Conversation – June 9, 1976, Los Angeles
Ramesvara: Srila Prabhupada, we were painting one painting for the last volume of Seventh Canto which shows that Krishna is in the heart of all living entities. Now, the question came up whether Krishna…. Since Krishna is inside every atom, are there living entities in every atom? So I said that you had already answered that, that Krishna is never alone, so there must be some living entity within the atom. So then the question was: Is this atom one of the bodies, just like human body, and then gradually that living entity gets a higher body, higher body, or does he always remain inside the atom?
Prabhupada: Body does not develop. He changes body. Why don’t you understand this?
Ramesvara: He changes body.
Prabhupada: The motorcar does not develop. I change this motorcar to another.
Ramesvara: But that’s the question.
Prabhupada: That is Darwin’s theory. Motorcar is not developing to big motorcar. That is nonsense. Motorcar is motorcar, but I can change from this car to that car.
Hari-sauri: Yes, that’s what he was wondering, whether the spirit soul leaves the atom to take another higher body.
Prabhupada: Yes, it is always…. Transmigration means going on, simply changing.
Ramesvara: Is that counted as one of the 8,400,000 species? Is the atom counted among the different species?
Prabhupada: Atom is not manifested. May be one of the species, but the total is 8,400,000. What is the difference between the small atom and this body? The same thing, material. It’s very small; it is a little bigger. That’s all. And similarly, the universe is still bigger. After all, it is matter. [break] …prakrti. Andantara-stha-paramanu-cayantara-stham [Brahma-samhita 5.35].What is this? He’s standing on election? [break]
Ramesvara: It is written in the Chaitanya-caritamrta that when Lord Chaitanya entered this universe, the entire universe was blessed, or benefited. So I’m wondering how Lord Chaitanya’s movement is going on on other planets, other than this planet. Is there some organized sankirtana?
Prabhupada: Yes. How other planetary system is going on, you do not know, but we can guess it is going on like this. Anumana. Pratyaksa anumana. One thing is direct perception, another by guessing. Pratyaksa anumana and sabda and sruti, aitihya. There are so many evidences. Harer nama harer nama [Cc. Adi 17.21]. Sri krsna caitanya prabhu…
Ramesvara: Devotees once told me you said that the demigods like this movement very much so that they’re standing in line to take their birth in the Krishna consciousness movement.
Prabhupada: Yes. They like to come here on this planet. Just like you Krishna conscious men, you are very much enthusiastic to go to India. India has no material attraction, but why our men wanted to go to India in spite of so many difficulties? Similarly, in the higher planet, heavenly planet, they are so much engrossed with material happiness that there is no facility. But here there is facility, in this earth, Bhurloka. Bhogaisvarya-prasaktanam tayapahrta-cetasam [Bg. 2.44]. One who is too much attached to material convenience and everything, they have no opportunity for Krishna consciousness.
Compiled by Damaghosa Dasa (Seattle, USA)
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