Red Alert! Mayapur under Bengali siege!
Italian GBC hung over balcony.
http://iskcon.us/paul-pavamana-mccloud/mayapur-red-alert/
From Pavamana das: I just received this message from Joe Guarino (Jaya Gaura) who is in Mayapur right now:
“100 Bengalis assaulted a Chec devotee while he was recording the Italian GBC being assaulted yesterday along with 2 other devotees. They tried to get his camera. Some how he held on to it. The authorities are in possession of his video and the videos of 3 other devotees being assaulted. Hansarupa presented all the video evidence this morning. GBC is reviewing it now. We are on full Red alert. Please circulate this info Ambarish says he will pull out and take the Ford name with him if these things continue.”
Can’t take time to discuss the possibilities now too much going on. I’m just trying to get some of the facts out. Hansarupa, Ruci Sevana, and myself are in clear and present danger now yesterday the Bengalis we’re attempting to assault the GBC chairman Pragosh. Only our armed private security officers we’re able to protect him.”
More to follow.
Your servant, Pav
“Hansarupa, Ruchisevana and myself are in clear and present danger of being assaulted or killed at any time. But so are any other foreign devotees that get in the way of the local Bengali thugs.” Jaya Gaura assures me this is 100% accurate. It is 12:30am here in San Diego.
Jaya says that the Indian Army may be called if there is no resolution made quickly. He will call the Home Ministry office of the central government and the prime minister if there is more trouble.
More: “It is not okay to come. Some devotee’s have been beaten fortunately not badly I could’ve very easily went the other way. The Bengalis we’re hanging the Italian GBC over the second floor balcony at the guesthouse threatening to throw him over”.
From Pavamana das: This was from my friend Jaya Gaura (Joe Guarino), who is in Mayapur. He’s been with Praghosh for the past days while all this has gone on. They were hiding out, expecting more trouble. He messaged me that they are ok now. At least for the while. He messaged me the information which I posted on my page, so there’s no interpretation or compilation.
You have to understand that these devotees have been investigating wrongdoing for months, and practically have a bull’seye on their backs, so it’s super-dangerous for them. Hansa Rupa had left, due to threats, and the others were hiding, armed, waiting to see if more trouble was going to come. There was a protest scheduled for Monday, which I don’t know if it happened. If things got out of hand, they were prepared to call for real firepower from the Indian government.
The problems that exist there have been going on for a very long time, and there’s more to the situation than meets the eye. Whether it’s safe or not, no one can say with certainty. The GBC has issued a statement, which is an overview of the situation that in my opinion is not the whole story, and tends to try to defuse the situation and make things look ok. Things may seem fine to the casual observer, but know that there are some very serious issues that have existed for decades and not been addressed until now. And will likely be ongoing for a long time to come.
Pray to Sri Sri Radha-Madhava, Pancha Tattva and Lord Narasinghadeva for Their help.
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Mutiny in Mayapura – Update
URGENT MESSAGE TO ALL OF SRILA PRABHUPADA’S DISCIPLES IN MAYAPUR .
(I have just received this message from Mayapur at my time 8:45 EST and have been asked to post this re. an emergency meeting)
The local management in Mayapur has decided to mutiny against the GBC decision and have created a new managerial body to assume control over Mayapur. They have removed Praghosa as the chairman of the GBC of Mayapur and created a new body comprising as JPS, BCS, GKG, PBS, and Hrydaya Chaitanya das (SDG) as the new Mayapur Governing Board to replace the GBC of Mayapur, which is against the GBC decision just taken.
This meeting is for SP’s disciples and other leaders in Mayapur to give the truth of what happened in the GBC meetings, what lead up to this mutiny, etc.
it is in defiance of the other meeting that is being held this evening by this new MGB which will present the lies that had them mutiny against the GBC vote for Mayapur.
The MAYAPUR GOVERNING BOARD’s intention is that it will replace the GBC of Mayapur.
it is an URGENT meeting to give the history and background to the meeting that the MGB are holding tonight. It will give the truth as to why they have chosen to go against the GBC’s decision. Devotees didn’t think it would turn into an out-right mutiny against the GBC.
There will be a meeting this morning for all SP disciples and other senior devotees interested to attend.
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From: Mahasrnga dasa, Thu, Mar 10, 2016 – Mayapur
As of yesterday: The Bureau took the GBC to task and said they were the problem not the solution. Dioram spoke strongly saying they couldn’t even control their own people, Pragosh, and could also not identify he was the problem. Pragosh continues his asinine tantrums and his embarrassment to the boys club. The GBC agreed to let the Bureau run India although there are a few GBC’s on the board. Bhima didn’t even show up but Basu Gosh, JPS and BCS also spoke strongly. Seems they’ve removed the Directors & co directors, dissolved the “investigation team” and are looking into all accounts from the TOVP to the Pizza shop. No reports of anyone being stabbed. Mahasrnga dasa
Jaya says that the Indian Army may be called if there is no resolution made quickly. He will call the Home Ministry office of the central government and the prime minister if there is more trouble.
More: “It is not okay to come. Some devotee’s have been beaten fortunately not badly I could’ve very easily went the other way. The Bengalis we’re hanging the Italian GBC over the second floor balcony at the guesthouse threatening to throw him over”.
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Mahesh: The bogus Anti Ritvik GBC CON men and their bogus “gurus” should learn a lesson that their MONEY SCREWING SLAVERY MAKING days there are OVER.
ASSUMING that threat of the Army from Jaya – EVEN IF the Army WAS called in they will NOT stay there forever. The Bengalis are NOT that stupid – they KNOW THIS that Army is not going to stay there forever. The situation can ONLY GET WORSE. THAT is the REALITY now. IF these Bengalis get hurt THEN they WILL take REVENGE it is ONLY a question of TIME. They WILL REMEMBER. They will NOT let go. They KNOW that these Anti Ritvik CON men are NOT Sadhus and they WILL deal with them accordingly.
The ONLY POSITIVE way now is ACCEPT the Ritvik System and Srila Prabhupada as Diksa Guru:
Srila Prabhupada IS Diksa Guru
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43094#more-43094
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Only Maha-Bhagavata is Diksa Guru
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=41422#more-41422
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Srila Prabhupada THE ONLY CURRENT ETERNAL DIKSA GURU for ISKCON for AS LONG AS ISKCON EXISTS – NO COMPROMISE!
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=44113#more-44113
Hare Krsna Mahesh R. Prabhu.
I would like to ask you.
You write: „The ONLY POSITIVE way now is ACCEPT the Ritvik System and Srila Prabhupada as Diksa Guru „
My question.
Why should the bogus Anti Ritvik GBC CON men and their bogus “gurus” ACCEPT the Ritvik System and Srila Prabhupada as Diksa Guru?
They betrayed Srila Prabhupada and cheated many-many sincere souls. If they had wanted to accept Srila Prabhupada they would have done that.
Why should you allow they ” accept the lesser of two evils”? A honest soul shows deep repent and he retires. I may forgive a such man maybe but I would NEVER trust him.
Hare Krsna,
ys marica
marica: My question. Why should the bogus Anti Ritvik GBC CON men and their bogus “gurus” ACCEPT the Ritvik System and Srila Prabhupada as Diksa Guru?
Mahesh: you say, “They betrayed Srila Prabhupada and cheated many-many sincere souls”. YES! this is a FACT! So NOW it is BEST if they REPENT their actions SINCERELY and SERIOUSLY— and do the HONEST thing. OTHERWISE they are DOOMED. For their PUNISHMENT they will FORCED to accept LOWER forms in the bodies of SERPENTS, WORMS:
KB 64 The Story of King Nrga
Lord Krsna continued: “If some foolish king who is puffed up by his wealth, prestige and power wants to usurp a brahmana’s property, it should be understood that such a king is clearing his path to hell; he does not know how much he has to suffer for such unwise action. If someone takes away the property of a very liberal brahmana who is encumbered by a large dependent family, then such a usurper is put into the hell known as Kumbhipaka; not only is he put into this hell, but his family members also have to accept such a miserable condition of life. A PERSON WHO TAKES AWAY PROPERTY WHICH HAS EITHER BEEN AWARDED TO A BRAHMANA OR GIVEN AWAY BY HIM IS CONDEMNED TO LIVE FOR AT LEAST 60,000 YEARS AS MISERABLY AS AN INSECT IN STOOL. Therefore I instruct you, all My boys and relatives present here, do not, even by mistake, take the possession of a brahmana and thereby pollute your whole family. IF SOMEONE EVEN WISHES TO POSSESS SUCH PROPERTY, LET ALONE ATTEMPTS TO TAKE IT AWAY BY FORCE, THE DURATION OF HIS LIFE WILL BE REDUCED. HE WILL BE DEFEATED BY HIS ENEMIES, AND AFTER BEING BEREFT OF HIS ROYAL POSITION, WHEN HE GIVES UP HIS BODY HE WILL BECOME A SERPENT. A serpant gives trouble to all other living entities. My dear boys and relatives, I therefore advise you that even if a brahmana becomes angry with you and calls you by ill names or cuts you, still you should not retaliate. On the contrary, you should smile, tolerate him and offer your respects to the brahmana. You know very well that even I Myself offer My obeisances to the brahmanas with great respect three times daily. You should therefore follow My instruction and example. I shall not forgive anyone who does not follow them, and I shall punish him. You should learn from the example of King Nrga that even if someone unknowingly usurps the property of a brahmana, he is put into a miserable condition of life.”
Marica: I may forgive a such man maybe but I would NEVER trust him.
Mahesh: We have learned the lesson – so we can NOT trust them. Once bitten twice shy. However, it is up to these individuals to RECTIFY in order to SAVE themselves. BUT – will they accept the Ritvik System and Srila Prabhupada as Diksa Guru? I very much doubt it – BECAUSE they are DEMONS:
A DEMON NEVER CARES FOR ANY GOOD INSTRUCTION. HE IS JUST LIKE A DETERMINED THIEF; ONE CAN GIVE HIM MORAL INSTRUCTION, BUT IT WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVE. SIMILARLY, THOSE WHO ARE DEMONIAC OR ATHEISTIC BY NATURE CAN HARDLY ASSIMILATE ANY GOOD INSTRUCTION, HOWEVER AUTHORIZED IT MAY BE.
KB 1 Advent of Lord Krsna
Vasudeva tried to pacify Kamsa by good instruction as well as by philosophical discrimination, but Kamsa was not to be pacified because his association was demoniac. Because of his demoniac associations, he was always a demon, although born in a very high royal family. A DEMON NEVER CARES FOR ANY GOOD INSTRUCTION. HE IS JUST LIKE A DETERMINED THIEF; ONE CAN GIVE HIM MORAL INSTRUCTION, BUT IT WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVE. SIMILARLY, THOSE WHO ARE DEMONIAC OR ATHEISTIC BY NATURE CAN HARDLY ASSIMILATE ANY GOOD INSTRUCTION, HOWEVER AUTHORIZED IT MAY BE. That is the difference between demigod and demon. Those who can accept good instruction and try to live their lives in that way are called demigods, and those who are unable to take such good instruction are called demons. Failing in his attempt to pacify Kamsa, Vasudeva wondered how he would protect his wife Devaki. When there is imminent danger, an intelligent person should try to avoid the dangerous position as far as possible. But if, in spite of endeavoring by all intelligence, one fails to avoid the dangerous position, there is no fault on his part. One should try his best to execute his duties, but if the attempt fails, he is not at fault.
Here is more info. of the DESTINY of these demons:
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=44093#more-44093
We do not expect ALL these DEMONS to change BUT it is POSSIBLE for some SINCERE and SERIOUS soul. If they become SINCERE and SERIOUS they have a CHANCE. They have to REGRET their IMPIOUS actions and SERVE Srila Prabhupada SINCERELY and SERIOUSLY. Srila Prabhupada CAN help if one is SINCERE and SERIOUS:
SB 4.30.41 P The Activities of the Pracetas
If one SERIOUSLY accepts the lotus feet of the Lord, he is purified by the grace of the Lord and by the grace of the Lord’s servant. This is confirmed by Sukadeva Gosvami: ye ‘nye ca papa yad-apasrayasrayah sudhyanti tasmai prabhavisnave namah (Bhag. 2.4.18). ONE WHO IS BROUGHT UNDER THE LOTUS FEET OF THE LORD BY THE ENDEAVOR OF THE LORD’S SERVANT, THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, IS CERTAINLY IMMEDIATELY PURIFIED, HOWEVER LOWBORN HE MAY BE. HE BECOMES ELIGIBLE TO RETURN HOME, BACK TO GODHEAD.
Hare Krsna Mahesh R. Prabhu.
In your opinion what did Hansadutta das ( ex-guru ) do? Is he a sincere and serious soul? I do not know this.
Hare Krsna,
ys marica
Marica:In your opinion what did Hansadutta das ( ex-guru ) do? Is he a sincere and serious soul? I do not know this.
Mahesh: Hare Krsna! Hansadutta das (ex-guru) DID take up Ritvik Instruction. This was a VERY good move. Accepted. He is very much for Srila Prabhupada’s Original Books – this is VERY good. He has done in past some BRILLIANT service for Srila Prabhupada on that field also. The PROBLEM however is, Hansadutta Prabhu has to let go of his OWN CONCOCTED opinions:
IRM gives an elaborate picture of Hansadutta:
http://www.iskconirm.com/docs/pdf/Hans.pdf
Another problem with Hansadutta I read on internet is he does NOT accept that Srila Prabhupada was given poison to kill him. This is being DISHONEST. Brahmana means HONEST. Ritvik is supposed to be a Brahmana WITH Brahmanical QUALITIES particularly HONESTY:
Brahmana (Kanistha)
http://harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/03-09/editorials4258.htm
We have AMPLE evidence to support that Srila Prabhupada was given poison TO KILL HIM:
Srila Prabhupada poisoned:
The following sites has whispers of the poison givers:
To hear the whole CD of the Nov 10 1977 Conversations from beginning to end, please click here or
http://www.mediafire.com/?ppvh77orok1r7vh
And for Individual highlighted louder version of the whole CD , please go to
http://www.culturedbooks.com/audio/audio-address.html
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Srila Prabhupada Given Poison:
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42549#comment-29598
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42564#more-42564
easy to fake whispers…
NOT so easy to fake whispers NOW because the sound technology is VERY HIGHLY ADVANCED so one CAN hear VERY CLEAR who is who. PLUS—- we KNOW who they ALL are in the room WITH Srila Prabhupada as more 1977 mp3s have come out.
Hare Krsna Mahesh Raja Prabhu.
Thank you for your answers. I have got one more question.
Will be the door opened in front of every bogus guru ( Jayapataka, Radanath, Jayadvaita, Bhavananda, Paramadvaiti, …and so on) if they say they repent their actions?
Hare Krsna,
ys marica
It is clear that more and more devotes wake up and realize, that they GBC are demons and there not welcome anymore, i am sorry but I feel short of happiness,, but I wander witch direction there going to take ,, I praying to our beloved and eternal savior Srila gurudeva Prabhupada that manifest his mercy and illuminate all this devotees and take the rigth way and bring back Srila Prabhupada as the only Diksa and siksa guru!!!
Jamadagni dasa
marica: Will be the door opened in front of every bogus guru ( Jayapataka, Radanath, Jayadvaita, Bhavananda, Paramadvaiti, …and so on) if they say they repent their actions?
Mahesh: ONLY the SINCERE and SERIOUS can ACTUALLY repent for their past misdeeds. That regret remorse for wrong doings against Srila Prabhupada and the devotees has to come from their HEART. Not superficial PRETENCE show for the public. These people will NEVER repent SINCERELY – their egos are TOO big. Their “repent” would be for for up-keep of SUPERFICIAL public show how “humble” they are. They will NOT accept the Ritvik System and Srila Prabhupada as the ONLY Diksa guru of ISKCON nor will they accept Direction of Management (1970).
Note: DOOR IS OPEN for those who are SERIOUS AND SINCERE in devotional service THEIR punishment for PAST DEEDS is MINIMIZED:
730417SB.LA Lectures
Just like a token punishment. Sometimes in the courts a big man is culprit. So say, if the judge wants 100,000 dollars, he can pay immediately. But he asks from Him: “You just give one cent.” Because that is also punishment. But minimizing. SIMILARLY WE HAVE TO SUFFER ON ACCOUNT OF OUR PAST DEEDS. THAT’S A FACT. YOU CANNOT AVOID. KARMANI NIRDAHATI KINTU CA BHAKTI-BHAJAM. BUT THOSE WHO ARE IN DEVOTIONAL SERVICE, THOSE WHO ARE IN KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS, THEIR SUFFERINGS ARE MINIMIZED, A TOKEN. JUST LIKE ONE WAS TO BE KILLED. SO INSTEAD OF BEING KILLED WITH HIS KNIFE, HE GETS SOME LITTLE CUT ON THE FINGER. IN THIS WAY, KARMANI NIRDAHATI KINTU CA…
Note: AS FAR AS SALVATION IS CONCERNED, ONE HAS TO CONQUER THE PRINCIPLES OF LUST, ANGER, UNLAWFUL DESIRES, AVARICE AND BEWILDERMENT.
SB 1.9.27 P The Passing Away of Bhismadeva in the Presence of Lord Krsna
AS FAR AS SALVATION IS CONCERNED, ONE HAS TO CONQUER THE PRINCIPLES OF LUST, ANGER, UNLAWFUL DESIRES, AVARICE AND BEWILDERMENT. To get freedom from anger, one should learn how to forgive. To be free from unlawful desires one should not make plans. By spiritual culture one is able to conquer sleep. By tolerance only can one conquer desires and avarice. Disturbances from various diseases can be avoided by regulated diets. By self-control one can be free from false hopes, and money can be saved by avoiding undesirable association. By practice of yoga one can control hunger, and worldliness can be avoided by culturing the knowledge of impermanence. Dizziness can be conquered by rising up, and false arguments can be conquered by factual ascertainment. Talkativeness can be avoided by gravity and silence, and by prowess one can avoid fearfulness. Perfect knowledge can be obtained by self-cultivation. One MUST be free from lust, avarice, anger, dreaming, etc., to actually attain the path of salvation.
As far as the women class are concerned, they are accepted as a power of inspiration for men. As such, women are more powerful than men. Mighty Julius Caesar was controlled by a Cleopatra. Such powerful women are controlled by shyness. Therefore, shyness is important for women. Once this control valve is loosened, women can create havoc in society by adultery. Adultery means production of unwanted children known as varna-sankara, who disturb the world.
pamho agtACBSP, padam padam yad vipadam at any step there is danger in this polluted material world and if one can’t keep safe even in the temples who are suppose to be embassy of vaikunta it means that f-iskcon is in serious trouble for all the offences that they are still keeping doing to our beloved acharya HDG ACBSP,there is not other answer to this calamities in the fake reflection of iskcon i hope they kill all the stink guru hoaxers agtSP ys haribol
pamho agtACBSP, there is not question to feel sorry we should feel sorry for SRILA PRABHUPADA who is victim of robbery since HIS first day of physical disappearance,this is the proof also that only HDG ACSBP must be worshiped in iskcon otherwise all these calamities in f-iskcon never finish,i know also the italian gbc who is been hung over the balcony it’s a kangooru too that’s why they can’t escape to pay the consequences one must be free and must know his svarupa murti too to be a genuine guru as our guru maharaj agtSP ys haribol
“My success is always there. Yes. Just like the sun is there always. It may come before your vision or not — the sun is there. But if you are fortunate, you come before the sun. Otherwise, you remain in darkness. The sun is open to everyone. Our Krishna consciousness movement, Krishna, is open to everyone. But if you are fortunate, you come to the light. If you are unfortunate, you do not. That is your choice.”
(Srila Prabhupada Conversation, February 12,1975, Mexico City)
pamho agtACBSP agtSBSTP AVIRBHAVA MAHOTSAVA KI JAI,another proof and reason of this local siege in SRI MAYAPUR DHAM is that one should never offend SRI SRI GURU&GAURANGA intentionally as all the fake gurus and fake disciples are keeping doing because if one offend THEM one have not place anymore to take shelter by betraying our best SUHRIT SATAM even the temples are unsafe and one become shelterless and safeless,therefore this siege by the local citizens who are not ordinary people i mean they are also vrja basi therefore they are connected with SRI SRI GURU&GAURANGA and the aparadha of THEIR aparadhis criminals,the matter here materially look in the opposite side but f-iskcon is the gunda and the local siege is sent by SRI SRI GURU&GAURANGA to make the offenders of f-iskcon to understand once for all that only SRILA PRABHUPADA must be worship in iskcon because all these continuos calamities is caused by all the stink guru hoaxers,agtSP ys haribol