Srila Prabhupada: “There is no question of overpopulation. This is a false theory. If God can create, He can maintain also. And actually, this is the fact. I am travelling all over the world. There are so much vacant places upon the surface of the globe that, that ten times more than the present population can be easily maintained. But we, we, we do not know how to use it.“
OVERPOPULATION AND CROWD CONTROL
By Damagosa das
David Attenborough Calls Humans a “Plague Upon the Earth“. It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde.” Either we limit our population growth or the natural world will do it for us, and the natural world is doing it for us right now.
In excerpts from an interview with the Radio Times, the 86-year-old Attenborough says that humans are a “plague on the earth,” and that population control will be necessary to curb rampant growth across the globe. According to his own statement, he should be wiped out first. Than we have one Plague less. These type of statements, as well as “Empty half the Earth of its humans, it’s the only way to save the planet” are certainly of a demoniac kind.
Nobody told him that world population growth is already slowing in nearly every part of the world. In many countries, demographers worry more about a shrinking population than an exploding one.
Americans haven’t gotten the memo, either. A Center for Biological Diversity poll released last week reports that a majority of Americans worry about population growth sparking global warming, killing off endangered species or causing other environmental mayhem. And, they say, we have a “moral responsibility” to do something about it.
There are many quotes by atheistic people who think we need to “minimize the population” by certain unmentionable methods. These people are of the demoniac mentality and do not know what is to be done nor what is not to be done. The Bhagavad-gita, Capter 16, says:
In this world there are two kinds of created beings. One is called the divine and the other demonic. Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done. Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them.
They say that this world is unreal, that there is no foundation and that there is no God in control. It is produced of sex desire, and has no cause other than lust. Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world.
The demoniac, taking shelter of insatiable lust, pride and false prestige, and being thus illusioned, are always sworn to unclean work, attracted by the impermanent. They believe that to gratify the senses unto the end of life is the prime necessity of human civilization. Thus there is no end to their anxiety. Being bound by hundreds and thousands of desires, by lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for sense gratification. (BG 16.13-15)
The demoniac person thinks: So much wealth do I have today, and I will gain more according to my schemes. So much is mine now, and it will increase in the future, more and more. He is my enemy, and I have killed him; and my other enemy will also be killed. I am the lord of everything, I am the enjoyer, I am perfect, powerful and happy. I am the richest man, surrounded by aristocratic relatives. There is none so powerful and happy as I am. I shall perform sacrifices, I shall give some charity, and thus I shall rejoice. In this way, such persons are deluded by ignorance.
Here is what the Lords pure devotee, Srila Prabhupada, has to say:
April 8 1973 NY lecture….
Just like one father. Father may have got twenty children. Twenty sons. Formerly, they used to have one hundred sons. Now the fathers have no such power. But in the, up to five thousand years ago, King Dhṛtarāṣṭra gave birth to one hundred sons. Now we are… We say, we are saying that we are overpopulated. But that’s not the fact. At the present moment, where there is the question of overpopulation? Now how many of us giving birth hundreds of children? No. Nobody. But formerly, a father could give birth to one hundred children. So there is no question of overpopulation. And even there is overpopulation, we get information from the Vedas: eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān. That one chief living entity, God, He can maintain innumerable living entities.
There is no question of overpopulation. This is a false theory. If God can create, He can maintain also. And actually, this is the fact. I am travelling all over the world. There are so much vacant places upon the surface of the globe that, that ten times more than the present population can be easily maintained. But we, we, we do not know how to use it. In Africa, in Australia, in your America, enough land still lying. But because we have encroached upon the land of Kṛṣṇa, the difficulty’s there. China is overpopulated. India is overpopulated. But we, if we take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, these difficulties will be over within a second.
Kṛṣṇa consciousness means to take everything Kṛṣṇa’s. I am also Kṛṣṇa’s. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Actually, that is the fact. Everything… Kṛṣṇa means God. Everything belongs to God. I also belong to God. Īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam [Īśo mantra 1]. Everything belongs to God. That’s a fact. But we do not not accept the fact. We take something illusory. Therefore, it is called māyā.
Just like the Americans. They are claiming this land is for the American group. Similarly, other nations, they’re… but the land actually belongs to God. The land, the sky, the water, and the products in the land, in the sky, in the water, everything belongs to God. And we are children of God. We have got the right to live at the expense of father. Just like we live, small children. They live at the cost of father. Similarly, we also live by the arrangement of God. Why should we claim that this is our property?
This is the idea of spiritual communism. In Bhāgavata these things are stated, how to feel spiritual communism. In the spiritual communism… The present communists, they are thinking of the human being only. And the animals are being sent to the slaughterhouse. Although the human being and the animal is born in the same land… Actually, they are also nationals. National means one who’s born in that particular land. So why not these animals, nationals? But because they have no Kṛṣṇa consciousness, they cannot think so broadly. They think nationalism means it is limited to the human being, not to the animals, not to the trees.
But when you become Kṛṣṇa conscious you understand that the trees, the plants the reptiles, the aquatics, the human beings, the beasts, everyone, each and everyone, part and parcel of God.
The Georgia Guidestones Which Advocate A Maximum Human Population Of 500 Million
30 Population Control Quotes That Show That The Elite Truly Believe That Humans Are A Plague Upon The Earth
January 24, 2013 by Michael Snyder
There is a clear consensus among the global elite that overpopulation is the primary cause of the most important problems that the world is facing and that something desperately needs to be done about it. They truly believe that humans are a plague upon the earth and that we will literally destroy the planet if we are left to our own devices. To the elite, everything from global warming to our growing economic problems can be directly traced back to the lack of population control. They warn that if nothing is done about the exploding population, we will be facing a future full of poverty, war and suffering on a filthy, desolate planet. They complain that it “costs too much” to keep elderly patients that are terminally ill alive, and they eagerly promote abortion for babies that are “not wanted” because they would be “too much of a burden” on society. Anything that reduces the human population in any way is a good thing for those that believe in this philosophy. This twisted philosophy is being promoted in our movies, in our television shows, in our music, in countless books, on many of the most prominent websites in the world, and it is being taught at nearly all of the most important colleges and universities on the planet. The people promoting this philosophy have very, very deep pockets, and they are actually convinced that they are helping to “save the world” by trying to reduce the size of the human population. In fact, many of them are entirely convinced that we are in a “life or death” struggle for the fate of the planet, and that if humanity does not willingly choose to embrace population control soon, then a solution will have to be “forced” upon them.
Yes, I know that all of this may sound like something out of a science fiction novel. But there are a whole lot of people out there that are absolutely obsessed with this stuff, and many of them are in very prominent positions around the globe.
The following are 30 population control quotes which show that the elite truly believe that humans are a plague upon the earth and that a great culling is necessary…
1. UK Television Presenter Sir David Attenborough: “We are a plague on the Earth. It’s coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so. It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde. Either we limit our population growth or the natural world will do it for us, and the natural world is doing it for us right now”
2. Paul Ehrlich, a former science adviser to president George W. Bush and the author of “The Population Bomb”: “To our minds, the fundamental cure, reducing the scale of the human enterprise (including the size of the population) to keep its aggregate consumption within the carrying capacity of Earth is obvious but too much neglected or denied”
3. Paul Ehrlich again, this time on the size of families: “Nobody, in my view, has the right to have 12 children or even three unless the second pregnancy is twins”
4. Dave Foreman, the co-founder of Earth First: “We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox.”
5. CNN Founder Ted Turner: “A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
6. Japan’s Deputy Prime Minister Taro Aso about medical patients with serious illnesses: “You cannot sleep well when you think it’s all paid by the government. This won’t be solved unless you let them hurry up and die.”
7. David Rockefeller: “The negative impact of population growth on all of our planetary ecosystems is becoming appallingly evident.”
8. Environmental activist Roger Martin: “On a finite planet, the optimum population providing the best quality of life for all, is clearly much smaller than the maximum, permitting bare survival. The more we are, the less for each; fewer people mean better lives.”
9. HBO personality Bill Maher: “I’m pro-choice, I’m for assisted suicide, I’m for regular suicide, I’m for whatever gets the freeway moving – that’s what I’m for. It’s too crowded, the planet is too crowded and we need to promote death.”
10. MIT professor Penny Chisholm: “The real trick is, in terms of trying to level off at someplace lower than that 9 billion, is to get the birthrates in the developing countries to drop as fast as we can. And that will determine the level at which humans will level off on earth.”
11. Julia Whitty, a columnist for Mother Jones: “The only known solution to ecological overshoot is to decelerate our population growth faster than it’s decelerating now and eventually reverse it—at the same time we slow and eventually reverse the rate at which we consume the planet’s resources. Success in these twin endeavors will crack our most pressing global issues: climate change, food scarcity, water supplies, immigration, health care, biodiversity loss, even war. On one front, we’ve already made unprecedented strides, reducing global fertility from an average 4.92 children per woman in 1950 to 2.56 today—an accomplishment of trial and sometimes brutally coercive error, but also a result of one woman at a time making her individual choices. The speed of this childbearing revolution, swimming hard against biological programming, rates as perhaps our greatest collective feat to date.”
12. Colorado State University Professor Philip Cafaro in a paper entitled “Climate Ethics and Population Policy”: “Ending human population growth is almost certainly a necessary (but not sufficient) condition for preventing catastrophic global climate change. Indeed, significantly reducing current human numbers may be necessary in order to do so.“
13. Professor of Biology at the University of Texas at Austin Eric R. Pianka: “I do not bear any ill will toward people. However, I am convinced that the world, including all humanity, WOULD clearly be much better off without so many of us.”
14. Detroit News Columnist Nolan Finley: “Since the national attention is on birth control, here’s my idea: If we want to fight poverty, reduce violent crime and bring down our embarrassing drop-out rate, we should swap contraceptives for fluoride in Michigan’s drinking water.
We’ve got a baby problem in Michigan. Too many babies are born to immature parents who don’t have the skills to raise them, too many are delivered by poor women who can’t afford them, and too many are fathered by sorry layabouts who spread their seed like dandelions and then wander away from the consequences.”
15. John Guillebaud, professor of family planning at University College London: “The effect on the planet of having one child less is an order of magnitude greater than all these other things we might do, such as switching off lights. An extra child is the equivalent of a lot of flights across the planet.”
16. Democrat strategist Steven Rattner: “WE need death panels. Well, maybe not death panels, exactly, but unless we start allocating health care resources more prudently — rationing, by its proper name — the exploding cost of Medicare will swamp the federal budget.”
17. Matthew Yglesias, a business and economics correspondent for Slate, in an article entitled “The Case for Death Panels, in One Chart”: “But not only is this health care spending on the elderly the key issue in the federal budget, our disproportionate allocation of health care dollars to old people surely accounts for the remarkable lack of apparent cost effectiveness of the American health care system. When the patient is already over 80, the simple fact of the matter is that no amount of treatment is going to work miracles in terms of life expectancy or quality of life.”
18. Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger: “All of our problems are the result of overbreeding among the working class”
19. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg: “Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
20. Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger: “The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
21. Salon columnist Mary Elizabeth Williams in an article entitled “So What If Abortion Ends Life?”: “All life is not equal. That’s a difficult thing for liberals like me to talk about, lest we wind up looking like death-panel-loving, kill-your-grandma-and-your-precious-baby storm troopers. Yet a fetus can be a human life without having the same rights as the woman in whose body it resides.”
22. Alberto Giubilini of Monash University in Melbourne, Australia and Francesca Minerva of the University of Melbourne in a paper published in the Journal of Medical Ethics: “[W]hen circumstances occur after birth such that they would have justified abortion, what we call after-birth abortion should be permissible. … [W]e propose to call this practice ‘after-birth abortion’, rather than ‘infanticide,’ to emphasize that the moral status of the individual killed is comparable with that of a fetus … rather than to that of a child. Therefore, we claim that killing a newborn could be ethically permissible in all the circumstances where abortion would be. Such circumstances include cases where the newborn has the potential to have an (at least) acceptable life, but the well-being of the family is at risk.”
23. Nina Fedoroff, a key adviser to Hillary Clinton: “We need to continue to decrease the growth rate of the global population; the planet can’t support many more people.”
24. Barack Obama’s primary science adviser, John P. Holdren: “A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men.
The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.”
25. David Brower, the first Executive Director of the Sierra Club: “Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license … All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”
26. Thomas Ferguson, former official in the U.S. State Department Office of Population Affairs: “There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it…”
27. Mikhail Gorbachev: “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”
28. Jacques Costeau: “In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it.”
29. Finnish environmentalist Pentti Linkola: “If there were a button I could press, I would sacrifice myself without hesitating if it meant millions of people would die”
30. Prince Phillip, husband of Queen Elizabeth II and co-founder of the World Wildlife Fund: “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.”
There is so much more that could be said about all of this.
If you would like to learn more, the following are 10 of my previous articles about the population control agenda of the global elite…
#1 “The Population Control Agenda Of The Radical Humanists Who Would Love For You And I To Die”
#2 “They Love Death”
#3 “From 7 Billion People To 500 Million People – The Sick Population Control Agenda Of The Global Elite”
#4 “Al Gore, Agenda 21 And Population Control”
#5 “The Green Agenda Is About Getting Rid Of As Many Humans As Possible”
#8 “Hillary Clinton: Population Control Will Now Become The Centerpiece Of U.S. Foreign Policy”
#9 “New U.N. Report: We Must Reduce The Population To Fight Climate Change”
So what do you think about all of this? Do you agree or disagree with the sick population control agenda of the global elite? Please feel free to post a comment with your thoughts below…
Michael Snyder is the author of The Beginning Of The End and Get Prepared Now. You can get his new DVDs entitled “Economic Collapse, World War III & The Death Of America” and “The Regathering Of The Ten Lost Tribes Of Israel” from the Prophecy Club.
This Covid 19 Scamdemic is (among many other things) a ruse to murder the older populations first, especially the ones in nursing homes as they can accomplish this in a clandestine fashion. The “positive” test result for Covid 19 is 80% innacurrate…….WHAT SORT OF TEST IS THAT? Once they put you on a vent, you are as good as dead! This means that the “hospital” collects $39, 000 from Medicare!!! How’s that for an INCENTIVE!
https://henrymakow.com/2020/06/states-transferred-cases-to-nu.html
So just as I thought…….”The Talented Mr Caru”, co-poisoner of Srila Prabhupada has now passed to the abode of Lord Yamaraja. Some “guru!”. How dumb can you get? being put on a ventilator! The hospital will now collect $39,000 from this courtesy of Mr Gates (a Satanic mass-murdering transvestite!). This is what you get when you ‘make a deal’ with evil! It comes right back to bite you!
Ding Dong, The Demon’s Dead!
ISKCON with “Annamrita” and “Ashaya Patra” is just a Ford Foundation CIA ‘front’ to create “GMO food dependence” in the third world (particularly India). This ensures massive quantities of factory fodder for UK, European and US multinational Corporations, many of these companies and banking organisations are listed on the Akshaya Patra website (which has a plethora of the most demonic companies and banks worldwide).
Akshaya Patra (masquerading as a food program to help children) maintains it’s close association with Monsanto (through it’s subsidiary company MAHYCO).
This program is designed to ”train” young Indian Dalits as future ‘factory fodder’ so that European, UK, Australian, USA working people, small farmers and small businesses will be gradually EXTERMINATED!
The future ‘population statistics’ which have been predicted on the deagle.com website make this very clear! Why pay a factory worker $1000 a week in Australia/USA/UK when these multinationals can get the job done by an Indian (working 12 hours a day) for 10 times less? Atheist, Darwinist “Royal Society” Illuminati flunky and sell-out David Attenborough (brother of War propagandist and 3rd grade movie actor Richard Attenborough) cannot stop talking about “the threat of CO2 global warming” and extinction of certain species!, but the most threatened of all the species ARE THE HUMAN BEINGS LIVING IN THE “DEVELOPED” WORLD!
HOW LONG AFTER RUINING EVERYONES INCOME, BANKRUPTING SMALL BUSINESS, AND SMALL FARMERS WILL THE GOVERNMENT SEND OUT A CHEQUE? NOT VERY LONG AT ALL! THIS IS OF COURSE ALL BY DESIGN. THE EXTERMINATION OF 7 BILLION PEOPLE IS THE “SYNTHISIS!”
THE RELEASE OF LAB CREATED COVID 19 AND THE RESPONSE TO THIS IS THE “THESIS AND ANTI-THESIS” OF THEIR PLAN!…………THAT’S ALL!
https://henrymakow.com/2020/06/states-transferred-cases-to-nu.html
The ‘Mark of the Beast”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEMK0A-Vm5g
Sudarsana Prabhu,
Thanks for your posts.
How to avoid this madness if they make it mandatory?
It takes 30 seconds for two burly men to wrestle you down and inject you – what to speak if its the military doing it.
Any thoughts?
It sounds like Melbourne is really getting a taste of what’s to come. Hope you and the Australian devotees are doing all right.
Any clue to the time frame ?
The demon’s plan is at least half a century in the making and goes into great detail, covering every aspect with finely tuned precision (as with Hiranyakashipu, who did not want to contemplate the possibility of failure).
Decades and decades of meetings and strategies within the worlds secret societies, ”think tanks”, Freemason and Satanic ‘Superlodges’ and Round-Table, Bilderberg, Club of Rome, Trilateral Commission, CFR, and UN entities…..all in secret, away from the public eye, cameras and ‘external’ gaze.
They will have to accelerate their plan with lightning speed as more and more people are forced through their rapidly deteriorating circumstances, to think for themselves as the media whores, enablers and sell-out ”celebrities” (thespians, minstrels and clowns) are beginning to look like the characters in Hunger Games!
They know that if they initiate their next phase too quick, it may derail and they are looking at a lifetime behind bars….but they do not want to drag it out too long either as people are waking up to them, so at least within 6 months to a few years!
Lord Krishna also has His own Divine plan (and was aware of the Demon’s plan, even before they cooked it up!) so this is the situation. If Lord Krishna wants you to die , then nothing can save you and if He want’s you to live then nothing can kill you.
A world without Dharma is a demonic world of ‘perpetrators’ and their hordes of menial ‘enablers!’ From the moment one draws his/her first breath one should fight to destroy the demonic pestilence of ignorance and evil which destroys and degrades the soul. Until Dharma is established one should continue, until one’s dying breath to promote the transcendental message of Lord Krishna through the agency of our only Acharya and present Guru (by his own instruction) His Divine Grace A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada to vanquish ignorance which is the cause of all suffering for the living entity.
Not to do so means that one just becomes “another enabler” or even a “perpetrator!” themselves…….a slave of Kali and the material energy, ensuring a perpetual return to ignorance and suffering in the material world.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/my-hospital-experience-nurses-told-me-about-covid-19/5723002
Video: Nevada Nurse in NYC: COVID Is Not Killing People – They’re …
Is this what you refer to…
In this interview, retired Army combat veteran Erin Marie Olszewski, a nurse who for several months treated COVID-19 patients at the Elmhurst Hospital Center, a public hospital in Queens, New York — the epicenter of the pandemic in the U.S.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZgUFa48P5fwZ/
First Interview:
The (Undercover) Epicenter Nurse
https://youtu.be/UIDsKdeFOmQ
As I have already stated (in the first comment above) this is STATE SANCTIONED MURDER! …. Jiv Jago folks! So how many persons have these hospitals murdered to collect $40,000 from “Medicare” (or should that be “MurderCare”?) by putting them on a vent (even when they test “negative” twice!)?
Thanks for posting this Balaram Prabhu, though I have already seen this clip, others may have not and given that these ”hospital protocols” are being reproduced worldwide with this Corona-Scam it could be happening in many other countries as we speak.
This is one of the most disturbing scenarios I have heard over the last few months of this Corona-Scam, the very idea that without doctors present or family to advocate for you, they can just unnecessarily sedate you and put you on a ventilator so the hospital can collect $40,000 when they wheel your corpse into the hospital morgue! These racketeering, psychopathic murderers have to be stopped before they ramp-up their genocidal “population control protocols” into ‘overdrive’ (which is the vaccination extermination program) operation Warp Speed!
Over 70 year olds were listed above beds as DNR = Do Not Resuscitate!
This is something to consider if contemplating going to the hospital. By declaration of this false “pandemic” one now has a ‘bounty’ on ones head of $40,000 and the previous ‘rule book’ has been thrown out the window. It is now a huge incentive for hospitals to “follow the covid 19 protocols” if they wheel you into the hospital morgue (a consequence of being fully sedated and put on a ventilator, with a 50×50 {or less} chance of survival), they will collect $40,000 but if you survive and ‘walk out the front door THEY GET NOTHING!
2 important facts re ‘CASES’ & ‘MASKS’…
Dr. Lee Merritt, an orthopedic spinal surgeon with a medical practice in Logan, Iowa.
Purposeful Conflation of ‘Positive Tests’ With ‘Cases’
“Instead of comforting everyone and opening the world back up when the death toll started falling, the narrative suddenly shifted focus to “cases,” meaning people who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 — regardless of whether they had symptoms. More cognitive dissonance, as the primary measure of disease threat is its lethality.
As noted by Merritt, since ancient times, a “case,” medically speaking, has referred to a sick person. It never ever referred to someone who had no symptoms of illness (as 95% of ‘cases’ have no or few symptoms—most don’t even know they’re ‘infected’)!
Now all of a sudden, this well-established medical term, “case,” has been completely and arbitrarily redefined to mean someone who tested positive for the presence of viral RNA. “That is not epidemiology. That’s fraud,” Merritt says.” (My comment “Control by Fear”)
The Lies We’ve Been Told About Mask Wearing
Lie No. 2 is about the benefits of mask wearing. “It’s not scientifically sound, so why are we doing it?” Merritt asks. It’s JUST A SYMBOL OF SUBMISSION.The strongest argument for mask wearing is it sounds good. The strongest argument against mask wearing is it doesn’t work at all.”
Coronavirus is 0.125 microns. Medical N95 respirator masks, can only block particles larger than 0.3 microns. N95 masks are used in hospital settings to protect against tuberculosis, as the TB virus is 3 microns. You must, however, wear the correct size, it must be properly fitted to your face, and you must follow certain procedures when putting it on and removing it to prevent cross contamination.
In other words, surgical masks cannot and do not block the coronavirus (or any other virus for that matter), what to speak of hand made bandanas & cheap industrial masks. Surgical mask boxes are even printed with the warning that the mask “will not provide any protection against COVID-19 or other viruses,” and “does not reduce the risk of contracting any disease or infection.”
The suspicion that masks are little more than SUPPRESSION MUZZLES also gains strength by the fact that lawmakers are exempting themselves and certain categories of workers from their mask mandates. Of course no rules for the elite, all rules for others!
Hare Kṛṣṇa Balarama Prabhu.
Please a accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda!
May I offer my humble learnings?
Yesterday I had a big falling out with my brother, a covidiot and a staunch māyāvādi who refuses to recognise authority in any way.
The average droplet size ie sneeze, cough, moisture upon exhaling, inhaling etc is about half a millimetre maximum. Even a cotton bandana (from Hindi) will screen those particles out. Masks effectively stop the dispersal of such droplets.
True, the size of a coronavirus whatchamacallit may be only 9 or 10 micrometres but its main via media of dispersal and transmission is by water vapour, bodily fluids, etc., about a hundred times the size. This is what semi-permeable membranes are all about. Air in/out YES, larger molecules NO. Seldom does the covid molecule travel in open spaces by it self. It cannot move of its own accord and is reliant on other bodies for transportation. Water vapour!
Masks limit the outward dispersal of droplets. They may not be as effective in limiting intake if there are gaps.
Water droplets between one-tenth and one millimetre diameter exuded by breath, sneeze or cough by infected persons cannot exit/enter the respiratory system if wearing a correctly fitted mask.
To all: please don’t risk being foolhardy and disregarding the advice like a covidiot. It is my firm conviction that we should be careful and play it safe regardless of whatever conspiracy theories one ascribes to. Surely discretion is the better part of valour. Observe namaste mudra, keeping your distance; observe not invading someone else’s personal space, don’t pass saliva sharing food or kissing, this is what the time honoured Vedic standards of hygiene are all about. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with wearing a niqab, scarf, bandhnu (Hindi, bandana) or mask.
I live in Victoria where we have had to endure El Danielo’s stifling Second Wave Stage Four legislation. And quite frankly I too, am sick of it. But, because I have a number of Twelfth House planets, I have learnt that the worst thing I can do is to give up just before achieving the goal. It may be just around the corner. Hang in there.
trī-tāpa-yātana
The Three miseries (tri-tāpa-yātana or tāpa-traya)
1. ādhyātmika – Caused by mind and body;
2. ādhibhautika – Caused by others;
3. ādhidaivika – Caused by Providence, Mother Nature, The Elements, Natural Disasters, Unforeseen Unstoppable Catastrophes, whatever you wanna call them.
The first two we can sometimes avoid – eg got a headache, take a pill; got an annoying neighbour, shoot them (ha ha) ; the third we can do nothing about.
Covid is just one of the three miseries. All 3 apply to the recent bushfires. Some are lit – 1. By accident 2. By arsonists 3. By lightning.
Instead of trying to lay the blame somewhere outside of ourselves, people (us living spirit souls) should own it and just accept that life in the material world is full of trepidation and calamities and such things are unavoidable. Sure, covid could be a conspiracy, but so is everything. Where does it end? It depends to some degree on how we behave as a collective. We live in a society. It’s not Iskcon anymore, it’s gone, but we all still live in a society whether we acknowledge it or not. Be socially responsible, show respect for other jivas, follow the advice, protocols, guidlines, rules, laws, impositions, whatever you want to call them; it’s just easier to do it than be a stick-in-the-mud.
Hare Kṛṣṇa
हरे कृष्ण
Dear Bhakta Sam.
Out of a population of over 25 million, Australia has currently 29 individual cases in hospital, and that’s only because the left-wing Victorian Govt stuffed up the hotel quarantining for returning residents from overseas. The only few ‘deaths’ are occurring in nursing homes, where palliative care patients are suffering from a range of comorbidity. In other words, the inevitable brought forward a bit!
Also of interest in the time of this ‘pandemic’ is the fact that the number of deaths of nursing home residents has FALLEN BY ALMOST 1000 in the first seven months of 2020 compared with the previous year. Stuff you don’t hear or see in the socialist media coverage.
Suppression muzzles are just another part of the ongoing control by the socialist ideologists and deprivation of personal liberties. In the communist State of Victoria where you live, I noticed on the news last week there was a line of a dozen police like a ‘booze-bust’, however they were stopping every pushbike rider (people are only allowed out of the house to exercise for one (1) hour per day), to check their ID to see if they had strayed further than the Govt mandated five (5) kilometers from their home.
Here’s just a small sample of the Victorian Govt’s control, while the economy is being devastated>>>>
QUESTION: “Can I have visitors to my house? Can I see my partner?
Victorian Govt RULES: (as per official website)
You cannot have visitors or go to another person’s house unless it is for the purpose of giving or receiving care. You can leave your house to visit a person if you are in an “intimate personal relationship” with them.
If your partner lives outside Melbourne and/or 5km of your home you can still visit them. If you stay at your partner’s place after 8pm, you must stay there until the next morning. That is, you can’t go home from there between 8pm and 5am.
From midnight 13 September, people living alone will be allowed to have one person visit in a “social bubble”. You can only have ONE NOMINATED PERSON, but you can travel more than 5km to visit their house, and that can include a house where they live with others. You and your nominated person are allowed to visit either person’s house. However if the nominated person lives with other people, they cannot be home when the single person visits. Only one person per household can leave to go shopping per day.
Cleaners, tradespeople, gardeners, painters and renovators are not allowed to visit your house for work. Exceptions exist for emergency issues like a burst pipe, and for providing care for welfare and well-being like Meals on Wheels . But “it’s not the time to be painting your house or having unnecessary, non-urgent work happen,” Dictator Andrews said on Monday.”
So this means as you can NOMINATE only one (1) person to visit you, if you have say more than one child living apart from you, you have to CHOOSE between them to see who gets ‘lucky’.
Suppression muzzles were also commonly used in the days of the ‘slave trade’ (thankfully well in the past?) and can be currently seen on terrorist inmates at Guantanamo Bay.
Anyway despite all that, I have no objection to you or anyone exercising your individual rights to wear whatever mask you like, however don’t mandate to me that as a healthy person I have to wear a face covering, that will cause me to re-inhale my outgoing breath containing a good deal of CO2. I am responsible for my own health!
You state.. “Be socially responsible, show respect for other jivas, follow the advice, protocols, guidlines, rules, laws, impositions, whatever you want to call them; it’s just easier to do it than be a stick-in-the-mud.”
Regret, but sounds more like ‘Stockholm Syndrome’ from which it seems most of the state of Victoria is suffering, or maybe like ‘taking a knee’ (submission) to the Marxist BLM thugs.
Chant Hare Krsna and our lives will be sublime whatever the material condition. Good to hear from you.
हरे कृष्ण
Ys,
Balaram das.
How Medical Technocracy Made the Plandemic Possible
“By Dr.Lee Merrit”
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/09/05/medical-technocracy.aspx
The medical definition of a case is a countable instance of a disease.
Balaram das: The suspicion that masks are little more than SUPPRESSION MUZZLES also gains strength by the fact that lawmakers are exempting themselves and certain categories of workers from their mask mandates. Of course no rules for the elite, all rules for others!
Mahesh: the actual problem is deaths from Corona virus has been exaggerated. Hence, people generally have no faith in the politicians. In UK the population is 67 million and every year 150,000 die from all sorts of causes liver disease, cancer, heart attacks, old age etc. However, when Corona came about, why were there no deaths by these?????? Also in the past, there was SARS which was just as serious, so— where were the dog muzzles worn by the public then? There was none:
https://www.cdc.gov/sars/index.html
This is about control of the public, by dictators for their personal sense gratification: Srimad Bhagavatam prediction:
” So, the men who acquire a government post by vote are mostly lubdhai rājanyaiḥ, greedy government men. Nirghṛṇair dasyu: Their business is plundering the public. And we actually see that every year the government men are exacting heavy taxes, and whatever money is received they divide among themselves, while the citizens’ condition remains the same.”
The Bhāgavatam describes these leaders in the next verse:
prajā hi lubdhai rājanyair
nirghṛṇair dasyu-dharmabhiḥ
ācchinna-dāra-draviṇā
yāsyanti giri-kānanam
“The citizens will be so oppressed by merciless rogues in the guise of rulers that they will give up their spouses and property and flee to the hills and forests.” [Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 12.2.8] So, the men who acquire a government post by vote are mostly lubdhai rājanyaiḥ, greedy government men. Nirghṛṇair dasyu: Their business is plundering the public. And we actually see that every year the government men are exacting heavy taxes, and whatever money is received they divide among themselves, while the citizens’ condition remains the same. Every government is doing that. Gradually, all people will feel so much harassed that ācchinna-dāra-draviṇāḥ: They will want to give up their family life (their wife and their money) and go to the forest. This we have also seen.
So, kaler doṣa-nidhe rājan: The faults of this age are just like an ocean. If you were put into the Pacific Ocean, you would not know how to save your life. Even if you were a very expert swimmer, it would not be possible for you to cross the Pacific Ocean. Similarly, the Kali-yuga is described in the Bhāgavatam as an ocean of faults. It is infected with so many anomalies that there seems to be no way out. But there is one medicine: kīrtanād eva kṛṣṇasya mukta-saṅgaḥ paraṁ vrajet. The Bhāgavatam explains that if you chant the name of Kṛṣṇa—the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra—you will be relieved from the infection of this Kali-yuga.
Thank you very much.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/jsd/6/ancient_prophecies_fulfilled
Mahesh: the actual problem is deaths from Corona virus has been exaggerated.
Of course it’s control by FEAR. Over 95% of so-called virus ‘deaths’ have comorbidity (multiple causes of death). It’s just that the flu virus sped up the mṛtyu—death; jarā—old age; vyādhi—disease. There’s virtually no more total deaths worldwide this year than others.
However this is more than just control by some greedy dictators. It is fully orchestrated by the Left neo-Marxist UN in their ‘slow march’ through the Institutions. Suppression muzzle the population, take away their liberties & drip-feed them back a few little treats as they start to feel OK with their Captors. Stockholm Syndrome on an International scale.
Balaram Prabhu : Of course it’s control by FEAR. Over 95% of so-called virus ‘deaths’ have comorbidity (multiple causes of death). It’s just that the flu virus sped up the mṛtyu—death; jarā—old age; vyādhi—disease. There’s virtually no more total deaths worldwide this year than others.
Mahesh: Italy, France put up VERY high figures from death by COVID. Why???? Here is common-sense: the Countries are part of EU, so if the figures are high they get the EU grant otherwise they do not get the grant:
“The European Commission, the executive arm of the EU, has been tasked with tapping financial markets to raise an unprecedented 750 billion euros ($857 billion). The funds will be distributed among the countries and sectors most impacted by the coronavirus pandemic, and will take the form of grants and loans. ”
Note: now—— here—– comes the BAD news—– for the public:
Taxation
“European governments will have to find new financial resources to repay some of the additional debt, and this includes new taxes.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/21/eu-leaders-reach-a-breakthrough-on-the-regions-recovery-fund.html
So there you have it, NEW TAXES they ARE going to find NEW ways to TAX and EXPLOIT the public eg in UK they have now made many many increasing bus lanes with cameras clicking so cars are fined if they go on those, plus—- there are other areas local councils now have created parking restrictions and they fine the cars parked in those without permit—– which is also problem to get particularly, for visitors—- if you have a visitor to your home—he can not park outside. They have panda cars moving around which carry cameras and note registration plates.
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8572039/The-UK-cities-making-millions-bus-lane-fines.html
ALL the goverments will now recite this COVID mantra to exploit the citizens “It is COVID we have to raise taxes otherwise you all would be dead etc etc etc” CONTROL/EXPLOIT thru FEAR.
Srila Prabhupada states clearly, …”greedy government men. Nirghṛṇair dasyu: Their business is plundering the public. And we actually see that every year the government men are exacting heavy taxes, and whatever money is received they divide among themselves, while the citizens’ condition remains the same. ”
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/jsd/6/ancient_prophecies_fulfilled
Balaram das: Coronavirus is 0.125 microns. Medical N95 respirator masks, can only block particles larger than 0.3 microns. N95 masks are used in hospital settings to protect against tuberculosis, as the TB virus is 3 microns. You must, however, wear the correct size, it must be properly fitted to your face, and you must follow certain procedures when putting it on and removing it to prevent cross contamination.
In other words, surgical masks cannot and do not block the coronavirus (or any other virus for that matter), what to speak of hand made bandanas & cheap industrial masks.
Mahesh: I was talking with someone and he came up with something interesting. He said to me that the mask wearing means you breath in your OWN breath again—– which is—- carbon dioxide. So—- this— will make you—— even more ill.
Yes Mahesh das, I’ve been saying that for the past 9 months. We breath out CO2, which vegetation and trees inhale. Plant life oxygenates the atmosphere which we inhale. Cycle of material life.
Therefore of course if you restrict your outward breath with a muzzle, you’re sucking a hell of a lot of expelled CO2 back in.
BTW if the leftwing-greens-NWO extinction-rebellion ferals want ZERO CO2 emissions, they will also have to stop breathing (at least outwards) haha!
Śrīla Prabhupāda: “There is no question of overpopulation”.
Hare Krsna Prabhupadanugas !
Yes Balarama Prabhu, breathing in too much CO2 is unnatural and is a medically diagnosable condition, and if i may, i would like to expand more about CO2 inhalation as a professional medical practitioner. In school we had to learn about re-breather masks and non re-breather masks in regards to hyperventilation (too much O2 not enough CO2) and hypo ventilation (too much CO2 and not enough O2). In a hyperventilation case, excessive inhalation/exhalation, we use a re-breather mask (funny enough we were taught to use a regular old paper lunch sack a.k.a. barf bag) which increases the C02 in the bloodstream due to inhaling the expelled CO2, as too much O2 and a lack CO2 can cause alkalosis, or too high a blood ph.
Oppositely, if one is hypo-ventilating, insufficient inhalation/exhalation, then we use a non re-breather mask that has a reservoir filled with O2 to increase blood saturation levels, as lack of O2, or too much CO2 causes blood acidosis, or blood ph being to low. Some of the signs and symptoms of acidosis caused by an O2, CO2 imbalance are as follows. Fatigue or drowsiness, becoming tired easily, confusion, shortness of breath, sleepiness, and headache.
Ultimately if unchecked, respiratory acidosis leads to the following, kidney stones, chronic kidney problems, kidney failure, bone disease and delayed growth. Certainly neither blood alkalosis or blood acidosis are trife cases to play with. But now in the present day we have the sheeple masses, along with some children in the slaughterhouses ie school system, of which neither group is hyperventilating, being nonetheless “forced” or “convinced” to wear these re-breather type masks for numerous hours a day. Surely we don’t need to be tri-kala-jnana to see where this is going. “If there not sick, make em sick.”
Ultimately when it comes to all issues in this material world have to pick and then serve who we have delegated as our master, as it is impossible to serve two. A big thank you to all who have chosen Srila Prabhupada and Lord Sri Krsna as your Ultimate Authority. The Truth All-ways Triumphs !!!
Jaya Prabhupada !!!
jason
Hare Krsna Jason prabhu,
Many thanks for your confirmation and further explanation from a professional viewpoint.
This ‘human’ form of life is considered to be the most valuable form in the Universe, as it affords us the best chance of going Back to Godhead.
Even the Demigods desire to take birth here to perform Bhakti yoga, so considering the body as a temple for the soul, it should be kept in the best & cleanest state possible, which can only assist in the rendering of our service to Srila Prabhupada & Krsna. Cleanliness is next to Godliness (as they say).
Srila Prabhupada has commented that if you clean the temple, you clean your heart; if you polish the Deity’s paraphernalia, you polish your heart. And the activity of cleansing the Gundica temple by Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, is taken as not only a process for cleaning a temple complex, but also as a metaphor for how we should go about cleaning our own hearts. The temple was cleansed to make it a fit place for the Lord to reside. Similarly, each of us has to clean his or her heart to make it a fit place for the Lord.
Interesting that ‘Cleanliness’, being the second ‘leg’ of Dharma, practically disappeared at the end of Treta Yuga, so what to speak of the state of this dirty old Kali Yuga.
paraṁ vijayate śrī-kṛṣṇa-saṅkīrtanam
हरे कृष्ण
Yfs, Balaram das.
CAUSE AND EFFECT OF THE COVID RIDDLE SOLVED ??
Here is some interesting reading in an old yoga-book for download:
http://www.harekrsna.de/Yogic-Way.pdf
Yogic Way to Cure Disease
In order to come to the right conclusion it is necessary to connect the DOTS one after another, starting with “ONE”, by reading the relevant chapters in the Yoga Book, see the Contents on page 678:
ONE – Chapter 1 “Tridosh,Bacteria and Germs”
TWO – Chapter 2 “Influenza ,Pleurisy ,Pneumonia ,Tuberculosis”
THREE – Chapter 5 “Evils of drugging ,Our opinion , The limited scope of medicine ,Doctors and Doctoring”
In addition to the above information found in the Yoga-Book, the following was being recently published, on October 13, 2020
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/503380-tuberculosis-covid19-vaccine-restrictions/
Conclusion : Now they are linking the Covid-Disease to Tuberculosis
COVID = TUBERCULOSIS
In the recent 6 month people have weakened their immune-system by masking, inhaling their expelled bad air. Now a little cold which everybody gets once a year, will cause lots of casualties. Every day the lungs take in 9000 litres of air to supply the body with oxygen, if you wear a mask for 8 hours a day makes 375 litres per hour x 8 = 3000 litres less air, 30% less. What an immense loss on vitality, so much irreversible damage done.
Yogic Way to Cure Disease describes the importance of fresh air and how to cure TB = Covid
GOOD LUCK !
SB 10.4.38 – „As a disease, if initially neglected, becomes acute and impossible to cure, or as the senses, if not controlled at first, are impossible to control later, an enemy, if neglected in the beginning, later becomes insurmountable.”
According to moral instructions, one should not neglect to extinguish fire completely, treat diseases completely, and clear debts completely. Otherwise they will increase and later be difficult to stop.
Hare Krishna.”There is no question of overpopulation. This is a false theory. If God can create, He can maintain also. And actually, this is the fact. I am travelling all over the world. There are so much vacant places upon the surface of the globe that, that ten times more than the present population can be easily maintained.”
Srila Prabhupada’s quote here above includes His words; …….”surface of the GLOBE.”
Here He is referring to the planet we live on, the Earth Planet.
The word GLOBE ( a NOUN) is defined as SPHERICAL.
Surprised no-one picked up on that
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Regardless of our beliefs, only a miscreant or a social misfit would walk around in public without a mask and put fear into other people’s hearts knowing fully well what is in their mindset.. You may not agree but that’s not the point. The kind thing to do, whatever you believe, is to put people at ease and not agitate them. It’s a simple gesture, it doesn’t take a lot of effort, unless you’re determined to be difficult.
Namaste,. Please try to make others comfortable instead of causing unnecessary upset. It’s not a big ask. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Hare Krsna Bhakta Sam,
With all due respect sir, making others “comfortable”, from my limited studying, has not been found to be be the definition of Krsna Consciousness nor any of it’s 26 characteristics. So, i am therefore curious, how exactly does what you propose actually make anyone comfortable in any sense of the term ? Is this proposition to make others comfortable through convenient lies vs making them uncomfortable through unpalatable truths ? Could it be that this ideology of “make others comfortable” is very similar to what Arjuna was trying to do before the battle started at Kuruksetra ? Wasn’t he attempting to make himself and his family members “comfortable” instead of causing “unnecessary upset” by doing his duty ? On this suggestion you have delivered of, “please try to make others comfortable instead of causing unnecessary upset,” could you elaborate because i can’t find this instruction in Sastra.
That notwithstanding, the intentional and premeditated self harming of this human body, due to erroneous and malicious suggestions made by some mlecchas and yavanas, against profound medical evidence, who in addition have no desires for people to be Krsna Conscious, has escaped my studies in the practice of Krsna Consciousness also. If i am mistaken here as well, please correct me, because it actually appears to be a very “big ask” to instruct or persuade someone to harm their body and Sri Krsna as the Supersoul residing within.
In addressing the word “miscreants” as you call them, i have however, heard Sri Krsna explain what the characteristics of a miscreant, or duskrtina actually are. That sloka is on page 382 of Bhagavad-gita As It Is, and then Srila Prabhupada expands further in His Purport to define 4 types of miscreant personalities that Krsna has named, as you probably well know.
Ultimately, personally, i will prefer to be, as you say, a “social misfit,” as i have no desire to fit in with the puppet masses just to stroke my false ego or theirs, or prefer to be as you call a “miscreant” rather than taking shelter of the ignorant and demonic so-called leaders and their so-called societal standards and be a conformable “comfortable” pawn to their atheistic planmaking. Why ? Because those personalities holding power wielding positions in evil empires are in no way shape or form my authority, my guide, and for sure, not my eternal well wisher.
we would be better off to make our uneducated siblings “comfortable” by doing “the kind thing”, “to put people at ease and not agitate them” which has nothing to do with a materialistic monopolization of perception, but can subsequently be done by wearing our tilak, greeting all we see with Hare Krsna, distributing some Krsna Prasadam and by continuing to follow the footprints of Srila Prabhupada and Mahajanas; trying to expand Krsna Consciousness to the best of our Krsna given ability . Surely “it’s a simple gesture, it doesn’t take a lot of effort, unless you’re determined to be difficult.” Certainly when God people do nothing, evil flourishes.
Jaya Prabhupada !!!
jason
Srila Prabhupada did not give a f*** (fig) about vox poulii. ‘Hidden in plain site’ is a common theme and important to the political elites in their modus operandi to gain ‘synthesis’ (solution), from their endless psyop programming aimed at the vast populace (popular voice ie: vox populii) by incorporating the ‘mystical’ process.
In spite of your obvious “training” in the mundane sphere you are (like the vast majority) completely ‘mind controlled’ (brainwashed). The Victorian ‘Andrews’ Government (as this is where I believe you reside) are telling you that they are brainwashing you, though you are completely unaware of this. This is ‘hidden from you but is right in front of your eyes!’ Andrews is always speaking in front of a ‘purple’ background. Purple is the colour the illuminati associates with ‘mind control’ also incorporated in the backdrop is the ‘Victoria logo’ which is a ‘reverse’ pyramid which represents the # 33 (and the coccyx bone which is the 33’d vertebrae at the base of the spine). The Illuminati always use symbolism, numbers (13, 66, 33 etc) in their Psychological Operations (PSYOP’s) to gain ‘synthesis’ in their quest for personal power and the number 33 was used extensively (especially at the beginning of this Psychological Operation)….this is how the ‘mystic process’ works.
‘Purple Rain’ is the ‘signature’ song of Prince (who was Illuminati ‘mind controlled’, manipulated and later murdered!). Prince’s house was copied from Nazi, Zionist Himmler’s castle (designed on Babylonian, Egyptian and Judaic Mysticism) which was visited frequently by the Illuminati Mystic Vril and Thule Societies. Rain refers to the monetary rewards (money, fame, prestige etc) which come as a result of ‘taking a knee’ (subservience and homage) to the Illuminati and becoming their slave. They are using this in the Antifa (BLM) campaign another Soros inspired PSYOP to destroy the US economy.
The colour purple, rainbows, the butterfly, the ‘mask’ (a symbol of total subservience) the number ’33’ are all used in this Illuminati Psychological Operation, which for most people (including yourself!) is a ‘mere coincidence’ as you (like so many who ascribe to ‘vox populii’) are COINCIDENCE THEORISTS!
There is only one conspiracy! A conspiracy is only possible in a world inhabited by fools who cannot see the wood for the trees. (hidden in plain site). Andrews like New Zealand’s PM Ardern is very cosy with tranny Satanist Bill Gates and the Zionists. He remarked that Zionist occupied Palestine, ‘Israel’ is a place he feels “very much at home!” Transvestite Ardern is a big fan of Gates. She was an adviser to mass murderer and pathological liar Tony Blair, and like him is a Freemason Satanist and member of The Fabian Society (who’s logo is “a wolf in sheep’s clothing”) again ‘hidden in plain site!’ Blair is also a member of the 1591 Studholme Illuminati Lodge, Edmond Burke Lodge, and is a 33 degree Knight of Malta, a QC (created by the Knights Templar) and member of ‘The Committee of 300’ (the most powerful Illuminati group worldwide).
Of course this is all a “coincidence” to you because all of your information comes straight from the mass media and pathological liars like Andrews, who are just ‘vassals’ and ‘errand boys’ for the Zionist elites with their pathetic catch phrases and jingoistic nonsense like ”keeping us safe”, ”distancing keeps us together”, ”doing the right thing”, “we’re all in this together”, and one of the best ones “let’s not undo all the good we’ve done!” all a fake advertising campaign and you are “buying it” (and relaying it to us! also)…….wake up to yourself!
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Hare Krsna Sam,
By not supporting healthy people mandated to wear masks in public, as you say, I am definitely a ‘miscreant or a social misfit’ putting ‘fear into other people’s hearts knowing fully well what is in their mindset’.
Of course being so ‘unkind’, I definitely make people feel ill at ‘ease’ and ‘agitate’ them. As you can well see, I obviously put a lot of effort into my determination ‘to be difficult’ while making others ‘uncomfortable by causing unnecessary upset’.
Hmm.. you must be looking forward to 1984, or maybe a residence in Nth Korea perhaps if you ever get out of the Marxist Communist State of Victoria.
Best wishes.
The BG 1.41 purport, gives the perfect answer to Sam, to the accusations of having to “be nice to people”.
devarṣi-bhūtāpta-nṛnāṁ pitṝṇāṁ
na kiṅkaro nāyamṛṇī ca rājan
sarvātmanā yaḥ śaraṇaṁ śaraṇyaṁ
gato mukundaṁ parihṛtya kartam
“Anyone who has taken shelter of the lotus feet of Mukunda, the giver of liberation, giving up all kinds of obligation, and has taken to the path in all seriousness, owes neither duties nor obligations to the demigods, sages, general living entities, family members, humankind or forefathers.” (Bhāg. 11.5.41) Such obligations are automatically fulfilled by performance of devotional service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. (https://prabhupadabooks.com/bg/1/41)
SB 7.10.23, Purport:
When one becomes a devotee, he no longer has any duty to the Vedic regulative principles. One has many duties to perform, but if one becomes fully devoted to the Lord, he no longer has any such obligations. As stated in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (11.5.41):
devarṣi-bhūtāpta-nṛṇāṁ pitṟṇāṁ
na kiṅkaro nāyam ṛṇī ca rājan
sarvātmanā yaḥ śaraṇaṁ śaraṇyaṁ
gato mukundaṁ parihṛtya kartam
One who has fully surrendered to the lotus feet of the Lord is no longer a debtor to his forefathers, the great sages, human society, the common man or any living entity.
Hare Krsna dear Mataji
Nice quotes, and also Lord Krsna chastises Arjuna….
Bhagavad Gita As It Is.. Ch2 – Verse 11
“sri-bhagavan uvaca
asocyan anvasocas tvam
prajna-vadams ca bhasase
gatasun agatasums ca
nanusocanti panditah
TRANSLATION
The Blessed Lord said: While speaking learned words, you are mourning for what is not worthy of grief. Those who are wise lament neither for the living nor the dead.
PURPORT
The Lord at once took the position of the teacher and chastised the student, calling him, indirectly, a fool. The Lord said, you are talking like a learned man, but you do not know that one who is learned—one who knows what is body and what is soul—does not lament for any stage of the body, neither in the living nor in the dead condition…..”
paraṁ vijayate śrī-kṛṣṇa-saṅkīrtanam
हरे कृष्ण
Sam writes: “To all: please don’t risk being foolhardy and disregarding the advice like a covidiot. It is my firm conviction that we should be careful and play it safe regardless of whatever conspiracy theories one ascribes to.”
Balaram quotes Sam: “By not supporting healthy people mandated to wear masks in public, as you say, I am definitely a ‘miscreant or a social misfit’ putting ‘fear into other people’s hearts knowing fully well what is in their mindset’.
Hare Krishna Sam
Before you start criticising the devotees to be covidiots, ‘miscreants or social misfits’ (for not wearing a mask) you better start using your brain before you write such offensive nonsense. It seems the only Idiot is you, being brainwashed by all those fake media news. The only one putting fear into other people’s hearts is modern media, with all its lies and fake news, trying to control people thru hysteria and fear.
You are an ignorant fool. You want to be nice to the karmis but NOT nice to the devotees, who do not share your limited understanding of the situation. You better get a second opinion from here:
Why you shouldn’t wear a face mask if you’re healthy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqRL1GXu5DE
Healthy People Should Not Wear Face Masks
https://www.meehanmd.com/blog/2020-06-12-healthy-people-should-not-wear-face-masks/
The Pandemic of Bad Science and Public Health Misinformation on Community Wearing of Masks. During the COVID-19 pandemic, public health experts began telling us to follow a number of disease mitigation strategies that sounded reasonably scientific, but actually had little or no support in the scientific literature. Community wearing of masks was one of the more dangerous recommendations from our confused public health experts.
https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=51674#more-51674
Pamho agtacbsp we don’t forget to thanks krsna for any inconvenience I mean it could be worse Kali Yuga Nama Rupa krsna avatar agtacbsp
Without becoming jñānī, nobody can become bhakta
So without becoming fully in knowledge, nobody can become devotee.
Paris aug 5 1976 conversations….
Prabhupāda: Without becoming jñānī, nobody can become bhakta. Without knowledge, if one has become bhakta, he’s sentimentalist. It is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, find out this verse. Samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām [Bg. 18.54].
brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā na śocati na kāṅkṣati samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām [Bg. 18.54]
(French translation read) So without becoming fully in knowledge, nobody can become devotee.
Bhūgarbha: He asks, What about the opposite, people becoming devotees without knowing anything? He asking…
Prabhupāda: No, devotee cannot be without knowing anything. A devotee means, a devotee means he knows everything. Kasmin tu bhagavo vijñāte sarvam idaṁ vijñātaṁ bhavati. This is Vedic injunction. One who knows the Absolute, he knows everything.
Yogeśvara: Śrīla Prabhupāda? That verse, does that mean that one who is neophyte…
Prabhupāda: Neophyte is neophyte. Why do you bring him to become a devotee? A devotee is different. A “one plus one equal to two,” he’s not mathematician. He’s learning. There is hope one day he’ll be a big mathematician. There are three stages, kaniṣṭha-adhikārī, madhyama-adhikārī, uttama-adhikārī. So when you speak of devotee, that is this uttama-adhikārī. So he knows everything. Rather, the so-called jñānī, he does not know. Because he does not know Kṛṣṇa. The so-called jñānī, he does not know what is Personality of Godhead. He’s impersonalist. Therefore he is still unaware of the Absolute Truth. Therefore he’s not jñānī. His jñāna, his knowledge, is lacking. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ [Bg. 7.19]
If one jñānī is impersonalist, he’s not jñānī. He is still unaware of the Absolute Truth. He does not know. Therefore it will take many, many births to come to the understanding of the Personality of Godhead. Therefore he’s not jñānī, he’s claiming to be jñānī. Such jñānī will take many hundreds of births to come to the position of real jñānī. Find out this bahūnāṁ janmanām ante [Bg. 7.19]. So-called jñānī, after many, many births, when he understands Kṛṣṇa and surrenders to Him, then he’s jñānī. Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. That kind of jñānī is very, very rare. The impersonalist means ajñānī. Yes. Because he does not know Kṛṣṇa, the person.
There is another verse in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam: āruhya kṛcchreṇa paraṁ padaṁ tataḥ patanty adhaḥ [SB 10.2.32]. Āruhya kṛcchreṇa, by the jñāna process, is undergoing austerities and penances, one comes to the platform of paraṁ padam, monism, or platform of oneness. But because he has no shelter, he patanty adhaḥ, again comes to the material. Just like so many sannyāsīs in India, they are very learned, they have come to the platform of Brahman realization, but after some time they come to the material field for political work, for social work. They give up this world, brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā. If jagat is mithyā, is false, why does he come for social work?
Just like these people going to the moon planet, but because they do not get any shelter, they take some sand and come back again. So what is the use of going there and spending so much money and come back with little sand, and satisfied, “Now we have studied”? Because they have no shelter. So the jñānīs, they have no shelter. Yes. They may go very high in the sky, but because they have no shelter they come back again. Punar muṣaka bhava, again become a mouse. So that is not jñānī, that is ajñānī. Jñānī is described here, mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām [Bg. 18.54]. Brahma-bhūta [SB 4.30.20] is jñānī, ahaṁ brahmāsmi. Brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā, “I have nothing to do with material world.” Brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā na śocati na kāṅkṣati [Bg. 18.54], there is no lamentation, there is no hankering. When he has attained that stage, brahma-bhūta stage, reality, then he is entrance in the bhakti. Otherwise a neophyte.
Some Conclusions–Why are there so many different opinions among devotees regarding guru tattva? Is everybody right or are they all wrong and only one type is correct? On principle there cannot be two opinions regarding guru tattva. Just like there cannot be two opinions regarding Krsna Tattva. Why is it that Srila Prabhupada tells us he gave us everything, especially in his books, yet devotees have as many opinions as there are devotees? Are they all right or all of them wrong? The first clue to answering these questions is the above conversation about who is a jnani and who is a neophyte.
Prabhupada tells us right at the beginning that unless one becomes a real jnani he cannot become a bhakta. And at the end of this conversation he shows us that unless we come to the brahman level of consciousness, then we are still neophytes.
What is that (Brahman) Brahma bhuta platform? That is explained in Bhagavad gita- One who is on the spiritual level is always joyful, he never laments when things dont go his way, he never hankers because he cannot get what he wants, he treats all living beings equally and he is a friend to all. Then spiritual life begins, otherwise we are neophytes, not real Vaisnavas or devotees quite yet.
RE: “A devotee means, a devotee means he knows everything.” Srila Prabhupada as quoted.
Hiranyakasipu asked his son, Mahajan Sri Prahlada Maharaj ..
SB.. 7.5. Text 22
prahrādānūcyatāṁ tāta
svadhītaṁ kiñcid uttamam
My dear Prahlāda, my dear son, now please repeat to me whatever you think is the best of that knowledge.
Sri Prahlada then answered as to who is the ‘most learned person who has acquired complete knowledge’
SB.. 7.5 TEXTS 23–24
śrī-prahrāda uvāca
śravaṇaṁ kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ smaraṇaṁ pāda-sevanam
arcanaṁ vandanaṁ dāsyaṁ sakhyam ātma-nivedanam
iti puṁsārpitā viṣṇau bhaktiś cen nava-lakṣaṇā
kriyeta bhagavaty addhā tan manye ’dhītam uttamam
TRANSLATION
Prahlāda Mahārāja said: Hearing and chanting about the transcendental holy name, form, qualities, paraphernalia and pastimes of Lord Viṣṇu, remembering them, serving the lotus feet of the Lord, offering the Lord respectful worship with sixteen types of paraphernalia, offering prayers to the Lord, becoming His servant, considering the Lord one’s best friend, and surrendering everything unto Him (in other words, serving Him with the body, mind and words)—these nine processes are accepted as pure devotional service. One who has dedicated his life to the service of Kṛṣṇa through these nine methods should be understood to be the most learned person, for he has acquired complete knowledge.
Point taken
Pamho agtacbsp that’s a good point Srila prabhupada is a real devotee we are trying to follow HIM to get rid of all anartha prajalpa etc.. but as we can see big donkey proclaimed to be guru by taking with them all the stupid blind small donkey this dirty business must be finished soon by the mercy of Sri Sri guru and gauranga agtacbsp ys haribol
Therefore there is no question of overpopulation.
the propaganda of overpopulation is only a myth.
SB 9.20.21 PURPORT: The living entities in different forms are sons of the Lord, and therefore the father, the Supreme Lord, supplies them food according to their different bodies. The small ant is supplied a grain of sugar, and the elephant is supplied tons of food, but everyone is able to eat. Therefore there is no question of overpopulation.
Because the father, Kṛṣṇa, is fully opulent, there is no scarcity of food, and because there is no scarcity, the propaganda of overpopulation is only a myth.
Actually one suffers for want of food when material nature, under the order of the father, refuses to supply him food. It is the living entity’s position that determines whether food will be supplied or not. When a diseased person is forbidden to eat, this does not mean that there is a scarcity of food; rather, the diseased person requires the treatment of not being supplied with food. In Bhagavad-gītā (7.10) the Lord also says, bījaṁ māṁ sama-bhūtānām: “I am the seed of all living entities.” A particular type of seed is sown within the earth, and then a particular type of tree or plant comes out. The mother resembles the earth, and when a particular type of seed is sown by the father, a particular type of body takes birth.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/9/20/21
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Some very important information on this site, and much factual knowledge of how the Covid19 “plandemiic” has been engineered by the demonic elites (Committee of 300 and their various ‘agencies’, partnerships and collaborators) as a bio-weapon, in a series of future pandemics. This Covid 19 is a ‘trial run’ referred to by them as ‘pandemic one’ with some much more dangerous engineered viruses (in their own words) planned within the next half a decade.
This is just another ‘false flag’ event (blame mother nature!) to galvanise the dumb populace to the will of the demons. Another ‘boogie man’ invisible enemy like “weapons of mass destruction” (a phantom that doesn’t exist!). They are also using Geo- Engineering (Chemtrails {aluminium oxide etc}, HAARP, and DEW {Direct Energy Weapons}) to create fire-storms that burn whole towns, national parks, and farmlands, so they can acquire the land by force and later ‘re-zone’ it making rebuilding, by the original owners illegal.
This is why they have created the ‘CO2 Global Warming Myth’ so they can just ‘fire bomb’ your house with Direct Energy Weapons (lasers, microwaves etc) just as they did with Dresden (WW2) by using white phosphorous but they can just blame CO2 and ‘mother nature’, yes another ‘false flag’ boogie man ‘apparition’. This is ‘Agenda 21’ in action folks, so the ruling elites can steal the best land and push all the dumb populace into high-rise apartments (the size of a prison cell!) in the cities where they put you into a lifetime of debt and can control your every move through cameras, tracking implants and electronic currency.
Now the everyday citizen is “the terrorist” (the boogy-man) threatening the whole community (by not wearing a mask!), by not “social distancing” and by refusing to be tagged, tracked and vaccinated with the Mark of the Beast (Lucifer-aze and hydro-gel). And let’s not forget the “hand sanitiser” which contains carcinogens, and hormone inhibiters (making you sterile) over 100 brands have been removed and banned from the market, over the last few months.
The demons want your full cooperation so they can exterminate you (and steal your land, wealth and children), so you can be passive and compliant as you wait your ‘turn’ on the killing floor while you accept your ‘lethal injection’ without a fuss (or any indemnity, blame, or guilt for them!).
This engineered Covid 19 “pandemic” is just the beginning of a World Mass Extermination program. FISKCON are just lapdogs and sycophants of the Satanic Freemason inspired ruling elites! and together with other various “charities” they will serve their Satanic masters by helping them to “vaccinate” and/or facilitate their program of mass murder. This is evident in all of their bullshit propaganda and fealty and submission to the Royal Family and the Queen who is the female head of the 33 degree Scottish Rite Illuminati.
This vid is a must see! Best one I have seen so far…….
Search : plandemicseries.com
Thanks Sudarsana prabhu, please share other relevant links. I appreciate your research and knowledge.
Your friend and servant
Sundar
Dear Sundar Prabhu most (if not all) of these sites will be taken down in the near future as public unrest and martial law is declared. Englands North will be under “lockdown” (house arrest) very soon as the army personel are young, stupid thugs and the most mind controlled which the media will portray as ‘front-line heroes!’ cracking skulls and arresting people. The “Victorian controversity” and bogus investigation into ‘private security contractors’ and the ‘hotel lockdowns’ is all a bullshit ruse, and PSYOP so that in the NEXT round they can immediately deploy the military and initiate Martial Law on the populace (most of which are so brainless and stupid THEY WILL WELCOME IT!
This is not going to end, in fact they have other viruses in the pipeline that can wreak much more damage. Ole Dammegard lightonconspiracies.com (who has been documenting “false flag” events over the last 40 years), says that the next outbreak could be a virus that takes out 30% of the population!
This is a war AGAINST THE PEOPLE and the only choice is whether to submit to the demons and become enslaved and/or exterminated, or fight them! We a now living under the same tyranical madmen that the Pandavas have had to endure so this is the situation. These demons are not going to back-peddle now as this has been planned for over half a century!
The Australian Government have just ordered a massive quantity of “hospital tents” and other paraphenalia, so this martial law program is just around the corner.
Hare Krsna Prabhupadanugas,
From a Srila Prabhupada Conversation dated 1/26/77 starting at 24:26,
Prabhupāda: “Dangerous community. These scientists, the so-called, they are dangerous community. Now, (indistinct), “No, it should be operated. Then he will be cured.” And actually it is happening. In the hospitals they make all kinds of experiment, and if you say, “No, why you are doing that? The patient is suffering,” “We must execute our science. So long the life is there we shall try to save him.” They say like that. They will go on with all nonsense activity, and if you want to stop them, they will say, “No, our science has got so…” They take in writing that “Whatever we shall do, you cannot object,” Hospital. It is a place of demons. And as soon as they get a patient who will not protest, they’ll make it, they’ll make it, and operation. No medicine, simply operate.”
Gurukṛpā: “What they do now is… What they’ve been doing is they have all these pills, and they give them to people to experiment, to see what the reaction is.”
Prabhupāda: “Hmm. That is going on. Big, big patent medicine, they will explain scientifically and give to the doctors and make experiment, and they will go on making experiment. I know it. This is their business. They’ll write, they will call for the medical students—they have learned new, new words—and they’ll pay to make a literature with bombastic scientific word, and they’ll prepare literature. This literature will be distributed and give their medicine, and they may pay them for false propaganda. This is going on to introduce new patent medicine. I know that…..”
Hmmmmmm, “big big patent medicine,” “explain scientifically,” “make experiment,” “learn new words,” “bombastic scientific word,” “paid for and prepared literature,” “this literature will be distributed,” “possible incentives for false propaganda,” “go on with all nonsense activity,” and “That is their business.”
Srila Prabhupada is kindly revealing a certain class of individuals strategy or playbook. Sound familiar, doesn’t it ? It certainly does, as Srila Prabhupada sums it all up with this statement,
“Hospital, it is a place of demons.”
Srila Prabhupada, perfectly spot on as always. past, present and future.
Jaya Prabhupada !!!
jason
Thanks Sudarsana prabhu, you are a voice of wisdom in this sea of fake news.
Your friend and servant
Sundar
Saw this interesting article on truth11.com
https://newspunch.com/georgia-gov-candidate-vows-to-demolish-georgia-guidestones-and-take-down-luciferian-cabal/
This lady has some real sand!