PADA: Bhakti Caru Vyasapuja Lecture

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1. july9th_77 says:

   5. October 2010 at 10:30 am

   As I grow older I pay less attention to what men say.
   I just watch what they do.
   ~Andrew Carnegie

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2. Tamohara dasa vanaprastha says:

   5. October 2010 at 2:23 pm

   Kindly consider to post as comment on bhakticaru youtube article at Prabhupadanugas EU. Pamho. You prabhus are doing a wonderful job!

   Maharajah’s face looks dark to me, as if he has something bothering his conscience ? Let us hope this ill health passes, and that Krsna gives him peace, very very soon. We his Godbrothers and Uncles would be happy to attend to his disease and preach to him, and recommend some alleviating regime, but we are too far away, no longer preaching in our Iskcon-now-GBC-corporation, which he is so kindly handling for us all by being big guru and keeping millions of Prabhupada’s dollars in the bank, tending to all of Prabhupada’s disciples for him, (except of course the originals), and otherwise presenting his wonderful new interpretations of sastra for all of our much-needed brain cleansing. But we are too far away, unfortunately.

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3. Anirudh Das says:

   6. October 2010 at 4:21 am

   Shri Bhakti Charu Swami is the Only Guru In ISKCON who has some conscience left as he repeatedly states that Only Srila Prabhupada Can Only be our Guru Unlike Other Un-Authorised Voted Guru’s.

   If some one wants to be linked to Srila Prabhupada and the ISKCON Guru Parampara Bhakti Charu Swami Seems to be the only Guru In ISKCON who at Least In-Directly Advocates Ritvik and gives the choice that he can at the most take His Followers Only Till Srila Prabhupada. All Others Consider themselves successors of Prabhupada and Bonafide Diksha Guru’s.

   There was considerable Un-ease in his speech,as his conscience is definitely pricking him. However I do not blame him entirely. He Became a Guru only to satisfy his fellow god-brothers who forced him to join the Elite Guru Club which he did with much Reluctance It Seems!

   This Again Proves that the Entire GBC Guru Diksha System can take one only till Srila Prabhupada. After that it is between Srila Prabhupada and the Disciple and The Initiator can at best serve as a Siksha Guru Later. Even if one’s Initiator Falls The Disciple is connected to the Acharya’s and Siksha continues.

   The Summum Bonum is that ISKCON is only a Siksha Parampara. Diksha can be taken by the Disciple from any one whom he feels is Genuine and can surrender completely.

   Please Read my Experience http://zaysen.blogspot.com

   Anirudh Das
   Zaysen2001@rediffmail.com

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4. Mahasana dasa says:

   6. October 2010 at 3:37 pm

   BC says the “representative” (ritvik) is the diksa.

   He can’t even put the word “diksa” in the same sentence as “Prabhupada”.

   “Siksa, Prabhupada, Siksa, Prabhupada…

   Why doesn’t he just say what he really feels, “Bhakta Prabhupada”?

   Same change-up, different day.

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5. Tamohara dasa vanaprastha says:

   7. October 2010 at 6:53 pm

   This is a timely topic, much overdue. Those devotees who never took initation should contact local Prabhupada disciples and request them to recommend them, then perform the fire sacrifice and accept Vaisnava names as disciples of Srila Prabhupada. Then, after some years of experience as devotees and chanters, they can do likewise for future generations.

   We have this program currently at Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON web site, http://puredevoteeseva.ning.com/ , as listed and accessible via this Prabhupadanuga EU newsletter’s home front page. So far, we are finding that those who accept initiation as followers of Srila Prabhupada feel enlivenend, and become even more serious and spiritually renounced devotees, as a result. They are in no way any less than we are who took our initiations from a variety of presidents in the old days. Same.

   As devotee site-sanga administrator / net-temple president, I have myself taken on the recommendation process as a service, and certainly there is no objection of any number of qualified persons adopting this service as recommenders for initiation via that web site, or of course otherwise visit other devotee sites and temples. Any actually qualified disciple in these times and circumstances should be able to recommend, but ideally, they should be “recognized” devotee and authorities in their local sanga, thereby taking on official duties nicely, in a culturally appropriate and pukka way, as Srila Prabhupada has instructed. ie. they should be brahmanas and/or temple presidents or sannyasis or even GBC etc.

   It is clear to the new devotees that I act solely in this capacity, not as their Guru, but as bonafide recommender and well-wisher. Siksa ir provided as requested, as myself disciple of Srila Prabhupada twice initiated, since the early seventies. One knows these devotees as the recommendation will take from six months to a year, dependent upon the individual’s past experience. I am careful not to accept too many, so far four only since 2009, as I keep contact with these new devotees fairly steadily until it is seen that they do not require, or wish, by ceasing such requests, any guidance further, or otherwise maintain good Vaisnava relations throughout time.

   There are certain requirements, such as agreeing to follow the 4 regs, chant sixteen rounds. One must demonstrate that they are older devotees with experience who never got initation formally, or they must associate with us for at least one year and be attached to chanting and relatively free of impersonalism, before such requests will be considered.

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6. Vedavyasa says:

   8. October 2010 at 7:42 am

   With this kind of “representatives” who wants enemies?

   Chant All The Time:

   Jaya Sri Krishna Chaitannya
   Jaya Prabhu Nityananda
   Jaya Aduaita Chandra
   Jaya Gaura Bhakta Vrinda.

   Hare Krishna Hare Krishna
   Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
   Hare Rama Hare Rama
   Rama Rama Hare Hare.

   And Develop Your Consciousness.

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7. Sri Yamuna das says:

   8. October 2010 at 8:14 pm

   The day this one and all the others put toghether all the millions of dollars stolen fron Srila Prabhupada to distribute the wonderful original books of our beloved spiritual master going then in the front (example is better than precept) and calling back all of us to help then to distribute, may i take my time to hear to them otherways who care for what they say. Facts not words. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

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