Iskcon Education Promoting Hinduism

Iskcon educational services promoting Hinduism, glorifying Vivekananda and Aurobindo, and female mayavadi hindu gurus

Iskcon educational services promoting Hinduism, glorifying
Vivekananda and Aurobindo, and female mayavadi hindu gurus

Terrible things happening in Bhaktivedanta Manor, Iskcon educational services
promoting hinduism, glorifying Vivekananda and Aurobindo, and female mayavadi
hindu gurus, not giving almost any reference to Srila Prabhupada on their website

It is noticed that disastrous adulteration of the Hare Krishna Movement is taking place everywhere because the leaders in charge of these are compromising more and more just for money making and gathering followers. The following links from Iskcon educational services just throw an example as to how the movement gets corrupted due to extremely compromised ideas. [Yasoda Nandana dasa]

INSULTING SRILA PRABHUPADA BY COMPARING
HIM WITH OTHER MAYAVADI LEADERS

Iskcon educational services has started to compromise more and more by trying to give no importance to the transcendental teachings of Srila Prabhupada and even trying to compare him with Aurobindo and Vivekananda thus insulting him in the greatest possible way.

This link, https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/recent-spiritual-and-cultural-leaders/

glorifies “Aurobindo” and “Ramana Maharshi” as prominent leaders along with Srila Prabhupada.

Hṛdayānanda: (translating) He wants to know if the greatest offense is to disobey the guru.

Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the first offense. Guror avajñā, śruti-śāstra-nindanam. Śruti-śāstra-nindanaṁ guror avajñā. If you accept guru and again disobey him, then what is your position? You are not a gentleman. You promise before guru, before Kṛṣṇa, before fire, that “I shall obey your order; I shall execute this,” and again you do not do this. Then you are not even a gentleman, what to speak about devotee. This is common sense.  [Lecture on BG 2.11 (with Spanish translator) — Mexico, February 11, 1975]

EQUATING HARE KRISHNA MOVEMENT WITH OTHER ATHEISTIC
MOVEMENTS LIKE ARYA SAMAJ, RAMAKRISHNA MISSION ETC

https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/modern-hindu-groups-and-leaders/

A paragraph from the above link states “There are many different Hindu groups in the UK, and it would be misleading to consider one as more representative than another. Nonetheless, while keeping this in mind, it is important to know and teach about the main ones, briefly described below.”

The darkened line simply equates all other nonsense movements with the hare krishna movement thus promoting so called hinduism (or sahajiyaism).

Is this not a great offense against all Vaishnavas? How can they dare try to even equate this eternal Hare Krishna movement with so called atheistic movements?

We have a distinct position that we are neither cheated nor cheaters. We are the genuine representative of Krishna who is the friend of all living creatures. We must play our part independently only on faith in Krishna and His bonafide representatives. [Letter to Brahmananda, 21st December 1967]

The Māyāvādīs, they have invented. In Calcutta, in Bengal, they have invented Kali-kīrtana, Kali-kīrtana. The Ramakrishna Mission, they have invented Kali-kīrtana. “Why Hari-kīrtana? Kali-kīrtana.” They have got a party. As we say… Because they are rival, if we say, “Hare Kṛṣṇa,” they will say “Kali, Kali, Kali,” like that. This is going on. Kīrtana does not mean any other demigod. Kīrtana means of Viṣṇu. Śravaṇaṁ kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ, clearly state. But these bogus, so-called swamis and yogis, they cheat people, bluff people by their own concoction. That is the difficulty. Even if you speak the right truth, they are unable to receive it because they have been deceived by so many rascals. So kīrtana means… Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad…, satataṁ kīrtayanto mām [Bg. 9.14], Kṛṣṇa. He doesn’t say that “Any kīrtana will do.” No. He doesn’t say. Satataṁ kīrtayanto mām yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ [Bg. 9.14]. So, everything is there. Stick to Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra and see the Deity always and have impression of the Deity. In whichever position you are, you’ll be meditating and your life will be successful.  Thank you very much. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. (end) Srimad-Bhagavatam class, [Sb. 3.2819], Nairobi, Africa. October 29, 1975

Iskcon educational services promoting Hinduism, glorifying Vivekananda and Aurobindo, and female mayavadi hindu gurus

DESCRIBING SO CALLED LEADERS LIKE
VIVEKANANDA AND GLORIFYING THEM

Few links below direct to the website of Iskcon educational services, which are promoting Hinduism and glorifying Vivekananda to attract cheap popularity.

https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/further-information-and-teaching-resources-secondary/articles/art-1207-the-life-of-swami-vivekananda-1863-1902/

Srila Prabhupada:” Regarding George’s foreword, you write to say that certainly there will be no more changes. Do you mean that the changes which you have already suggested in your letter dated 11th April with quotation from Swami Vivekananda are to be added? We cannot add any quotation from Swami Vivekananda. In your letter of April 11th, you have asked me to insert “What right has a man to say he has a soul if he does not feel it, or that there is a God if he does not see Him?” Do you mean I have to put in my KRSNA book all this nonsense quotation? This man (Vivekananda) [handwritten] has no understanding either of soul or of God and still he has posed himself as a Swami to mislead so many innocent persons. Understanding of the existence of soul is the beginning of teachings of Bhagavad Gita. If one has no understanding of the soul and God, he is no better than an animal because animals cannot have any idea of the soul or God. So how can I add these nonsense quotations? George’s foreword as it was originally sent can be published with little editorial changes, but in no case can the quotation from Swami Vivekananda be placed in my book. You have already admitted in your letter dated 11th April that it hurts you to see this change, quoting a rascal like Vivekananda, so please let me know clearly what you want me to do.”  [Letter to Syamasundara written from Los Angeles,24th April 1970]

Srila Prabhupāda: And he is considered to be a great scholar in Bhagavad-gītā, and when cow protection was requested, he said that “How can I do it? It is their religious principle.” And he is a great big scholar in Bhagavad-gītā. All nonsense going on. Whole world is full of nonsense, mūḍhas, beginning from Gandhi to any rascal, all of them, rascals. Perhaps it is the first time we are detecting, “Here are all rascals.” It is first time. Then we are enemy of everyone. We call everyone rascal—Gandhi rascal, Vivekananda rascal, Aurobindo rascal. So actually, they are, but people are thinking, “These people say all big, big men rascals? Therefore, they are rascals.” [Morning Walk, Mauritius. October 03, 1975]

PROMOTION OF HINDUISM

https://hinduismre.co.uk/our-services/inset/

There is no such thing as Hindu dharma. No. There is no such word in the whole Vedic literature. You won’t find in the Bhagavad-gītā or Bhāgavata as Hindu dharma. There is one word as Bhāgavata-dharma, but there is no such word as Hindu dharma. This Hindu dharma or Hindu… This is creation by our neighbor, Indian neighbor, the Middle-East Muhammadans. They gave the name, Indian people, as “Hindu.” “Hindu” means… There is one river, Sindhu. [Lecture SB 02.02.05 – New York, March 5, 1975]

So Kṛṣṇa says, “All the varieties of life, it doesn’t matter. I am their father.” Ahaṁ bīja-pradaḥ pitā [Bg. 14.4]. Pitā means father. So Kṛṣṇa claims all living entities as His sons. But we may say that “Kṛṣṇa is Indian,” “Kṛṣṇa is Hindu,” or “Kṛṣṇa something.” But no. Kṛṣṇa is actually the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement was started by Kṛṣṇa Himself. Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. Srila Prabhupada discussion with John Lennon and George Harrison, London, England. September 11, 1969

PROMOTION OF SELF MADE WOMEN MAYAVADI GURUS

Another link (https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/famous-women-within-hinduism/), tries to adulterate the glories of pure devotees of Krsna by referencing female mayavadi self-made gurus .

Below is a small excerpt from the site itself which says:

Today, Hindu women are prominent in all walks of life. Worldwide popularity has favored a number of female gurus, such as Mother Meera, “Nirmila Devi, and Amritanandamayi Devi. Indira Betti is particularly well-known in Britain. Mother Gayathri, a popular guru in Britain, is shown here.”

While Meerabai is a devotee of Krsna, rest of these so-called female gurus are mayavadi and not devotees of Krsna. For a cheap popularity as well as money making, the website has compromised to the greatest extent.

Lord Chaitanya wanted that the message should be distributed in every village and town of the globe. Let us do this service as far as possible in all seriousness. We cannot make any compromise with anyone for cheap popularity. [Letter to Brahmananda, 21st December 1967]

We may not have many followers. We don’t care for that. We don’t want these nonsense followers, many thousands. What they will do? But if we can turn one man into Kṛṣṇa consciousness perfectly, he can do tremendous work in the world. That is our principle. We don’t want nonsense. So, this is the principle of understanding Bhagavad-gītā.  [Introduction to Bhagavad-gita As It Is — Los Angeles, November 23, 1968]

It is already there. It is already there. You kindly take it… You understand. The difficulty is you do not understand even a line of Bhagavad-gītā. Still, you say that you are student of Bhagavad-gītā. This is difficulty. [Evening Darsana — May 9, 1977, Hrishikesh]

A lot more discrepancies can be found by going through the website, but here only few are listed out.  The tendency to compromise must be given up immediately and pure original books of Srila Prabhupada must be replaced soon to reestablish the movement.

“The reviews have very much encouraged me. Especially those of Prof. Bhatt and Prof. Vajpeye. I have personally written a letter of thanks to Dr. Bhatt, that he has so much encouraged me. Dr. Vajpeye’s review we are going to print and widely distribute, especially in Bombay and Madras, where there is so much propaganda from these bogus gurus and yogis. He has got practical experience of how they are cheating the innocent people in foreign countries and he has written; “The authorized edition of Bhagavad-gita will help to stop the terrible cheating of ‘gurus’ and ‘yogis’ who are false and unauthorized. “Letter to: Svarupa, Ranadhira, Mayapur-3 February, 1976 Los Angeles

Comments

  1. Mahesh Raja says:

    VIVEKANANDA WAS ALSO NOT EVEN INTELLIGENT MAN BECAUSE HE ACCEPTED RAMAKRSNA AS INCARNATION OF GOD

    Note: There are many Hindus even among educated circles who tend to glorify Vivekananda and Ramakrishna but Srila Prabhupada exposes their bogus philosophy.

    68-02-25. Letter: Satsvarupa
    Please accept my blessings. I am in receipt of a copy of your last Istagosthi dated Jan. 27, and I am very much satisfied with your replies on the questions made in the Istagosthi. The meeting is called “Istagosthi” and not “Istagosthi”. YOU MAY KNOW ALSO THAT RAMAKRISHNA’S WORSHIP OF KALI MAKES HIM A THIRD CLASS MAN. In the Bhagavad-gita it is stated that one who worships the demigods just like Brahma, Siva, Indra, Candra or demigoddesses like Kali, Durga, Sarasvati, etc., are described as persons who have lost their intelligence. One person who has lost his intelligence, how he can become an incarnation of God? A person who has lost his intelligence, is not even counted amongst the higher section of society. So, the Ramakrishna is a bogus man according to the statement of Bhagavad-gita. VIVEKANANDA WAS ALSO NOT EVEN INTELLIGENT MAN BECAUSE HE ACCEPTED RAMAKRSNA AS INCARNATION OF GOD. THIS RAMAKRSNA, WHO IS ACTUALLY GADADHARA CHATTERJEE, DECLARED HIMSELF AS THE SAME RAMA AND KRSNA. IF HE IS ACCEPTED AS SUCH BY SOME PERSON, IS HE VERY INTELLIGENT MAN? Suppose a man comes before somebody and says he is Pres. Johnson. and the foolish man accepts the pretender as Pres. Johnson, is that man to be accepted as very intelligent man? VIVEKANANDA WAS NOT EVEN AN INTELLIGENT MAN BECAUSE HE ACCEPTED GADHADHARA CHATTERJEE AS INCARNATION OF GOD WITHOUT ANY CREDENTIALS. We accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead on the evidence of Vedic literature. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE IN THE VEDIC LITERATURES THAT A COMMON UNINTELLIGENT PERSON BY WORSHIPPING A DEMIGODDESS KALI CAN BECOME AN INCARNATION OF GODHEAD. THE GODDESS KALI IS DIVINE MOTHER FOR THE CONDITIONED SOULS, NOT FOR THE LIBERATED SOULS. THERE IS NO DIRECTION IN THE VEDIC LITERATURES THAT ONE CAN BECOME LIBERATED EVEN BY WORSHIPPING THE GODDESS KALI. SHE IS SUPERINTENDENT OF THE PRISON HOUSE KNOWN AS MATERIAL WORLD. ONE CAN DERIVE SOME MATERIAL FACILITIES BY WORSHIPPING KALI OR DURGA, BUT NOBODY CAN BECOME LIBERATED BY WORSHIPPING SUCH DEMIGODDESSES, SO WHAT TO SPEAK OF BECOMING INCARNATION OF GODHEAD. SO THE PROPAGANDA THAT RAMAKRSNA BECAME INCARNATION OF GOD BY WORSHIPPING KALI IS NOT ACCEPTED BY ANY AUTHORIZED ACHARYA AND THEREFORE IT IS A BOGUS PROPAGANDA. ONE WHO FOLLOWS THEREFORE, SUCH BOGUS PROPAGANDA IS ALSO MISLED AS FAR AS HIS SPIRITUAL ADVANCEMENT IS CONCERNED.
    You have to meet many opposing elements in the matter of preaching work therefore you should always be careful to follow the principles of Bhagavad-gita as it is. You will be glad to know that our arrangements with MacMillan for publishing Bhagavad-gita As It Is is already completed, and the manuscript is handed over to them. We should preach clearly that our Krsna Consciousness movement is surely on the basis of Bhagavad-gita as it is. Any other movement which does not tally with the principles of Bhagavad-gita as it is, is considered by us as unauthorized. All these so-called yogic or other spiritualist movements in this country imported from India are all against the principles of Bhagavad-gita. It is our movement only which strictly follows the principles of the Bhagavad-gita, under the guidance of the authorities or acaryas in disciplic succession from Lord Caitanya who practically demonstrated in life and practice the principles of Bhagavad-gita. The last word in the Bhagavad-gita is to surrender unto Krsna and Lord Caitanya taught us to surrender unto Krsna. His transcendental movement of chanting the Holy name of Krsna and Rama is the sublime movement, not only at the present age, but for all the time past, present and future.

    Hegel.SYA conversations
    Prabhupada: Anything nonsense idea, that is not God. God has created you. You cannot create God. AND THEY ARE CREATING GOD. JUST LIKE VIVEKANANDA MISSION, YATA MATA TATA PATHA. AS MANY OPINION YOU HAVE GOT, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR RELIGIOUS WAY. YATA MATA, THIS IS THEIR MISSION, YATA MATA TATA PATHA, “WHATEVER YOU ARE THINKING, ALL RIGHT.” RAMAKRISHNA, HE WANTED TO REALIZE GOD FROM ANY WAY. AND LATER ON HE WANTED TO REALIZE GOD BY THE MOHAMMEDANS’ WAY AND HE ASKED THE PROPRIETOR OF THE TEMPLE TO ALLOW HIM TO TAKE MEAT, COW’S FLESH. SO WHEN HE ASKED, THE PROPRIETOR SAID, “PLEASE GO OUT. GET OUT.” Now don’t real…, I don’t want the (indistinct). This philosophy also you can realize God in any way, yata mata. Now he wanted to realize in the Mohammedan’s way, therefore he thought it wise that he must eat cow’s flesh. These things are there.

    730813rc.par Conversations
    Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. BECAUSE VIVEKANANDA SAID, “OH, WHAT IS THE HARM THERE, IN EATING? YOU CAN EAT WHATEVER YOU LIKE. IT DOESN’T MATTER IN RELIGION.” IT WAS THE FIRST. AND HE HIMSELF WAS EATING ANYTHING. SO ALL THE RAMAKRISHNA MISSION SANNYASIS STILL, THEY ARE EATING MEAT, EGG AND EVERYTHING, ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA. YES. FISH IS NO CONSIDERATION. THAT IS DAILY AFFAIR. And the turkey,… Yes. Instead of preaching here, they have taken the Western method. And Vivekananda’s preaching is like Western missionaries–open hospitals, school…
    670224CC.SF Lectures
    Oh, Caitanya Mahaprabhu regrets that such a great difference between God and the living entity, and Sankaracarya has described that we are God? That means he has diminished the opulence and value of God. Suppose if I call a third-class man “His Majesty,” then what is that? This word, “His Majesty,” is misused. JUST LIKE THEY ARE SAYING, DARIDRA-NARAYANA. THE FOOLISH RAMAKRISHNA MISSION HAS, I MEAN TO SAY, DISCOVERED A WORD, DARIDRA-NARAYANA, “POOR NARAYANA.” NARAYANA, WHO IS THE HUSBAND OF MANY THOUSANDS OF GODDESS OF FORTUNE, HE HAS BECOME POOR. JUST SEE THE THEORY. You can ask Nikhilananda what is the meaning of daridra-narayana. THEY HAVE DISCOVERED. VIVEKANANDA HAS DISCOVERED. NARAYANA HAS BECOME POOR. WHEN YOU ASK HIM, “WHY DO YOU CALL DARIDRA-NARAYANA?” THEY WILL EXPLAIN LIKE THAT, “BECAUSE NARAYANA IS THERE, THEREFORE NARAYANA HAS BECOME DARIDRA.” JUST SEE. SUPPOSE A RICH MAN COMES INTO THIS STORE, SO HE BECOMES POOR JUST LIKE US. BECAUSE HE HAS KINDLY COME HERE IN THIS STORE, SO BECAUSE WE ARE ALL POOR MEN, HE’LL ALSO BECOMES POOR MAN? THIS IS THE REASON. BUT THESE ARE ALL NONSENSE. NARAYANA NEVER BECOMES POOR. THE POOR, POVERTY-STRICKEN MAN, ALL THESE THINGS ARE FOR THE JIVAS, THE LIVING ENTITIES. NARAYANA IS NEVER POOR. NARAYANA IS NEVER UNDER IGNORANCE. NARAYANA NEVER BECOMES DOG. We become dog. We become cat. You should always… Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore rejects, that “This sort of philosophy propounded by Sankara is a great mistake because he has minimized the value of the Supreme Lord. By making a dog a god, he has insulted God. Therefore this Mayavada philosophy is the most offensive activities of the living being.” So you should be very, very careful, very careful.
    701219SB.SUR Lectures
    There are two classes of men in this world. One is called daiva, and the other is called asura. Asura means rebelled against God: “Don’t care for God. I am God. You are God. Everyone is God. Why you are searching after God? There are so many Gods in the streets, lying on the footpath, daridra-narayana. You serve these Gods.” You see? This is illusion. Daridra-narayana, starving God. So many subscription are raised in America in the name of serving these daridra-narayanas in India. Now these Americans are questioning that “You take money for serving the daridra-narayana. Why we see…? When we go to India, why we see so many daridra-narayanas are lying on the footpath?” These questions are being made. One of the big Ramakrishna Mission swamis, Swami Nikhilananda, he told me. It is not my manufactured story. Actually, people are claiming welfare society, welfare activities. But what welfare they are doing actually? The welfare activities are increasing, and the candidates for receiving the welfare, they are increasing. You are trying to serve the daridra-narayana, but actually the number of daridra-narayanas are increasing daily. So that is the position. Here, practically, NARAYANA CANNOT BE DARIDRA. THAT IS ANOTHER ILLUSION. NARAYANA IS THE HUSBAND OF THE GODDESS OF FORTUNE, LAKSMI. HOW HE CAN BE DARIDRA? It is also manufactured word. Laksmi-sahasra-sata-sambhrama-sevyamanam govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami. Here we keep one Laksmi, but as soon as there is any little discrepancy, the Laksmi immediately becomes angry and there is divorce. Practically there is no respect from the side of Laksmi to the so-called daridra-narayana. But there, thousands and thousands of Laksmis are very respectfully serving the Lord. You’ll read in the story of Rukmini, the prime Laksmi of Lord Krsna. One day Krsna was a little joking, and she took it very seriously, and she immediately fainted. So much respect. “Oh, Krsna might be thinking of leaving me.” So she fainted immediately. So much sambhrama. Laksmi-sahasra-sata-sambhrama-sevyamanam. These are the statements of scripture. And when Krsna was actually present on the planet, He showed it, how much He is respectfully served by His sixteen thousand wives, and how much comfortably He kept all of them in different palaces, and expanding Himself into sixteen thousand forms. That is God. That is God. So everyone, even the Laksmi is servant, maidservant of Krsna, what to speak of others? Dasi. So how one can claim that “I am God”? God is not so cheap. Only persons who are illusioned, they claim that “I am God.” He is servant. Instead of becoming, voluntarily rendering service to God, because they claim to be God they are more put into illusion. Maya-grasta jivera sei dasa upajaya. It is said in the Vaisnava literature, pisaci paile yena mati-cchanna haya, maya-grasta jivera sei dasa upajaya: “Just like a person, when he is haunted by ghosts, he speaks all kinds of nonsense, similarly, when a living entity is engrossed by the illusory aspect of this material nature, he also talks all foolishly.” He also talks… One of the greatest foolish things is that he claims that “I am God.

    SB 3.15.25 P Description of the Kingdom of God
    Brahmaji confirms herewith that only persons who have developed the desirable qualities can enter into the kingdom of God. In the Caitanya-caritamrta, the devotee’s desirable qualities are described to be twenty-six in number. They are stated as follows: He is very kind; he does not quarrel with anyone; he accepts Krsna consciousness as the highest goal of life; he is equal to everyone; no one can find fault in his character; he is magnanimous, mild and always clean, internally and externally; he does not profess to possess anything in this material world; he is a benefactor to all living entities; he is peaceful and is a soul completely surrendered to Krsna; he has no material desire to fulfill; he is meek and humble, always steady, and has conquered the sensual activities; he does not eat more than required to maintain body and soul together; he is never mad after material identity; he is respectful to all others and does not demand respect for himself; he is very grave, very compassionate and very friendly; he is poetic; he is expert in all activities, and he is silent in nonsense. Similarly, in Srimad-Bhagavatam, Third Canto, Twenty-fifth Chapter, verse 21, the qualifications of a saintly person are mentioned. IT IS SAID THERE THAT A SAINTLY PERSON ELIGIBLE TO ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS VERY TOLERANT AND VERY KIND TO ALL LIVING ENTITIES. HE IS NOT PARTIAL; HE IS KIND BOTH TO HUMAN BEINGS AND TO ANIMALS. HE IS NOT SUCH A FOOL THAT HE WILL KILL A GOAT NARAYANA TO FEED A HUMAN NARAYANA, OR DARIDRA-NARAYANA. HE IS VERY KIND TO ALL LIVING ENTITIES; THEREFORE HE HAS NO ENEMY. HE IS VERY PEACEFUL. THESE ARE THE QUALITIES OF PERSONS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. That such a person gradually becomes liberated and enters the kingdom of God is confirmed in Srimad-Bhagavatam, Fifth Canto, Fifth Chapter, verse 2. The Srimad-Bhagavatam, Second Canto, Third Chapter, verse 24, also states that if a person does not cry or exhibit bodily changes after chanting the holy name of God without offense, it is to be understood that he is hardhearted and that therefore his heart does not change even after he chants the holy name of God, Hare Krsna. These bodily changes can take place due to ecstasy when we offenselessly chant the holy names of God: Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare

    730718BG.LON Lectures
    NOT THIS RASCALDOM, DARIDRA-NARAYANA. JUST LIKE ONE RASCAL HAS MANUFACTURED THIS DARIDRA-NARAYANA. THE POOR MAN HAS BECOME NARAYANA, AND THE GOAT NARAYANA IS KILLED FOR THEIR FEEDING. NOT THIS KIND OF SADHU. SUHRDAM SARVA-BHUTANAM. A SADHU WILL NOT ALLOW ANY KIND OF KILLING. See in the Christian religion, it is first injunction is “Thou shalt not kill.” If you want to become religious… They are simply killing, and still, they are claiming “Christian.” What kind of Christian? Simply their business is killing. So it is very difficult to find out a Christian, although they are claiming, I am “Christian.” It is very difficult. Because their business is killing. And Lord Jesus Christ ordered, first order is, “Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not covet.” Who is following?
    So sadhu is suhrdam sarva-bhutanam. Why he should allow animal killing? They are also living entities, but for their benefit, the so-called sadhu says, “The animal has no soul.” What is this nonsense? Animal has no soul? Why? Why animal has… What is the difference between animal and man? What are the symptoms of possessing the soul? They are all equal. The man also eats, the animal also eats. The man also sleeps, the animal also sleeps, the man also have sex life, the animals also have sex life. The man also defends, the animals also defends. So where is the deficiency that you say that the animal has no soul?

    741202SB.BOM Lectures
    So how this can be possible? This suhrdah sarva-dehinam is possible when one has surrendered himself to the Supreme Being. On His account, because he has surrendered to the Supreme Being, he is friend to all living being. Artificially you cannot. Artificially you select some section, the poorer section, and worship him like Narayana, and you call him daridra-narayana. But a devotee, if he has got vision of Narayana, he will see the daridra-narayana, the rich Narayana, the chaga-narayana, and the every Narayana, panditah sama-darsinah. WHY A SECTION SHOULD BE CALLED NARAYANA? If you have got such broader vision, that you are seeing Narayana in everything, then what the rich man has done? He is also Narayana. And the goat has… He is also Narayana. The cow, he is also Narayana. Then you should… IF YOU HAVE SUCH BROADER VISION, THAT YOU SEE EVERYWHERE NARAYANA, THEN WHY SHOULD YOU SPECIFY A SECTION, DARIDRA-NARAYANA?

    761025SB.VRN Lectures
    So vimanyavah suhrdah sadhavah. Sadhavah. Sadhu. Generally sadhu means devotee. Otherwise not sadhu. Sadhavah sadhu-bhusanah. There is a description of sadhu also. That is suhrdah sarva-bhutanam ajata-satru sadhava sadhu-bhusanah titiksavah karunikam. THESE ARE THE SYMPTOMS OF SADHU. VERY TOLERANT AND KIND, TITIKSAVA-KARUNIKA. AND SUHRDAH SARVA-BHUTANAM: AND HE’S FRIEND OF ALL LIVING ENTITIES, NOT THAT DARIDRA-NARAYANA SEVA AND COW-NARAYANA KILLING. IF YOU HAVE GOT SUCH VISION THAT NARAYANA IS EVERYWHERE, WHY SHOULD YOU DISTINGUISH DARIDRA-NARAYANA, DHANI-NARAYANA, COW-NARAYANA, GOAT-NARAYANA? IT IS NOT THAT FOR THE HUMANKIND JUST LIKE IT IS GOING ON, NATIONALITY. WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE “NATIONALITY”? “NATIONALITY” MEANS ONE WHO IS BORN IN THAT COUNTRY. THIS IS THE GENERAL DEFINITION. SO WHY YOU ARE GIVING PROTECTION TO THE HUMAN BEING AND KILLING THE COWS AND GOATS? THEY ARE NOT NATIONAL? THIS MEANS SHORT-SIGHTED. BECAUSE THEY HAVEN’T GOT KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS THEY ARE ALWAYS CRIPPLED. They do not know what is the meaning of nationalism, but they are pushing on nationalism. Rascalism.
    Here is nationalism, that isavasyam idam sarvam: everything belongs to God. And Krsna says bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram. He’s the proprietor. He’s the proprietor; everyone is His subject. Everyone requires protection. That is nationalism. Not that crippled ideas: “I am good, my brother is good, and everyone is bad.” That is not nationalism. This is going on. My nation,

    730126IN.CAL Lectures
    Prabhupada: … and sat means om tat sat, the Absolute Truth. Sannyasa. (aside:) So stop that sound. So renouncement, simply giving up something, is not very good idea. You must have something better. Param drstva nivartate. If you get something better, then you give up something inferior. Our Vaisnava philosophy, renouncement means renouncement of sense gratification. THE MAYAVADA SANNYASA MEANS KARMA-TYAGA, SIMPLY READING VEDANTA PHILOSOPHY, SANKHYA PHILOSOPHY, AND EVERYTHING GIVEN UP. BUT OUR VAISNAVA PHILOSOPHY IS GIVING UP THE WRONG THING AND ACCEPTING THE RIGHT THING. SIDE BY SIDE. SIMPLY IF I GIVE UP, IT WILL NOT STAY VERY LONG TIME. IF I SIMPLY BY SENTIMENT GIVE UP, BRAHMA SATYAM JAGAN MITHYA, “THIS WORLD IS FALSE AND BRAHMAN IS THE REAL, REALITY,” SO THERE ARE SO MANY SANNYASIS, WE SEE, THEY GIVE UP THE SO-CALLED MITHYA WORLD AND COME TO THE BRAHMAN REALIZATION BY MEDITATION, BY MEDITATION, MEDITATION… THEN MEDITATION MEANS HOSPITAL AND SCHOOL. BECAUSE THERE IS NO BRAHMAN, THERE IS NO REALITY. SO AFTER MUCH MEDITATION, (HE) COMES TO THE CONCLUSION THAT “NOW I AM A SANNYASI. I MUST OPEN SCHOOLS, COLLEGE AND DARIDRA-NARAYANA SEVA AND GOAT-NARAYANA KILLING.” THIS KIND OF SANNYASA HAS NO MEANING. DARIDRA-NARAYANA SEVA. BY KILLING GOAT NARAYANA. GOAT IS NOT NARAYANA. SIMPLY DARIDRAS ARE NARAYANA. IF YOU ACCEPT ONE AS NARAYANA, WHY SHOULD YOU NOT ACCEPT THE OTHER AS NARAYANA?
    SO THIS KIND OF FALSE SANNYASA IS NOT ACCEPTED BY THE VAISNAVAS. VAISNAVAS, THEY ACCEPT SANNYASA FOR BETTER ACTIVITIES. FOR BETTER ACTIVITIES MEANS DEDICATED LIFE FOR SATISFYING THE SUPREME LORD. MAM EKAM SARANAM VRAJA. ANYONE WHO HAS SACRIFICED HIS LIFE FOR KRSNA, HE’S SANNYASA. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita: anasritah karma-phalam karyam karma karoti yah, sa sannyasi. Na niragnir na cakriyah. One who has given up… A sannyasi is not supposed to cook. Ni, niragnih. And na niragnir na yogi. But anasritah karma-phalam. Tyagi means karma-phala tyaga. This is tyaga, real tyaga. Suppose you are working. You are doing some business and getting lakhs of rupees’ profit. If you can give up that profit for Krsna, that is sannyasa. Otherwise, “I shall enjoy fully the profit and I have become a great devotee”? No. Sannyasa means, as it is stated, anasritah karma-phalam. Karma-phalam. There must be some karma-phala, whatever you do. There must be some result, bad or good. So anasritah, without taking shelter of the result of activities, karyam karma karo… “It is my duty.” Just like Arjuna did. Arjuna understood that Krsna wanted the fight. He took it, karyam, that “I, this, this, I must do. This I must do. Krsna wants it. Because my business is to satisfy Krsna. I cannot become nonviolent as I wanted to become falsely, ‘Krsna, I don’t want to fight with my cousin-brothers, my nephews, my grandfather.’ That was my sense gratification.” Krsna immediately said, “What kind of nonsense you are talking, that you won’t fight, won’t fight? This is not good.” Kutas tva kasmalam idam visame… “What kind of nonsense you are speaking? You have come to fight in the battlefield, and now you are talking that nonviolence. So don’t talk all this nonsense because you are My friend, My cousin-brother. It does not look well.” Anarya-justam asvargyam akirti-karam. “These things are done by the anaryas, not by a gentleman.” Anarya-justam akirti-karam. “You, this, this will be infamous for you. Don’t do like that.” Then He explained to him Bhagavad-gita. And when he understood, then he took sannyasa. What is that sannyasa? Karisye vacanam tava: “Yes, I’ll fight.” That’s all.

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    Room Conversation

    January 17, 1971, Allahabad

    Prabhupada: Vivekananda has influence here in higher class, among the educated class. They talk about Vivekananda and this and that, nonsense. In your country, fortunately, that opposition was not there. There was no influence of Vivekananda class men. Here amongst the educated class there is influence of all these rascals, Vivekananda, Aurobindo, and… That is one defect. But in the mass there is no influence. In the class, educated class. BECAUSE EDUCATED CLASS MEANS WINE, WOMEN, MEAT, AND VIVEKANANDA ALLOWS THIS. THAT IS THE POINT. VIVEKANANDA HAS NO DISTINCTION OF EATING. “EAT ANY… ALL BRAHMAN, ALL NARAYANA. YOU ARE NARAYANA. GOAT IS NARAYANA. SO NARAYANA IS GOING IN THE BELLY OF NARAYANA. WHAT IS THE WRONG? ONE NARAYANA IS GOING, BEING ABSORBED BY ANOTHER NARAYANA.” BUT HE IS NOT AGREEABLE TO BE EATEN BY A TIGER, ANOTHER TIGER NARAYANA.
    Hamsaduta: They actually say that?
    Prabhupada: Yes.
    Hamsaduta: “One Narayana is being absorbed by another.”
    Prabhupada: One respectable pleader in Allahabad, I said, “Why you are eating this?” We also find that he’s a very religious man. So I inquired. He was just like our father; still, I inquired. He said, “No, what is the wrong there? Narayana, Brahman. So one Brahman is going into the belly of another Brahman, Brahman being absorbed, brahmeti.” So they have got so dangerous theory. But still, we shall not hesitate to kick on their face but because they are making a propaganda, it should be peaceful. But I become very much agitated with this nonsense because I know they are creating havoc. Hare Krsna. Come on. (door closes) So many rascals. Hare Krsna Hare Krsna..

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    Dr. Patel: But sir, I want to ask a question. In Bhagavad-gita He says, “I am in them, and I am not in them also.” That means, sir, both His, all the beings are in the…

    Prabhupada: No, “not in them” for the understanding of these rascals whose takes it that because Narayana is everyone, heart, then everyone is Narayana, daridra-narayana.

    Dr. Patel: Not daridra.

    Prabhupada: Or to warn these rascals, He says, “I am not there. I am not there.”

    Dr. Patel: It is not like that, that He is there…

    Prabhupada: Because he is a foolish man, if you say “Because Narayana is there, everyone is Narayana,” he will misunderstand. Therefore Krsna says, “No, I am not there.” Na caham tesv avasthitah. This is the…

    Dr. Patel: Would it not be considered like this, sir, that He is in the Golok as well as here?

    Prabhupada: Yes, Goloka, position of, goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhuto, that is Krsna.

    Dr. Patel: Akhilatma-bhuto.

    Prabhupada: But don’t take that because akhilatma bhuto, Narayana is in the dog, therefore I have to worship dog. This is going on. Daridra-narayana. And why not dhani-narayana? What is the…. This foolishness is going on. And Narayana is everywhere. If you have such a, I mean to say, advanced vision, that Narayana is everywhere–that is also mentioned; therefore you should keep respect–then why do you make discrimination, that only daridra-narayana? Why not dhani-narayana?

    Indian man: Last time you gave the example of the curd and the milk. That was very good example.

    Prabhupada: Yes. Why the…, not dhani-narayana? Or the dog Narayana or the goat Narayana? Goat Narayana cut his throat; fish Narayana cut his throat…

    Dr. Patel: Atmavat sarva-bhutesu, sir.

    Prabhupada: These rascals are going on. Therefore Krsna says, “I am not there, naham tesv avasthitah,” to teach these rascals. Otherwise, they’ll misunder…

    Dr. Patel: Does it not mean, sir, that naham tesv avasthitah, “I am staying in Goloka”?

    Prabhupada: No, no. He says, maya tatam idam sarvam, “I am everywhere, but still I am not there.” Because these rascals will misunderstand.

    Adi 7.103 Lord Caitanya in Five Features
    MAYAVADI SANNYASIS ADDRESS EACH OTHER AS NARAYANA. Whenever they see another sannyasi, they offer him respect by calling om namo narayanaya (“I offer my respect unto you, Narayana”), although they know perfectly well what kind of Narayana he is. NARAYANA HAS FOUR HANDS, BUT ALTHOUGH THEY ARE PUFFED UP WITH THE IDEA OF BEING NARAYANA, THEY CANNOT EXHIBIT MORE THAN TWO. SINCE THEIR PHILOSOPHY DECLARES THAT NARAYANA AND AN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING ARE BOTH ON THE SAME LEVEL, THEY SOMETIMES USE THE TERM DARIDRA-NARAYANA (“POOR NARAYANA”), WHICH WAS INVENTED BY A SO-CALLED SVAMI WHO DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT VEDANTA PHILOSOPHY. Therefore although all these Mayavadi sannyasis who called themselves Narayana were actually unaware of the position of Narayana, due to their austerities Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu enabled them to understand Him to be Narayana Himself. Lord Caitanya is certainly the Supreme Personality of Godhead Narayana appearing as a devotee of Narayana, and thus the Mayavadi sannyasis, understanding that He was directly Narayana Himself whereas they were false, puffed-up Narayanas, spoke to Him as follows.

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  2. Mahesh Raja says:

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    Prabhupada: Just see how rascal they are. MY GURU MAHARAJA EVERY STEP CONDEMNED THIS RAMAKRISHNA MISSION AND VIVEKANANDA. HE SAID FRANKLY THAT IF THERE ARE ANY IMPEDIMENTS FOR OUR MOVEMENT, THAT IS THIS GANDHI AND VIVEKANANDA. HE SAID FRANKLY. HODGE-PODGE. GANDHI’S ALSO HODGE-PODGE. HE WAS A POLITICIAN, AND IN POLITICS HE MIXED SOME SPIRITUAL IDEAS, HODGE-PODGE. AND THIS VIVEKANANDA WAS ALSO POLITICIAN. HIS NAME WAS RECORDED IN THE GOVERNMENT AS “SANNYASI-POLITICIAN.” Because after returning from America, he began to preach to make the poor man rich, and these weak, fatty, and so on, exercise. So the government took it that he’s, under the dress of a sannyasi, he’s preaching social and political upliftment. So his name was recorded as “sannyasi- politician.” And his name was also recorded, “political saint,” Gandhi. After all, the British government, they were very intelligent. They could understand what is what. Otherwise, how they were managing this big empire? Very intelligent, there is no doubt about it. And actually they were intelligent. When they were managing, we were happy, actually. Nobody can deny it. Although they were exploiting. But nobody could understand. Everyone was feeling happy. And as soon as they left, everyone is unhappy. That distinction I can give evidence, I can, from my personal experience. Things were very, very nice. Calcutta, oh, it was so nice city. Now it is hell. It is same Calcutta. Why it is now hell? Hidden(?) garden, that was a nice garden. So… Everywhere hell, only hell. Calcutta was considered the nicest city in India, better than Bombay, but it has become now hell. The streets, especially those quarters in our temple.

  3. Sudarsana Das Vanacari says:

    This is a steep descent into Freemasonry and Satanic world of the Rothschilds and British destruction of Sanatana Dhama and subsequent promotion of fake religiosity by fake, homosex, agents of Rothschilds.

    Vivekananda (Narendra Datta), Krishnamurti, Aurobindo, Shirdi Sai Baba, Ghanashyam Pande (Swaminarayan). Vivekananda was a member of Freemason Hope and Anchor Lodge #1 (Calcutta) and Kathiawari, homosex, Jew, and Rothschilds puppet Gandhi was a member of Freemason Arjuna Lodge and Thomas Paine Lodge…Calcutta. Rothschilds puppet Annie Besant (Theosophical Society) also a member of Freemason Thomas Paine Lodge. Theosophical Society was created by Jewish Rothschilds’ agent Max Theon.

    All of these past, fake, homosex “Gooroos” are the NEW FAKE ROTHSCHILDS’ SAMPRADAYA, FISKCON WANTS ALL OF IT’S UNFORTUNATE, BRAINWASHED DUPES TO WORSHIP AS IT REFLECTS THE PRESENT HOMO-SEX, FAKE GOOROOS THAT ARE ROTHSCHILDS’ AGENTS OF THE PRESENT DAY.

    These fake Crypto Jew, Indian (and western) ‘house niggers’ that are promoting these Rothschilds’ agents of darkness under the mantle of Rothschilds and the British Crown are ALL TRAITORS TO HUMANITY, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur Maharaj, The Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Sampradaya and great offenders of His Divine Grace A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who constantly condemned these Freemason financed and funded Rothschilds created fakes to destroy Sanatana Dharma.

    These traitors should all be hanged!

  4. Charles Dowson says:

    Notice of course that there are no solutions presented here just observations of contradictory themes by maya that strongly contradict while undermining the teachings of Lord Chaitanya and Srila Prabhupada.

    If we are sincerely concerned that a truly threatening situation exists that is bent on removing those said teachings then logically we should be active reinforcing of those teachings. That reinforcing actions are not proposed or formulated here then we are surrendering to the opposition. Srila Prabhupada never surrendered to the opposition. Simply following that example makes mayas howling just like that of a jackal in the desert. Who will listen to that? To expose the existence of an enemy simply using sastra does not convince anyone that we are worthy of anything but talk.

  5. Mahesh Raja says:

    Charles Dowson : To expose the existence of an enemy simply using sastra does not convince anyone that we are worthy of anything but talk.

    Mahesh: Not true. We follow Srila Prabhupada’s instructions. Srila Prabhupada says EXPOSE : we EXPOSE: results are not for US to judge:

    “Guru-mukha-padma-vakya, cittete koriya aikya, ara na koriho mane asa. Don’t think of any nonsense. Simply execute what your guru has said. THAT is success.”
    (28th January, 1977, Room Conversation)

    “So you all write very strongly vehemently. Even it is a little offensive, still these rascals should be taught a lesson. Yes. They’re misleading. Godlessness.” (Conversations April 19, 1973)

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    721016SB.VRN Lectures
    SO WHEN YOU BECOME ACTUALLY PREACHER OF GOD CONSCIOUSNESS, YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY COMPROMISE. YOU MUST CALL THE SPADE A SPADE. Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja is one of the mahajanas. Out of the twelve mahajanas, he’s one of them. Because he was very bold. He was not afraid of his demonic father. He chastised him in so many ways. But he was never afraid. So just like our people are being persecuted in Australia. You know? They have been put into jail because they are preaching Hare Krsna. So this is not very easy thing, easy-going. My Guru Maharaja, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, he did not like that his disciples would be easy-going, cheap Vaisnava.

    Note: ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT
    Bg 10.4-5 P The Opulence of the Absolute
    Asammoha, freedom from doubt and delusion, can be achieved when one is not hesitant and when he understands the transcendental philosophy. Slowly but surely he becomes free from bewilderment. Nothing should be accepted blindly; everything should be accepted with care and with caution. Ksama, forgiveness, should be practiced, and one should excuse the minor offenses of others. Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are for the benefit of others. Facts should not be misrepresented. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. THE TRUTH SHOULD BE SPOKEN IN A STRAIGHT AND FORWARD WAY, SO THAT OTHERS WILL UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHAT THE FACTS ARE. IF A MAN IS A THIEF AND IF PEOPLE ARE WARNED THAT HE IS A THIEF, THAT IS TRUTH. ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT. Truthfulness demands that the facts be presented as they are for the benefit of others. That is the definition of truth.

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    So our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to become intelligent, not to remain mūḍhas, and to expose these rascal mūḍhas. That’s this, our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So you must be prepared. While making propaganda, EXPOSE these mūḍhas. That is one of the service of Kṛṣṇa. Don’t remain foolish. Wherever there is required, fight with these mūḍhas and tell them rightly, straightforward, that “You are mūḍhas.”
    Thank you very much. (end)

    Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/classes/cc/adi/1/9/mayapur/april/02/1975

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    SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA

    730503mw.la Conversations
    Prabhupada: No, it is Sanskrit. And in Bengal it is called vane asiya raja.(?) “In the forest a jackal has become king.” They are like that. Nila-varna-srigalavat.(?) When… There is big story about this jackal. I will tell you some. A jackal came in the village and he fell in the tub where, what is called, the water? No, no. The water man keeps the water for dipping, making
    little bluish. For coloring. That blue, blue. So the washerman kept the dye water in a big tub, and the jackal fell in it. So jackal fell in it; he became blue, all blue. So he fled away, and all the animals said, “What is this animal? What is the animal? What is that animal? Oh?” All, even lion became surprised. “We have not seen this.” “So who are you, sir?” “I AM SENT BY GOD TO RULE OVER YOU.” “OH?” SO THEY BEGAN TO WORSHIP HIM AS GOD, AS LEADER. Then one day other jackals, they were crying, “Wa, wa,” but the jackals cannot stop. If others jackals cry, the jackal cannot stop. So he also began to “Wa, wa.” Oh, then, they, oh, this rascal is a jackal. Yavat kincin na bhasate. That these rascals are jackals. Now they are talking nonsense. We can detect that “Here is a jackal.” SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA. NOT ONLY SCIENTIFIC, ALL POLITICAL THINGS, SOCIAL THINGS, EVERYTHING. THEY SHOULD BE ALL KICKED OUT. THEY SHOULD BE REPLACED BY KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS. THEN PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY. THIS SHOULD BE OUR PROGRAM. Our, this propaganda means to make people happy. It is not a business, to make business and take some money. And so many jackals have been arrested and resigned in your… You know that? Many jackals have been obliged to resign their post in the government.

    731209SB.LA Lectures
    So this Krsna consciousness movement is a challenge to all the rascals and fools, that’s all. SO THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN THIS MOVEMENT VERY SERIOUSLY, THEY SHOULD BE VERY SOBER AND UNDERSTAND AT LEAST YOU MUST EXPOSE ALL THESE RASCALS. THAT WILL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY KRSNA.
    Thank you very much. (end)

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    721016SB.VRN Lectures
    SO WHEN YOU BECOME ACTUALLY PREACHER OF GOD CONSCIOUSNESS, YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY COMPROMISE. YOU MUST CALL THE SPADE A SPADE. Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja is one of the mahajanas. Out of the twelve mahajanas, he’s one of them. Because he was very bold. He was not afraid of his demonic father. He chastised him in so many ways. But he was never afraid. So just like our people are being persecuted in Australia. You know? They have been put into jail because they are preaching Hare Krsna. SO THIS IS NOT VERY EASY THING, EASY-GOING. MY GURU MAHARAJA, BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI GOSVAMI MAHARAJA, HE DID NOT LIKE THAT HIS DISCIPLES WOULD BE EASY-GOING, CHEAP VAISNAVA.

    Note: BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. THEN YOUR GURU MAHARAJA WILL BE GLORIFIED.
    751226mw.san Conversations
    Prabhupada: Yes. That you have to prove. You can eulogize your Guru Maharaja, but you have to learn it and face the public and be strong to defend yourself. That is success. Not by praising your Guru Maharaja. You’ll praise your Guru Maharaja. That is not very difficult. BUT BE VICTORIOUS TO THE OPPOSING ELEMENTS. THEN YOU WILL PRAISE YOUR GURU MAHARAJA NICELY. AT HOME, YOU CAN PRAISE YOUR GURU MAHARAJA, AND GURU MAHARAJA BE SATISFIED, “OH, MY DISCIPLES ARE PRAISING ME.” THAT IS NOT VERY…. THAT IS GOOD. RESPECTFUL. THAT IS THE QUALIFICATION. BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. THEN YOUR GURU MAHARAJA WILL BE GLORIFIED.

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    SB 4.14.41 T The Story of King Vena

    brahmanah sama-drk santo
    dinanam samupeksakah
    sravate brahma tasyapi
    bhinna-bhandat payo yatha

    SYNONYMS
    brahmanah–a brahmana; sama-drk–equipoised; santah–peaceful; dinanam–the poor; samupeksakah–grossly neglecting; sravate–diminishes; brahma–spiritual power; tasya–his; api–certainly; bhinna-bhandat–from a cracked pot; payah–water; yatha–just as.

    TRANSLATION
    The great sages began to think that although a brahmana is peaceful and impartial because he is equal to everyone, it is still not his duty to neglect poor humans. BY SUCH NEGLECT, A BRAHMANA’S SPIRITUAL POWER DIMINISHES, JUST AS WATER KEPT IN A CRACKED POT LEAKS OUT.

    PURPORT
    Brahmanas, the topmost section of human society, are mostly devotees. They are generally unaware of the happenings within the material world because they are always busy in their activities for spiritual advancement. Nonetheless, when there is a calamity in human society, they CANNOT remain impartial. If they do not do something to relieve the distressed condition of human society, it is said that due to such neglect their spiritual knowledge DIMINISHES. Almost all the sages go to the Himalayas for their personal benefit, but Prahlada Maharaja said that he did not want liberation alone. He decided to wait until he was able to deliver all the fallen souls of the world.

  6. Charles Dowson says:

    Charles Dowson : To expose the existence of an enemy simply using sastra does not convince anyone that we are worthy of anything but talk.

    Mahesh: Not true. We follow Srila Prabhupada’s instructions. Srila Prabhupada says EXPOSE : we EXPOSE: results are not for US to judge,

    Selective following of the spiritual masters’ instructions is a first-class way of avoiding confrontation with those one is exposing. It is also the duty of the person or persons doing the exposing to engage in remedial measures that would benefit the whole world. That was always the procedure followed by Srila Prabhupada. Otherwise simply exposing then becomes simple half measures only. One cannot leave the results up to Krsna and or to Srila Prabhupada. Therefore, please expose the practical solutions that all of the world may understand and benefit from.

  7. Mahesh Raja says:

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    They are all cheaters. Vivekananda had no knowledge even to…, what is to give. He was such a rascal. And he went to America and he picked up three women, that’s all. That is his achievement. One Sister Nivedita, his private secretary. That’s all.This is all cheating. If you do not know… They go for wine and women, that’s
    all.

  8. Maehsh Raja says:

    Charles Dowson: Selective following of the spiritual masters’ instructions is a first-class way of avoiding confrontation with those one is exposing. It is also the duty of the person or persons doing the exposing to engage in remedial measures that would benefit the whole world. That was always the procedure followed by Srila Prabhupada.

    Mahesh: Giving the Quotes of Srila Prabhupada is doing THAT benefit: Srila Prabhupada is in his Instructions:

    Adi 1.35 The Spiritual Masters
    The SERVICE of the spiritual master IS ESSENTIAL. IF THERE IS NO CHANCE TO SERVE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER DIRECTLY, A DEVOTEE SHOULD SERVE HIM BY REMEMBERING HIS INSTRUCTIONS. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. IN HIS ABSENCE, THEREFORE, HIS WORDS OF DIRECTION SHOULD BE THE PRIDE OF THE DISCIPLE.

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