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Room Conversation
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March 12, 1972, Vṛndāvana
Prabhupāda: There is a book, perhaps you might have read, Aquarian Gospel. So in that book I have read there is a Greek word, Christo. Christo… Sometimes we don’t say Kṛṣṇa, we say Kṛṣṭa.
Dr. Kapoor: Kṛṣṭa, yes, in Bengali particularly.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So this Christo word means “anointed.” Kṛṣṇa’s face is anointed. And love also. And this Christ title was given to Jesus on account of his love for God. So on the whole, the conclusion is Kṛṣṇa or Christo means “love of Godhead.”
Dr. Kapoor: No, Mandakara(?) has tried to argue that the entire Kṛṣṇa religion of Śrīmad-Bhāgavata has been borrowed from the West.
Yamunā: How is this possible?
Dr. Kapoor: Eh?
Yamunā: How does he do that chronologically? How is that possible? It’s impossible to do that.
Dr. Kapoor: There was some exchange, some people came from Greece here, and just…
Guru dāsa: But the Greek civilization was not developed five thousand years ago.
Yamunā: It wasn’t even developed.
Dr. Kapoor: But he doesn’t take it so back as five thousand years.
Guru dāsa: So anybody can say anything. (guest laughs)
Prabhupāda: Our authorities, they accept Mandakara(?) is not as good as Rāmānujācārya, Madhvācārya, Śaṅkarācārya. We… Nobody can give credit to Mandakara more than these ācāryas or Caitanya. So how his proposition can be accepted?
Dr. Kapoor: So he was knighted, you see, by the British government.
Prabhupāda: Yes, just see. (guest laughs) Just like Nehru bribed one Mukerjee, Rādhā-kuṇḍa Mukerjee, doctor, to write book where he has supported cow slaughter.
Dr. Kapoor: He supported. Hmm, hmm.
Guru dāsa: If I was the Western government and you handed the most perfect knowledge to me, I would knight you also, in the name of myself. Certainly I would knight you.
Prabhupāda: So Rādhā-kuṇḍa Mukerjee, he has supported cow slaughter. He was given a post, made a parliament member first of all. So this poor man, five hundred rupees per month, he accepted. Then he induced that “You take more money, write like this.” So if you pay money… British government’s whole policy was that if the Indians are kept strict Hindus, it is next to impossible to govern them. So therefore they adopted this policy. They changed the whole policy how the Hindu will think everything mentioned in the śāstra is nonsense. They have trained up, and Nehru is the first-class trainee. Everything mentioned in the śāstra, the Arya-samaj, they also wrote Saptartha (indistinct), so many. And Dr. Radhakrishnan also. All the scholars, they would never mention any śāstra more than once within one thousand years. That means…
Dr. Kapoor: Otherwise they would not be scholars.
Prabhupāda: No. Otherwise they will not be scholars.
Guru dāsa: At any rate, where it came from is…
Prabhupāda: Because according to Darwin’s theory, your forefather was monkey. So their theory is that long before there were monkeys only. How such high philosophical thoughts could come?
Dr. Kapoor: It is true that in England there were only monkeys there. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: On this theory, all their philosophy is going on. So if they give credit that Indians were so high scholars and philosophers, then the whole theory is spoiled. Because brain is developing, and the background of brain was monkey. So how such philosophical highly moral scholarly work can be done? And this is going on. If Bhāgavata is accepted as we accept that five thousand years ago it was written, then their whole civilization becomes topsy-turvy.
Dr. Kapoor: About the Bhāgavata also he says that there is the mention of Buddha in Bhāgavata and many descendants of Buddha who lived…
Prabhupāda: The Buddhists, they don’t accept that verse. Kīkaṭeṣu bhaviṣyati, buddho nāmnā�jana-sutaḥ. They do not accept. About Buddha, in Hindu literature, Vedic literature, there is mention, bhaviśyati, feature(?). That is insult to them. Therefore, they do not accept this verse. Neither we say Buddha is incarnation of God. Keśava dhṛta-buddha-śarīra. They do not accept this. They think it is insult.
Dr. Kapoor: Insulting them.
Prabhupāda: Yes, Hindu gods… But in one Buddha temple, I have seen in Penang, there is Viṣṇu-mūrti. Yes, four hundred years old. That is a Buddhist temple.
Guru dāsa: Dr. Chandra has found many.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Guru dāsa: Dr. Chandra has found many Viṣṇu-mūrtis in Buddhist temples.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Yamunā: Especially in Malaysia.
Prabhupāda: Malaysia.
Yamunā: Especially in Malaysia, so many.
Prabhupāda: Malaysia, I speak of Malaysia, Penang is in Malaysia. Dr. Chandra (indistinct).
Guru dāsa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So they worship Viṣṇu. And Buddha…Buddha-dharma is an offshoot of the Vedic religion. That is the proof, they worship Viṣṇu. Oṁ tad viṣṇoḥ paramaṁ padaṁ sadā.
Guru dāsa: But to this man, he says that’s the proof that Vaiṣṇava is an offshoot of Buddhism, that Viṣṇu is in the Buddhist temple. He can say that.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Guru dāsa: This Caitanya who has written this book can say that since Viṣṇu is in the Buddhist temple that this proves that Viṣṇu is an offshoot of Buddhism.
Prabhupāda: Yes, he can say like that. But the offshoot he cannot say. Viṣṇu is long, long ago mentioned, Buddha is later. Buddha can be from Viṣṇu, but Viṣṇu cannot be from Buddha.
Guru dāsa: So how do they speak of that chronologically? They don’t accept that Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam as five thousand years old?
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