharaj showed us by saving thousand of millions condizioned souls through HIS pure bhakti yoga, and it’s useless to serve all these cheaters smarta brahmanas guru hoaxers etc…is better to serve SRILA PRABHUPADA this will help everyone alot without getting poisoned as already happened to many blinds devotees who are still supporting all these cheaters until they understand that they got cheated.
agtSP ys haribol