Prabhupada: …can you think about the living pulse which is beating, the heart, heart failure? Why don’t you bring it into palpitation again? If you study that air…. You are…. Air you bring artificially. Push it. Why don’t you do it if you are so great scientist? Is it very difficult? So in anything, air is fi…. Just like in the tire tube. Air is finished. Push it, air. It is all right. So do you think it is air, the palpitation? You are so foolish? And passing as a scientist. Air can be replaced. It is difficult? Just like tire tube air, a huge quantity to work. You immediately, within a second…. So why do you say, “Now, now the breathing is stopped.” Breathing is stopped, air stopped. What is their answer? Hm?
Guru-krpa: They have no answer.
Pusta Krishna: The cells have died. Tiny cells in the body have died.
Prabhupada: Then don’t say that, “Breathing is stopped. Therefore he is dead.” Don’t talk nonsense. Why do you talk like that, “Now breathing is stopped. He’s dead”? Talk in right language if you are scientist. Why you are talking like that, “The air is stopped. The breathing is stopped. Therefore dead”? That’s not a fact. So you are stating which is not a fact. Why you claim that you are scientist? That is the challenge. Hm? Then again you come to the blood. What is blood? Red water. So if you say that this, that, so many jugglery of words, so manufacture. Water mix with the red color and give these, these so many rascal things.
Guru-krpa: They don’t have artificial blood. I don’t think they can make artificial blood.
Prabhupada: Nothing. Artificial blood…. Superficially it is red water. So if red water is the life, then why you are spoiling so much blood? Keep it scientifically and push it into the dead body. I say it is, that way, it is the red water, nothing but red water. Urine is white water. I am coming to the five elements, air, water…. Then what is this bone? Earth. You can manufacture bone, hard bone, with earth or wood or something plastic. So we are analyzing the combination of the body, so everything you can manufacture. But where is the life you can manufacture? Why do you say? That is our challenge. All the ingredients of the body you can manufacture exactly like that. Ultimately you can give the beauty also of the woman or the man. But where is life? Bring life by all these things. Then I will say that you are scientist. Otherwise cheater, simply bluffing people. This thing should be stopped. Where you get the information that this, from matter life is possible. “In future.” But in future…. In inceptive condition you show something. Just like formerly they were flying balloons. So because they were flying, they could say that “Future we shall fly a big city.” And in the history we can see that that is not impossible, because in the inceptive condition or initiative condition we see that big things can be flown. But here you cannot even prepare an ant. You have not been able to prepare even a small ant, germ. Show me. So why do you say, “In future I shall do it”?
Pusta Krishna: Some of these creature don’t even have hearts.
Prabhupada: And how do you say? They have everything. You have no intelligence to understand. Everything, all anatomic physiology is there, even the small full stop. You cannot see even, microbe. That is God’s creation.
Pusta Krishna: You mean to say…
Prabhupada: I have seen very minute, walking very…, exactly like a big…
Guru-krpa: In Vrndavana, when we were staying at Bon’s place, there was big colony of ants. Ants, thousands of them.
Prabhupada: Yes, they have got all the sense, all the sympathy for eating, sleeping, mating, they have got all intelligence.
Pusta Krishna: What I mean to say is, physiologically speaking, at least from biological viewpoint, some of these creatures don’t even have hearts. They’re much easier to manufacture, the parts of their bodies.
Prabhupada: You say there is no heart just like you say no soul. That is your vers…. I say that “When he is doing everything like a human being he has got everything.” It is your insufficient knowledge that you say that…. Just like you say there is no soul. But that is your insufficient knowledge. That’s not the fact. Krishna says, isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese ’rjuna [Bg. 18.61]. When Isvara is in everyone’s heart, how you can…. Hrd-dese. How you say there is no heart? That is nonsense, another nonsense.
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