Mayesvara das aka William Roberts
“Mostly he (Mayesvara) makes up things which are out of
the blue, or he twists things around, or just doesn’t get things right.“
It is clear this is another devious, deceitful, dishonest attempt to obscure the facts as
they are by portraying them as they are not, and is meant simply to cause doubts.
Please read article from 2017: In reply to Mayesvara Prabhu’s response
The Day William Roberts (Mayesvara) Poisoned Srila Prabhupada
Mayesvara (William Roberts) from American Vedic Association and business entrepreneur of Jagannatha Enterprises cashes in on Srila Prabhupadas poisoning with his book of grand deception, spamming the emails of thousands of devotees.
With his book of deception Mayesvara (William Roberts) tries to oppose Srila Prabhupadas statement, that poison was given to him by his own (seinor) disciples. No wonder Iskcon goes to hell with such demoniac people, opposing their own guru.
A true Prabhupada folllower does NOT need any so called evidence fron any one, except Srila Prabhupadas own words, which are recorded on audio tape:
WAS SRILA PABHUPADA POISONED?
The question whether Srila Prabhupada was poisoned by arsenic is NOT a question of speculation or argumentation. Srila Prabhupada Himself, (by Himself on tape) says, that he has been poisoned:
Prabhupada: Don’t move me to the hospital. Better kill me here.
Swarupa Damodar: We won’t Srila Prabhupada
Bhavananda: Never
Prabhupada: But if you are disgusted, that is another thing.
[Room Conversation, Oct 22, 1977, Vrindavana]
Prabhupada: [after taking the medicine] “I am puzzled. In this condition I do not wish to live. In this way it is not desirable to remain, every day a crisis.” [Room Conversation, Oct 26, 1977, Vrindavana]
Prabhupada: “This is my only request, that at the last stage don’t torture me and put me to death. So I am not eating anything, and if we chant, by batches chant, I’ll hear.” [Room Conversation, Nov 3, 1977, Vrindavana]
Prabhupada: Someone says that I’ve been poisoned. It is possible.
Kaviraja (doctor): What is he saying?
Prabhupada: Someone says that someone has given poison.
Kaviraja: To whom?
Prabhupada: To me.
Kaviraja: Who said?
Prabhupada: These all friends
Kaviraja: Who would give you poison? Why would anyone do that?
Prabhupada: I do not know, but it is said.
Kaviraja: Look, this is the thing, that maybe some rakshasa (demon) gave him poison.
Bhakti-caru: Someone gave him poison here.
Tamal Krsna: Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him.
Bhakti-caru:Yes!!!
Tamal Krsna: That was the mental distress.
Bhakti-caru:Yes!!!
Kaviraja: If he says that, there must definitely be some truth in it.
Tamal Krsna: What did Kaviraja just say?
Bhakti-caru: He said that when Srila Prabhupada was saying that, there must be some truth behind it.
Tamal Krsna: Tssh.
[Recorded Room Conversation, Nov 9-10, 1977, Vrindavana]
Note: Srila Prabhupada is complaining here Himself, that He is being TORTURED AND POISONED “TO DEATH” BY HIS DEVIOUS DISCIPLES AND THIS IS AGAIN CONFIRMED:
CONFIRMATION OF SRILA PRABHUPADA’S POISONING
Bhakticaru: Someone gave him poison here.
Tamala Krsna: Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him. [(((audio)))]
Bhakticaru: YES!!!
Tamala Krsna: That was the mental distress. [(((audio)))]
Bhakticaru: YES!!!
Kaviraja: If he says that, there must definitely be some truth to it. (Hindi) [(((audio)))]
Tamala Krsna: What did Kaviraja just say?
Bhakticaru: He said that when Srila Prabhupada was saying that (he is poisoned) there must be something truth behind it.
Tamala Krsna: Sssss!
Srila Prabhupada’s own words, stating that his poisoning is possible, is the strongest possible evidence, since these are the words of the acharya. Such directly revealed evidence is conclusive since it is beyond the four defects. Even supposedly water-tight forensic evidence has to take second place to the words of the acharya. Any sincere disciple of Srila Prabhupada will believe in His words.
Any sincere disciple and follower of Srila Prabhupada will accept His complaint of being poisoned and try to find out the poisoners. Why a guru has to beg his disciples not to torture him to death is another inconceivable question. We only can guess that these so called devious torturing disciples are so bad, as to cause such a horrible statement of the guru, who helplessly has to beg for His life:
Srila Prabhupada: “my only request is , that at the last stage don’t torture me, and put me to death” (from SPC Vol. 36, November 3, 1977 tape recorded Room Conversation)
WE ALL KNOW NOW WHO GAVE POISON TO SRILA PRABHUPADA
Kaviraja: speaks in Hindi…..
Tamala Krsna: Put poison in different containers. That’s all right.
Audio Clip in MP3 Format 
This is not a whisper – these words are clearly audible, spoken by Tamal Krsna. It is interesting to note that even though the transcription of this section of the audio tape was transcribed into the BBT Folio, this sentence was omitted. Why was this sentence omitted? How will BBT / Bhaktivedanta Archives officials explain this mystery?
Tamal Krsna, Bhakticaru, Jayapataka and Bhavananda were obviously dominating over the conversations at the time. Srila Prabhupada was 80 years of age, his body was skin and bones, he could hardly speak. On the other hand Tamal Krsna, Jayapataka, Bhavananda, Jayadvaita, Bhakti Charu, Giriraj were about 30 years of age. To solicit such a response from their own spiritual master to not torture him and ‘put to death’ is nerve racking to say the least. Their behavior is typical of people with a psychopathic nature and demoniac consciousness.
– Mayesvara Fails Challenge – pdf
– Mayesvara’s Aim Is Maya – pdf
– Mayesvara Aims At Will – pdf
– The M-Files – pdf
– An Overview of ‘Dual System’ Reasoning – pdf
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/prabhupada-poisoned-overview.html
THE POISON ISSUE IS 100% FACTUAL
SRILA PRABHUPADA TO COMMIT SUICIDE
[BIF Investigation report about The Poison Issue]
[BIF Investigation report about Jayapataka’s cover-up]
[BIF Investigation report about Bhavananda-Tamal’s cover-up]
[BIF Investigation report about Bhakticaru’s cover-up]
[VNN AUDIO FILES]
[Poison Whispers and MP3 Audio Files]
The poison transcript with MP3 audio files to hear
Krishna Killers—The Danger of Deranged Devotion
KILL GURU, BECOME GURU: NEW VIDEO
THE FORENSICS BREAKTHROUGH
VALIDITY AND ACCURACY OF HAIR ANALYSIS
RESPONSE TO MAYESWARA’s POISON ‘ANTIDOTE’ – None so blind as those who will not see
Srila Prabhupada poisoned:
The following sites has whispers of the poison givers:
To hear the whole CD of the Nov 10 1977 Conversations from beginning to end, please click:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ppvh77orok1r7vh
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Srila Prabhupada Given Poison:
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/whispers.htm
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/pada.htm
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42549#comment-29598
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42564#more-42564
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=46843#more-46843
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/poison-whispers.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIBqNBMbPvY&t=316s
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47921
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47931
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821#comments
How to understand the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada’s body and his disappearance?
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47943
Mudhasvara (Flat Head Bill) is a dis-information agent (probably CIA). His retarded brain is like a “Parallel Universe”, like a coconut, half-filled with water, the remainder consisting of a ‘vacuous void’. He should strap himself to an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile so his tiny brain can see how the Earth is spherical, just like that dick-head a few weeks ago who built his own “rocket”……… HIS FLAT EARTH PSYOP, CRASHING BACK DOWN TO EARTH!
Anyone who would “SELL-OUT” Srila Prabhupada, would sell-out his own mother as well! What a low-life piece of filth!
Mudhasvara Das (the perfect ”covert dis-info candidate!”).
Mudhasvara Das………..”From January 1987 I held a ‘SECRET CLEARANCE’ with The Department of Defense and was employed as a database engineer for the United States Navy, at the Port Hueneme Division of The Naval Surface Warfare Center”
” Ones’ Intelligent who is wrap around grossly in the mode of Ignorance mixed with the passion of what one does best to satisfy personal whims can not penetrate in the components of the analytical department of the Intelligence and Mind when it is under the strong influence of ones’ false ego. ”
Therefore, one can not distinguish between the REALITY and the NON-REALITY that exists as it is .
By the way Sudarsana Prabhu, Is this Mayesvara das aka William Roberts the same person as of FLAT EARTH Mayesvara das or are they two different people ?
This Mayesvara das aka William Roberts talks very PERVERTEDLY in the following video ;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA-CzGs8XfA
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Wow! two disinformation agents called Mayesvara das. I must be seeing double! Yes, I think you are right.
The FLAT EARTHER is a different Mayesvara Das (from Belfast). Adds to the confusion a bit!
There are several other devotees called Sudarsana Das also. Those poor guys must be really copping it!
This Mayesvara das aka William Roberts from American Vedic Association and business entrepreneur of Jagannatha Enterprises, is NOT the same person as the “FLAT EARTH Mayesvara”. There are two different Mayesvara’s and they are two different people.
Great ! Pariksit das for the clarification. Thank you, Prabhu.
Now another questions arise in my mind which need answers from you, Prabhu.
Is Pariksit das and Mayesvara das the same person as the ” FLAT EARTH , Mayesvara ” ?
OR
Is Pariksit das different person ?
If you are different person,indeed, then, are you part of the ” FLAT EARTH, Mayesvara das ” team who propagate FLAT EARTH with the twisted and turned explanation in the Flat Earth misleading theory by Mayesvara das presentation ?
Your TRUTHFULLY clarification is appreciated for which I offer my best thanks in advance.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Excellent title and article/comments regarding another cover-up by the corrupt & ignorant GBC
after a 3 year delay response to the truth, “Kill guru become guru”.
William Roberts worked for the Military industrial machine (secret clearance)
that controls the planet,
before he speaks they show military rockets flying into space.
Than we have another speaker named Peter Greer
of the military industrial control police speaking on NO proof of poisoning.
When he is introduce, they show pictures of police in military gear beating the citizens.
Its a known fact that ISKCON was infuriated by many governments secret police and agents,
many in Vaishnava dress with Tilak taking over control and top leadership positions in ISKCON
(you expect the pot washer?).
Our Srila Prabhupada left his body in the battlefield , planned by these agents of Kali
Watching this GBC sanctioned video makes you think, why don’t they just test
the “tooth and hair” samples they have and give us the results?
Instead more propaganda by paid hollywood actors and the agents of Kali.
How stupid are the sheeple controlled by ISKCON who believe this?
Perhaps I can help clarify at least some of the confusion of your readers. I am the author of DECEPTION and the producer of the movie with the same name. I do not share the opinions about the flat earth that have been published by the OTHER Mayesvara This is clearly explained in the following article.
Balls or Plates – Comments about Flat Earth Confusion
https://www.akincana.net/2018/06/07/plates-or-balls/
Regarding the Poison Conspiracy, Kill Guru Become Guru openly invited…
…respected devotees from a variety of sectors to cooperate on an impartial investigation.” -KGBG 105
“… anyone who wants something investigated and properly dealt with they should not look to the corrupted GBC leaders, but just do it themselves, and remove the rascals also… with honesty and truth.” -KGBG 690
I accepted this offer and spend three years looking into the material that has kept the poisoning rumor alive for 20 years. My work was completely INDEPENDENT and I have not held any official position in ISKCON since I departed my service as the head of the Vrindaban Samadi Construction project in 1980.
The outcome of my research is there for those who are capable of reviewing it. It is becoming apparent that there are several who simply are NOT willing or capable of responding to the counter-arguments that are fully outlined in the book.
Nobody can stop someone from believing that the moon is made of cheese if they insist on doing so. The rest of the world will move on and be left to conclude that some people are so invested in the cheese moon fantasy for some deep personal reason, they are simply incapable of acknowledging their err despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That is contempt prior to investigation.”- Herbert Spencer (27 April 1820 – 8 December 1903) was an English philosopher,
Dear Learned Readers,
Let’s pay RAPT attention to review what mayesvara dasa ACBSP writes ; “The outcome of my research is there for those who are capable of reviewing it. It is becoming apparent that there are several who simply are NOT willing or capable of responding to the counter-arguments that are fully outlined in the book.”
And he writes to begin with ; “Perhaps I can help clarify at least some of the confusion of your readers. I am the author of DECEPTION and the producer of the movie with the same name. ………. ”
An Author of DECEPTION and the producer of the movie with the same name ……… indicate strongly ” Fake News ” simply to discern the TRUTH in order to flip reality to make TRUTH as FALSE and FALSE as TRUE.
Here is why ;
What the Author presents in the movie is that it is not a matter of what is TRUE that counts as per various proof in the conversation of Srila Prabhupada on the subject of Poison ( Links provided ) with his attendees or people serving around him, BUT, a matter of what is perceived to be TRUE by the people what they say in the movie without any conclusive references as to WHY the poison issue took place at the first place, and that which made Srila Prabhupada repeated the POISON conversation with the people around him on different occasion during the recorded conversations.
So, kindly explain mayesvara dasa , what is the creditability of such DECEPTION presentation ?
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Mayesvara das ACBSP(not the flat earth man): I accepted this offer and spend three years looking into the material that has kept the poisoning rumor alive for 20 years. My work was completely INDEPENDENT and I have not held any official position in ISKCON since I departed my service as the head of the Vrindaban Samadi Construction project in 1980.
Mahesh: INDEPENDENT??? Just like some will say moon is made of cheese. Who believes this? The con artists of IS_CON circles many have been PAID back-handers for PROPAGANDA WORK for making them look good. “My work was completely INDEPENDENT and I have not held any official position in ISKCON….” reads as—– “See me— I am Mr nice clean guy— I am not with ISKCON” trick does not work:
https://www.iskconirm.com/docs/webpages/mayesvara.htm
Your propaganda DECEPTION video you have made a VERY BIG effort to DELIBRATELY LOWER the whipers sound out-put so they are NOT audiable or clear. This shows YOUR REAL TWISTED MOTIVES for DENIAL. BUT—-you can NOT fool those who ACTUALLY HEAR these:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ppvh77orok1r7vh
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Srila Prabhupada Given Poison:
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/whispers.htm
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/pada.htm
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42549#comment-29598
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42564#more-42564
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=46843#more-46843
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/poison-whispers.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIBqNBMbPvY&t=316s
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47921
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47931
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821#comments
How to understand the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada’s body and his disappearance?
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47943
Mayesvara das: My work was completely INDEPENDENT and I have not held any official position in ISKCON since I departed my service as the head of the Vrindaban Samadi Construction project in 1980.
Mahesh: These people KNOW—– where—- they get their dal and chapati from. That his -how- they take sides. His “completely INDEPENDENT” — means they are ALL TOGETHER in this. Interestingly— he has EVEN used Amarendra das (attorney David M. Liberman). Did anyone notice??? (—–wonder how much they paid him—– this time????)—- to prop-up—— his deception:
http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2020/05/mayesvara-das-fumbles-gbc-poison.html
PADA: I asked you why you are working with a person who legally defends child molester guru programs first. Answer my question then we can work on yours. You are answering a question with a question, which means you evidently have no answer. ys pd
Mayesvara Dasa: Whatever opinion you may have about Amarendra is irrelevant in regards to the fact that he agreed to present the evidence he was personally involved with that supports the research that poison PCON is an intentionally contrived fraud. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise, I am left to conclude that you have misrepresented what Srila Prabhupada said.
PADA: Its not my opinion? Many ex-kulis, many parents, and many others are totally fried that anyone would legally defend the GBC’s molester guru regime. Some people credit Amarendra with aiding suicides of victims by defending the regime. Amarendra “presented evidence” for your “poison complaint rebuttal” video, but he has less than zero credibility with many molesting victims and other citizens of ISKCON.
Mayesvara Dasa: OK. So you are unable to quote Srila Prabhupada properly.
Amarendra was protecting ISKCON from lawyers who wanted to bankrupt it. You are the one who mixes all these other issues into that simple fact. Please list who are ALL the child molester gurus you are referring to?
PADA: Amarendra was protecting a child molesting guru program that was causing mass molesting — and causing victims to commit suicide. And then he supported a program that said Srila Prabhupada is the BBTI’s “writer for hire.” The Dallas court folks concluded there was molesting going on in every nook and cranny of the society. Its not just my opinion at work here.
It’s clear that nobody on this thread has actually read the book DECEPTION which exposes the so-called supporting PCON facts as contrived and in many cases intentionally misleading. Like: “Don’t torture and put to death” or: “They may kill me also” Anyone with a modicum of intelligence can understand that these quotes have been lifted out of context and misapplied to fit the PCON fraud agenda. (It is also very offensive to MIS-Represent what Srila Prabhupada said… kinda-like the book changes you all rial against!) There is a lot more evidence than the misinterpretations posted here but naturally, those who are compelled to promote a lie will do all they can to ignore ot avoid considering any newly discovered material!
So now the only questing is will all of you PCON Fraud supports have the integrity to actually address what is in the book DECEPTION… or just continue with the only thing you appear to be good at is your childish name-calling?
I hope you remain anachronistic because then your irrelevant and hackneyed posts will become more obviously absurd and foolish to those who have no deep emotional need to live in the ignorant past.
mayesvara dasa ACBSP : It’s clear that nobody on this thread has actually read the book DECEPTION which exposes the so-called supporting PCON facts as contrived and in many cases intentionally misleading.
Mahesh: all this nonsense baby talk – to convince us????. “Show me where he gets his rice bowl; and I will show you where he gets his opinion” sums it up. These folks get their dal and chappati from ISKCON and they call themselves “Independent” – BOGUS!
Anyone can ACTUALLY HEAR the whipers on Srila Prabhupada given poison -and- judge for themselves: devotees can ALSO RECOGINZE/IDENTIFY WHO IS WHO from the voices of those devious so-called disciples:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ppvh77orok1r7vh
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Srila Prabhupada Given Poison:
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/whispers.htm
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/pada.htm
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42549#comment-29598
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42564#more-42564
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=46843#more-46843
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/poison-whispers.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIBqNBMbPvY&t=316s
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47921
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47931
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821#comments
How to understand the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada’s body and his disappearance?
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47943
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Motive for Srila Prabhupada BETRAYAL is MONEY, POSITIONS,POWER, CONTROL OF ASSETS, SLAVES – OWNERSHIP (disciples):
SALARIES
Financial statements for the year ended 31 December 2015
Bhaktivedanta Manor (UK)
259649 –
INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS LIMITED
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/DocumentList.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=259649&SubsidiaryNumber=0&DocType=AccountList
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http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends49/0000259649_AC_20151231_E_C.pdf
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Wages and Salaries: £1,658,355
Employees: 172
No employee received emoluments in excess off £60,000
Does not exactly say who or how many got paid up to £60,000.
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SALARIES
Soho St Temple – London(UK)
1132794 –
INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS LONDON
Accounts for 31 Dec 2015:
received 07 Oct 2016
Annual Return for 31 Dec 2015:
received 07 Oct 2016
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1132794&SubsidiaryNumber=0
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http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends94/0001132794_AC_20151231_E_C.pdf
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Wages and Salaries: £443,967
Employees: 45
No employee received emoluments in excess off £60,000
Does not exactly say who or how many got paid up to £60,000.
Wages and salaries £443,967
http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/01-08/editorials2459.htm
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=41633
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Concerning The Actual, Legal Identity Of The BBT
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47020
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/bbti-stolen-copyrights.html
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/iskcon-crime.html
Mahesh Raja is an excellent example of irrelevance. I have paid for my own rice-bowl, roof and chariot for the last 40 years. Thus what he has posted here exposes his inability to respond coherently because that appears to be all he is capable of doing. “We do not err because the truth is difficult to see. It is visible at a glance. We err because this is more comfortable.” – Alexander Solzhenitsyn
mayesvara dasa ACBSP: I have paid for my own rice-bowl, roof and chariot for the last 40 years.
Mahesh: so YOU say. However—– WE—- do NOT believe you – AT ALL!!!
Who is going to believe YOUR TYPES when all the information I have provided above exposing all your made-up nonsense MISREPRESENTED FACTS just TO DUPE the innocent:
IF A MAN IS A THIEF AND IF PEOPLE ARE WARNED THAT HE IS A THIEF, THAT IS TRUTH.
Bg 10.4-5 P The Opulence of the Absolute
Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are for the benefit of others. FACTS SHOULD NOT BE MISREPRESENTED. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. THE TRUTH SHOULD BE SPOKEN IN A STRAIGHT AND FORWARD WAY, SO THAT OTHERS WILL UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHAT THE FACTS ARE. IF A MAN IS A THIEF AND IF PEOPLE ARE WARNED THAT HE IS A THIEF, THAT IS TRUTH. ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT. TRUTHFULNESS DEMANDS THAT THE FACTS BE PRESENTED AS THEY ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF TRUTH.
Note: here are extra clips for ALL to hear on the giving of poison to Srila Prabhupada:
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/vnn-audio-files.html
Ps. Mahesh Raja is an excellent example of RELEVANCE. Although, those who are PAID LACKEYS of the IS_CON system may think otherwise.
mayesvara dasa ACBSP: Perhaps I can help clarify at least some of the confusion of your readers. I am the author of DECEPTION and the producer of the movie with the same name.
Mahesh: all he does is—- MANIPULATE,TWIST and DISTORT to DUPE others here is his track-record:
https://www.iskconirm.com/docs/webpages/mayesvara.htm
The man—– simply—— has ZERO credibility.
These TYPES are just IS_CON rice bowl (dal and chappati) hunters: PAID LACKEYS who try DECEIVE/DUPE others.
So now Mahesh Raja is providing an excellent example of Argumentum ad Ignorantiam. He has absolutely nothing to support his allegation that i am somehow beholden to ISKCON yet he just plows ahead in his fog of ignorance. This is further confirmed by the obvious fact that Mahesh has not begun to grasp the conclusions that are soundly exposed in DECEPTION. (Probably because he is to irresponsible to every learn what they are!)
To hide behind the very poor, incomplete and rather obnoxious rebuttals published 20 years ago by IRM further demonstrates that Mahesh Raja is incapable of addressing the current issues. The fact is now the PCON has been fully exposed as a contemptuous fraud and everyone has the choice to grow up, stop perpetuating something that has been proven could have never happened, or continue to be in abject denial based on a dishonest unwillingness to even consider looking at the new evidence.
So thank you for continuing to publish Mahesh Raja’s mad repetitive rants but do so knowing that it speaks volumes about the type of readers this site apparently attracts. Those who keep allowing Mahesh to sound off like a bumbling incoherent fool just undermine the credibility of anything else on this website that might actually be worthy of serious consideration.
Dear Mayesvara das,
” TRUTH (As It Is ) is never Partial and so is the WISDOM never Partial. ”
Only the CORRUPTED One sees the TRUTH as Partial through the CROOKED Mind with a TAINTED Vision which covers the WISDOM.
An Author of DECEPTION and the producer of the movie with the same name Mayesvara ……… indicate strongly ” Fake News ” simply to discern the TRUTH in order to flip reality to make TRUTH as FALSE and FALSE as TRUE.
Here is why I say ;
What the Author presents in the movie is that it is not a matter of what is TRUE that counts as per various proof in the conversation of Srila Prabhupada on the subject of Poison with his attendees or people serving around him, BUT, a matter of what is perceived to be TRUE by the people what they say in the movie without any conclusive references as to WHY the poison issue took place at the first place, and that which made Srila Prabhupada repeated the POISON conversation with the people around him on different occasion during the recorded conversations. ( Links provided on this subject under discussion on this site. )
So, kindly explain mayesvara dasa , what is the creditability of such conclusions which you think that you have soundly exposed in your DECEPTION presentation ?
What is there to look at the new evidence which is worthy of serious consideration ?
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Dear Amar Puri,
I don’t know how serious you are about actually understanding the facts around the PCON but I will assume you are and are not just being argumentative.
Both Naveen Krishna and Krishna Kanta agree that Srila Prabhupada never said he was being poisoned. The movie only addresses 10% of what is in the book. There is a lot more evidence than just a few clauses that Srila Prabhupada spoke which is obviously highly controversial and considered from a variety of viewpoints. If you are serious about understanding why the PCON could have NEVER happened then read the book which includes several serious questions that the unTruth-Committee needs to address.
*Like why do they misquote Srila Prabhupada so much if they claim to be presenting things honestly?
Thank you for considering these points carefully.
md -adbsp
Am I correct to assume that if you did not post my last contribution to this site, you have selectively censored it? If so would you please be kind enough to explain to me what rules or policies I violated for you to do that? Your response, or lack of it will be duly noted.
Mayesvara ACBSP das: My work was completely INDEPENDENT….
Mahesh: WE do NOT believe this – AT ALL! Mayesvara ACBSP dasa used Amarendra das (attorney David M. Liberman) for his so-called “INDEPENDENT” work:
http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2020/05/mayesvara-das-fumbles-gbc-poison.html
PADA: I asked you why you are working with a person who legally defends child molester guru programs first. Answer my question then we can work on yours. You are answering a question with a question, which means you evidently have no answer. ys pd
Mayesvara Dasa: Whatever opinion you may have about Amarendra is irrelevant in regards to the fact that he agreed to present the evidence he was personally involved with that supports the research that poison PCON is an intentionally contrived fraud. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise, I am left to conclude that you have misrepresented what Srila Prabhupada said.
PADA: Its not my opinion? Many ex-kulis, many parents, and many others are totally fried that anyone would legally defend the GBC’s molester guru regime. Some people credit Amarendra with aiding suicides of victims by defending the regime. Amarendra “presented evidence” for your “poison complaint rebuttal” video, but he has less than zero credibility with many molesting victims and other citizens of ISKCON.
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Mahesh: there is MORE on this Amarendra das (attorney David M. Liberman) his work and his TRUE character :
Hansadutta das: Amarendra asked me, during settlement negotiations, “What does it matter to you if BBT exists or not as long as BBTI carries on the BBT’s work? The books are being published, they’re being distributed. What’s the difference?”
So I asked him, “Suppose I take your wife, I do all those things that you do with her – maybe even better than you do – what does it matter to you?” Poor Amarendra was shocked. The point is: BBT belongs to Prabhupada, not to ISKCON. Prabhupada set it up to work in a particular way, and ISKCON has no right to interfere or to take over, as they have done.
Read more here:
https://harekrsna.org/bbti-and-the-stolen-copyrights/
Note: this shows HOW these folks want to TWIST and MISREPRESENT the FACT that Srila Prabhupada was given poison:
FACTS SHOULD NOT BE MISREPRESENTED:
Bg 10.4-5 P The Opulence of the Absolute
Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are for the benefit of others. FACTS SHOULD NOT BE MISREPRESENTED. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. THE TRUTH SHOULD BE SPOKEN IN A STRAIGHT AND FORWARD WAY, SO THAT OTHERS WILL UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHAT THE FACTS ARE. IF A MAN IS A THIEF AND IF PEOPLE ARE WARNED THAT HE IS A THIEF, THAT IS TRUTH. ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT. TRUTHFULNESS DEMANDS THAT THE FACTS BE PRESENTED AS THEY ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF TRUTH.
Here is more on : BBTi – and the stolen Copyright Record :
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/bbt-bbti.html
Mayesvara ACBSP das: This is further confirmed by the obvious fact that Mahesh has not begun to grasp the conclusions that are soundly exposed in DECEPTION.
Mahesh: You are just talking a load of— NONSENSE. No one cares to be DUPED by bogus conclusions CONCOCTED with a DEVIOUS PLAN to MANIPULATE ,TWIST and DISTORT to DUPE others as YOU have done. You have MISREPRESENTED FACTS. This is OBVIOUS:
Srila Prabhupada: FACTS SHOULD NOT BE MISREPRESENTED
The FACTS : EVERYONE can HEAR FOR THEMSELVES:
Anyone can ACTUALLY HEAR the whipers on Srila Prabhupada given poison -and- judge for themselves: devotees can ALSO RECOGNIZE/IDENTIFY WHO IS WHO from the voices of those devious so-called disciples:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ppvh77orok1r7vh
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Srila Prabhupada Given Poison:
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/whispers.htm
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/pada.htm
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42549#comment-29598
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42564#more-42564
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=46843#more-46843
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/poison-whispers.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIBqNBMbPvY&t=316s
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47921
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47931
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821#comments
How to understand the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada’s body and his disappearance?
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47943
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Mayesvara ACBSP das:To hide behind the very poor, incomplete and rather obnoxious rebuttals published 20 years ago by IRM further demonstrates that Mahesh Raja is incapable of addressing the current issues.
Mahesh: this has EXPOSED YOU as A MANIPULATOR, YOU MANIPULATE ,TWIST and DISTORT to DUPE. All you can say is, “obnoxious rebuttals”— AND YET—- you could NOT even REFUTE those IRM rebuttals????? —- EVEN AFTER after 20 years!!!!. So—- what is VALUE of your CHARACTER credit????? ZERO!!!
Mayesvara ACBSP das: So thank you for continuing to publish Mahesh Raja’s mad repetitive rants but do so knowing that it speaks volumes about the type of readers this site apparently attracts.
Mahesh: this is yet ANOTHER EVIDENCE that YOU are MANIPULATOR at your game—- again. This is for ALL to witness. You want to CHANGE the way this site operates because it EXPOSES YOUR TYPES ( who are just CHEATERS out to DUPE the innocent.
The man—– simply—— has ZERO credibility.
These TYPES are just IS_CON rice bowl (dal and chappati) hunters: PAID LACKEYS who try DECEIVE/DUPE others.
ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT.
Bg 10.4-5 P The Opulence of the Absolute
Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are for the benefit of others. FACTS SHOULD NOT BE MISREPRESENTED. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. THE TRUTH SHOULD BE SPOKEN IN A STRAIGHT AND FORWARD WAY, SO THAT OTHERS WILL UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHAT THE FACTS ARE. IF A MAN IS A THIEF AND IF PEOPLE ARE WARNED THAT HE IS A THIEF, THAT IS TRUTH. ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT. TRUTHFULNESS DEMANDS THAT THE FACTS BE PRESENTED AS THEY ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF TRUTH.
Note: here is some more info. on Mayesvara ACBSP das the so-called “INDEPENDENT” work man’s – Amarendra das (attorney David M. Liberman):
http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2020/05/its-official-iskcon-failed-its-children.html
PADA: First of all, lets review a comment made about the recently departed ISKCON-born “Vaikuntha child” Manjari Liberman Dasi:
R Dasi: Manjari, It BROKE MY HEART how literally NO ONE cared about you or the fact of your complete poverty. You were literally living on streets and forced to sell yourself to survive.
PADA: How could any of our ISKCON “Vaikuntha children” end up in such a terrible plight? Especially since she is the daughter of a prominent ISKCON member, Amarendra das, the GBC’s fix-it lawyer.
Recently GBC defender Mayesvara chastised me for criticizing Amarendra, saying I don’t know about his great service. Well maybe, but we DO know he defended the regime over the molesting. We DO know his daughter ended up being a victim of the regime. We DO know many other kids were victims of the regime he defends. We DO know he acted as a GBC fix-it man on the poison issue.
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Note: so—– what does this speak of CHARACTER of the defenders of the Poison regime?
TEXT 4
dambho darpo ‘bhimānaś ca
krodhaḥ pāruṣyam eva ca
ajñānaṁ cābhijātasya
pārtha sampadam āsurīm
SYNONYMS
dambhaḥ—pride; darpaḥ—arrogance; abhimānaḥ—conceit; ca—and; krodaḥ—anger; pāruṣyam—harshness; eva—certainly; ca—and; ajñānam—ignorance; ca—and; abhijātasya—one who is born; pārtha—O son of Pṛthā; sampadam—nature; āsurīm—demoniac.
TRANSLATION
Arrogance, pride, anger, conceit, harshness and ignorance-these qualities belong to those of demonic nature, O son of Pṛthā.
PURPORT
In this verse, the royal road to hell is described. The demoniac want to make a SHOW of religion and advancement in spiritual science, although they do NOT follow the principles. They are ALWAYS arrogant or proud in possessing some type of education or so much wealth. They desire to be WORSHIPED by others, and DEMAND respectability, although they do not command respect. Over trifles they become very angry and speak harshly, not gently. They do not know what should be done and what should not be done. They do everything WHIMSICALLY, according to their own desire, and they do NOT recognize any authority. These demoniac qualities are taken on by them from the beginning of their bodies in the wombs of their mothers, and as they grow they manifest all these inauspicious qualities.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/bg/16/4
Note: here is the interesting point: Mayesvara ACBSP das would like to DUPE others with his Lab rantings. THIS is HOW he wants to CUNNINGLY MANIPULATE/CREATE DIVERSION from the ACTUAL HEARING so people do NOT pay attention to HEARING the whispers INSTEAD he directs to the Labs. BUT—– the REAL issue—– is—- HEARING— the poison whispers: devotees CAN IDENTIFY those who did it. What he did was MANIPULATE by LOWERING the sound track in HIS DECEPTION MOVIE so it was HARDLY audible/DISTORTED then went to DISTORT the meanings. This is HOW the man TWISTS. If one hears the ACTUAL poison whispers given below then he can UNDERSTAND because these OVER HERE are NOT manipulated to LOWERING the sound track:
http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2020/05/mayesvara-das-fumbles-gbc-poison.html
RE: Mayesvara Dasa
Mayesvara: You are still living in the past. PBS Television produced an episode of FRONTLINE that clearly confirmed how Jack Mitchel had fraudulent credentials… so will you deprive your readers of this pivotal fact as well… too much truth huh? Your unwillingness to allow others to decide for themselves proves you controlling agenda and fear of opposing opinions.
[PADA: We never said Jack Mitchell is the pivotal evidence? You are misquoting what I said. Strawman.
Srila Prabhupada’s statements are the most direct evidence. Three different audio labs did a separate analysis, and all agreed on the content. And Gainesville FBI folks said this would be prosecuted as a murder if this had occurred in the USA.
Apart from that, we can hear the whispers ourselves, we don’t need a lab to tell us this is a discussion about poison. The people who first heard the whispers — knew it was about poison, before any labs were involved. They hired the labs to get confirmation.
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Anyone can ACTUALLY HEAR the whipers on Srila Prabhupada given poison -and- judge for themselves: devotees can ALSO RECOGNIZE/IDENTIFY WHO IS WHO from the voices of those devious so-called disciples:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ppvh77orok1r7vh
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Srila Prabhupada Given Poison:
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/whispers.htm
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/pada.htm
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42549#comment-29598
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42564#more-42564
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=46843#more-46843
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/poison-whispers.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIBqNBMbPvY&t=316s
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47921
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47931
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821#comments
How to understand the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada’s body and his disappearance?
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47943
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The man Mayesvara ACBSP das —– simply—— has ZERO credibility.
These TYPES are just IS_CON rice bowl (dal and chappati) hunters: PAID LACKEYS who try DECEIVE/DUPE others.
I wonder if the person who is responsible for censoring my posts would have the decency to at least identify themselves to me…. I suspect not… because that is standard operating procedures for those who like to hide pseudo-facts in vague innuendos as exposed in section 3.3.7 of DECEPTION called “Mr. Unknown & His Cousin Anonymous”
You all can believe whatever you want but if the only way you can sustain your tribe is to cloister among yourselves and shut out any alternative points of view then it is an embarrassing misnomer to refer to yourselves as Prabhupadanugas. Srila Prabhupada openly invited those who might think differently than he did to come discuss it with him in an open forum based on logic and reason. He never had to rely on censoring what others said to retain control because he was confident that his realizations would prevail. Preaching to the choir is apparently all the aPrabhupadanugas are capable of doing and that is a sign of neophyte as clearly explained in a recent article on Akinchan Gochara: (https://www.akincana.net/2020/07/01/contentious-sankirtana-or-compassionate-patience-part-1/ )
Censoring reasonably presented posts where I have clearly stated that I have had no fiduciary relationship with ISKCON, for the last 40 years simply because you don’t believe me while having absolutely nothing to support that belief is evidence of weak-minded cowards, not servants of Srila Prabhupada. .
So what your readers are left with are the mindless unfounded ranting of Mahesh Raja demonstrating how the
Prabhupadanugas are incapable of responding with logic and reason, a prerequisite for understanding the Absolute Truth.
“…it is a fact that without logic and reason there can be no question of accepting the Abso-lute Truth.” – CC Adi Lila 8.15p
“The Visnudutas, like all genuine servants of God, understood everything according to log-ic and reason.” -A Second Change, Cpt 14.
What is going on here has NOTHING to do with the example Srila Prabhupada set. Therefore those who endorse this type of childish nonsense would be more appropriately referred to as Prabhupaaparaddums.
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Dear Webmaster,
Please accept my apologies. You had approved of my other comments so quickly the longer delay was unexpected. It also appeared that my contributions had disappeared apparently while being considered when I came onto the site via a new session. Thank you for the integrity of fair and balanced journalism. I will continue to contribute here as long as doing so isn’t a complete waste of time.
Hare Krishna.
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!
md-acbsp
Mayesvara ACBSP das: I have had no fiduciary relationship with ISKCON, for the last 40 years simply because you don’t believe me while having absolutely nothing to support that belief is evidence of weak-minded cowards, not servants of Srila Prabhupada.
Mahesh: it is NOT good to lie:
Everyone should be afraid of the sinful reactions to lying, for mother earth cannot even bear the weight of a sinful liar.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/8/20/20_summary
Servants of Srila Prabhupada ACCEPT Srila Prabhupada as the Diksa Guru of ISKCON and his Ritvik System as per July 9th 1977. You are just a DISHONEST man who goes AGAINST Srila Prabhupada:
Srila Prabhupada IS Diksa Guru
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43094#more-43094
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Only Maha-Bhagavata is Diksa Guru
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=41422#more-41422
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All he does is—- MANIPULATE,TWIST and DISTORT to DUPE others here is his track-record:
https://www.iskconirm.com/docs/webpages/mayesvara.htm
The man—– simply—— has ZERO credibility.
These TYPES are just IS_CON rice bowl (dal and chappati) hunters: PAID LACKEYS who try DECEIVE/DUPE others.
Mahesh Raja,
I am sorry but what you write jumps around so much and seems to have no bearing on what I am saying that I can hardly comprehend what you are attempting to communicate.
You are very quick to make extremely aggressive accusations but your response is so addlepated and obtuse you don’e seem to be able to coherently respond to the issues I have raised.
Nico invited others to seriously study the PCON.
I accepted that invitation.
My work is independent.
The conclusions are there for those who want to understand this matter earnestly.
You don’t appear to be one of those individuals.
You just keep repeating old information that has been exposed as PCON propaganda.
So far you are stuck in an anachronistic loop.
If you don’t respond to the facts then you will remail irrelevant.
Hare Krishna
md -acbsp
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THE POISON ISSUE IS 100% FACTUAL
https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=46843
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This information is old, stale and proven to be inaccurate. Many of the statements made here have been exposed as being intentionally misleading. For example the quote ““Put the Poison in different containers” was eventually dropped completely because: “Eventually whisper #4 about putting poison in different containers was understood to be “we’re voicing different opinions” and taken off the list.” -KGBG 62 In the same way ALL the other allegations about whispers suggesting Srila PRabhupada milk had been poisoned have been exposed as misinterpretations of what was actually going on in the room when these phrases were heard. Those who are serous about wanting to understand how it was impossible for anyone to poison Srila Prabhpad the way it has been alleged need to read the book that presents 500 pages of counter arguments called DECEPTION. Available at Amazon.com. https://tinyurl.com/ycp7y9y6
Mayesvara dasa, kindly explain ;
“What is the creditability ( VALUE ) of such conclusions which you think that you have soundly exposed in your DECEPTION presentation in nullifying what has been presented in the conversation of Srila Prabhupada to the attendees surrounding him in the link of the recorded tapes provided ?
Why Srila Prabhupada does bring out the POISON conversation at the first place ?
How the POISON issue came to surface that Srila Prabhupada had to point out ?
What was taking place that led Srila Prabhupada spoke such conversation with his attendees about POISON ?
What is there to look at the new evidence which is worthy of serious consideration as you are putting forth IF you have no clue what took place in resulting the POISON issue Srila Prabhupada was referring to in the recorded messages ?
Answer these simples questions please with the proof.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Mayesvara ACBSP dasa: I am sorry but what you write jumps around so much and seems to have no bearing on what I am saying that I can hardly comprehend what you are attempting to communicate.
Mahesh: as usual, you are just using your CUNNING MANIPULATIVE words to juggle out of the FACT that Srila Prabhupada was given poison to kill him: this FACT is OBVIOUS to MANY of us which is why we ask the -sincere- readers to HEAR FOR THEMSELVES what is presented HERE:
Anyone can ACTUALLY HEAR the whipers on Srila Prabhupada given poison -and- judge for themselves: devotees can ALSO RECOGNIZE/IDENTIFY WHO IS WHO from the voices of those devious so-called disciples:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ppvh77orok1r7vh
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Srila Prabhupada Given Poison:
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/whispers.htm
http://gurupoison.tripod.com/support/pada.htm
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42549#comment-29598
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42564#more-42564
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=46843#more-46843
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/poison-whispers.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIBqNBMbPvY&t=316s
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47921
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47931
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43821#comments
How to understand the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada’s body and his disappearance?
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47943
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Mayesvara ACBSP dasa: If you don’t respond to the facts then you will remail irrelevant.
Mahesh: and — what FACTS have you got??? ZERO! Your MANIPULATION by LOWERING the sound quality to DUPE OTHERS are facts?????
You have MISREPRESENTED the FACTS:
FACTS SHOULD NOT BE MISREPRESENTED:
Bg 10.4-5 P The Opulence of the Absolute
Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are for the benefit of others. FACTS SHOULD NOT BE MISREPRESENTED. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. THE TRUTH SHOULD BE SPOKEN IN A STRAIGHT AND FORWARD WAY, SO THAT OTHERS WILL UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHAT THE FACTS ARE. IF A MAN IS A THIEF AND IF PEOPLE ARE WARNED THAT HE IS A THIEF, THAT IS TRUTH. ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT. TRUTHFULNESS DEMANDS THAT THE FACTS BE PRESENTED AS THEY ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF TRUTH.
Note: All he does is—- MANIPULATE,TWIST and DISTORT to DUPE others here is his track-record:
https://www.iskconirm.com/docs/webpages/mayesvara.htm
The man—– simply—— has ZERO credibility.
These TYPES are just IS_CON rice bowl (dal and chappati) hunters: PAID LACKEYS who try DECEIVE/DUPE others.
If you follow the “poison trail” you arrive at the CIA. This is the real point. Mudhasvara Das is an ‘enabler’ as he works for the Military Industrial Complex and has been vetted by them to carry out and have access to top secret information. These are the same spooks that created Covid 19 (Fort Dietrick) and conducted genocidal vaccination programs to murder their own soldiers in the Gulf War by forcibly injecting troops with Anthrax vaccine (so they die within 10 years!).
This guy is a pathological liar! We should not waste our time with these sell-outs and dupes.
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta stated very clearly that one should not take much notice of what someone says but rather ‘who they represent, and who is paying them!’ The ‘top secret ‘ arm of the Military Industrial Complex is under the direct control of the Deep State and will play a major role in the mass extermination of the population through Geothermal Engineering, Genocidal Vaccines and GMO proliferation, causing mass starvation.
It is easy to see how the stupid, dumb populace are already lined up (on the killing floor) to be masked, tagged, tracked, chipped, locked-up, microwaved (5G), interrogated, detained, informed on, brainwashed, scared to death, vilified into compliance, fined, jailed, rendered homeless, rendered jobless, isolated from loved ones, and exterminated (if you end up on a ‘vent’ in hospital, where you are fully sedated!).
Mudhasvara is an ‘enabler’, and wants to cover-up his “masters” involvement in poisoning Srila Prabhupada!……..We should NOT HEAR from this pathological liar and paid whore of the Military Industrial Complex but rather……….. CUT OFF HIS OXYGEN SUPPLY!
By commenting here for more than three months, the author of “Deception” (William Roberts-Mayesvara) demonstrated an example of what can be expected in his book. Exactly as written in article foreword:
“Mostly he (Mayesvara) makes up things which are out of the blue, or he
twists things around, or just doesn’t get things right.“
By opposing Srila Prabhupadas direct statement recorded on tape, he (Mayesvara) is indeed an accomplice in the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada, by falsifying the truth and protecting the poisoners.
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