“I have seen quite a bit of things Prabhupada said out of context and things like that
on youtube etc. I can’t watch for very long once I notice that they are misunderstanding
Prabhupada and trying to defame him based on the faulty logic of modern materialism etc.”
Be aware of the The blaspheming of Srila Prabhupada
By Padmagarbha Das
I just posted this on facebook, and for those of you on my e-mail list, and who may not get to see this faceboof posting, I want to urge you to pass this on to others who may have some connection to this scum (Prem Nidhi dasa), now, or in the future!
Yesterday, on facebook, in an exchange of ideas regarding the origin of the Jiva a creature who goes by the name of ‘Prem Nidhi dasa’ joined into the debate and gave his opinion. As a part of his many comments he wrote a very lengthy and exceptional ugly denouncement of His Divine Grace, Srila Prahupada. I will not subject anybody to the painful experience of having to read this blasphemous letter [I actually couldn’t as I deleted it “forever”]. Reading this demons very long and most vile description of Srila Prahupada resulted in me having a most restless night, filled with thoughts of violence towards this big demon.
The reason for my writing is to request and urge ALL those of you who have any appreciation for Srila Prabhupada to fully disassociate [un-friend] themselves from this vilest of beings (Prem Nidhi dasa).
If anyone wishes to read this blasphemy [and I strongly urge you not to!] you can contact either Vadiraja prabhu, or Caitanya Priya dasa, they both participated in the ‘debate’, and they may still have it on their computer.
“I do not want to see the faces of vile persons who criticize my Gurudeva, or who support those who criticize him. They are the cause of all in-auspiciousness”. [Srila Bhaktisiddhanta]
I pray that ALL misfortune befalls on this person, in this life , and in many, many millions of birth to come!
Everybody, kindly re-post this letter, this creature needs to be shunned by ALL !
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“If the man who blasphemed Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is killed, his sinful action may be atoned.”
PURPORT: The Hari-bhakti-vilāsa cites the following quotation from Skanda Purāṇa concerning the blaspheming of a Vaiṣṇava:
yo hi bhāgavataṁ lokam / upahāsaṁ nṛpottama
karoti tasya naśyanti / artha-dharma-yaśaḥ-sutāḥ
nindāṁ kurvanti ye mūḍhā / vaiṣṇavānāṁ mahātmanām
patanti pitṛbhiḥ sārdhaṁ / mahā-raurava-saṁjñite
hanti nindati vai dveṣṭi / vaiṣṇavān nābhinandati
krudhyate yāti no harṣaṁ / darśane patanāni ṣaṭ
In this conversation between Mārkaṇḍeya and Bhagīratha, it is said: “My dear King, if one derides an exalted devotee, he loses the results of his pious activities, his opulence, his reputation and his sons. Vaiṣṇavas are all great souls. Whoever blasphemes them falls down to the hell known as Mahāraurava. He is also accompanied by his forefathers. Whoever kills or blasphemes a Vaiṣṇava and whoever is envious of a Vaiṣṇava or angry with him, or whoever does not offer him obeisances or feel joy upon seeing a Vaiṣṇava, certainly falls into a hellish condition.”
The Hari-bhakti-vilāsa (10.314) also gives the following quotation from Dvārakā-māhātmya:
kara-patraiś ca phālyante / sutīvrair yama-śāsanaiḥ
nindāṁ kurvanti ye pāpā / vaiṣṇavānāṁ mahātmanām
In a conversation between Prahlāda Mahārāja and Bali Mahārāja, it is said, “Those sinful people who blaspheme Vaiṣṇavas, who are all great souls, are subjected very severely to the punishment offered by Yamarāja.”
In the Bhakti-sandarbha (313) there is a statement concerning the blaspheming of Lord Viṣṇu.
ye nindanti hṛṣīkeśaṁ / tad-bhaktaṁ puṇya-rūpiṇam
śata-janmārjitaṁ puṇyaṁ / teṣāṁ naśyati niścitam
te pacyante mahā-ghore / kumbhīpāke bhayānake
bhakṣitāḥ kīṭa-saṅghena / yāvac candra-divākarau
śrī-viṣṇor avamānanād / gurutaraṁ śrī-vaiṣṇavollaṅghanam
tadīya-dūṣaka-janān / na paśyet puruṣādhamān
taiḥ sārdhaṁ vañcaka-janaiḥ / saha-vāsaṁ na kārayet
“One who criticizes Lord Viṣṇu and His devotees loses all the benefits accrued in a hundred pious births. Such a person rots in the Kumbhīpāka hell and is bitten by worms as long as the sun and moon exist. One should therefore not even see the face of a person who blasphemes Lord Viṣṇu and His devotees. Never try to associate with such persons.”
In his Bhakti-sandarbha (265), Jīva Gosvāmī further quotes from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (10.74.40):
nindāṁ bhagavataḥ śṛṇvan / tat-parasya janasya vā
tato nāpaiti yaḥ so ‘pi / yāty adhaḥ sukṛtāc cyutaḥ
“If one does not immediately leave upon hearing the Lord or the Lord’s devotee blasphemed, he falls down from devotional service.” Similarly, Lord Śiva’s wife Satī states in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (4.4.17):
karṇau pidhāya nirayād yad akalpa īśe / dharmāvitary asṛṇibhir nṛbhir asyamāne
chindyāt prasahya ruśatīm asatīṁ prabhuś cej / jihvām asūn api tato visṛjet sa dharmaḥ
“If one hears an irresponsible person blaspheme the master and controller of religion, he should block his ears and go away if unable to punish him. But if one is able to kill, then one should by force cut out the blasphemer’s tongue and kill the offender, and after that he should give up his own life.”
Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta – 1975 Edition : Cc. Madhya-lila : Madhya 15: The Lord Accepts Prasada at the House of Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya : Madhya 15.261
Padmagarbha Das Prabhu writes ; ” ….. in an exchange of ideas regarding the origin of the Jiva ……… “.
Is the Jiva not ETERNAL who has no beginning, no end, no birth, no death being part and parcel of All Mighty, the Supreme Personality Shri Krishna as per the revealed Scripture ?
Why anybody with the right mind should get into a debate with an insane person such as Prem Nidhi dasa who can not establish and make his point as per Sadhu, Sastras and the Guru at the first place ?
I am just curious to know what is the question with regard to the debate about the Origin of the Jiva, Prabhu ?
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.